siCiteh Posted 1 July 2015 Author Posted 1 July 2015 Protest yes, because what they have done is not in the best interest of LCFC or their fans.... it's in the best interest of KIng Power brand I agree with this. The chances are that this is a branding decision. I await the inevitable onslaught of 'oh, your just speculating'. Yes, I am speculating - and I allow myself this for two reasons: 1) I have not seen a statement suggesting NP is guilty of gross misconduct; and 2) I have, like many others on here, EARNED the right to have an opinion. Who bought shares in the club when we went bust? Who went to away games in League 1? etc A historical perspective is that the club has existed for 130 years. The reason for is success is because, despite appearances, the club exists BECAUSE OF US.
Burbage Fox Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 Grow up Pointless and Stupid don't forget how much money the owners have put in and as mentioned in other posts NP thought he was untouchable. I have it on very good authority (inside the club) that NP wanted his son reinstating and that's the reason, he thought the owners would give in to his demands and they have basically said, F off no one is bigger than the club. NP was getting to the point where his ego was getting out of control. Move on it is what it is don't sign stupid petitions
Burbage Fox Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 I seldom post on here but do follow the forum quite closely so I hope my opinion is respected. My thoughts centre around are we supporting Leicester City or Pearson FC here? I am very disappointed in the decision but we are not clear on why he was sacked, but all roads seem to be leading to the Thai incident, which clearly hit a major nerve with them and most of us fans. Let’s be honest, it was the ultimate insult to them in their own country on a “goodwill tour” and has done their family (an extremely prominent and well respected name in Thailand) no favours at all. If Pearson sided with this son and objected to the sacking then relationships would have soured and be beyond repair, hence them going their separate ways for non footballing reasons. Looking at what our owners have done just off the top of my head Re-purchased the stadium back Written off the clubs debts (their own granted) Made our academy Cat A Invested heavily in new players good and bad Shown goodwill to the fans – some on the lowest season tickets in the league, free travel, free beers, t-shirts, breakfasts Stood by Pearson on more than one occasion when fans and media were all gunning for him…. (Championship poor run, Premier league poor run, Ostrich gate, Fan gate, McArthur gate) And dare I say it.... the owners have given us all hope and optimism for the future. I have every faith in them and it will not change beyond Nigel Pearson, so I don’t see why we should protest or boycott anything. They just need to make the correct appointment to take us forward. Just read this Brilliant well said
indierich06 Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 they've released a statement! What do you expect?, a word for word transcript of all the reasons he was sacked once again dredging up mud and giving the media a field day. The statement will have been legally prepared, tells us what we need to know, spares the world the details. His sacking is personal. If he wants to air his views, he can but when you sack someone, you don't go telling the whole of the office the detailed reasons why! It all comes down to what they say - differences that affect their working relationship - that is sufficient info for us to move on! I aint happy in the slightest but life is crap sometimes and often the strongest relationships sour if too much crap is thrown at them! - I can leave this still being a fan of Pearson and still respecting the owners - Why do people insist on supporting one side or the other and not just accept that this is the way of the world sometimes! They've released a statement with some vague platitudes about working relationships. You talk about 'dredging up mud' - well now all the papers are reporting that it's due to the Thailand issue, fans are speculating about whether it's to do with the board signing players without the manager's consent. Their refusal to simply state why they terminated his contract is turning this whole thing into a sideshow, especially when the majority of fans, pundits and media think it was an undeserved sacking. Their current statement is wholly insufficient in my opinion. And for those of you who say 'trust the owners, they seem alright', blind trust without question might be good enough for you, but it's certainly not good enough for me.
fuchsntf Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 they've released a statement! What do you expect?, a word for word transcript of all the reasons he was sacked once again dredging up mud and giving the media a field day. The statement will have been legally prepared, tells us what we need to know, spares the world the details. His sacking is personal. If he wants to air his views, he can but when you sack someone, you don't go telling the whole of the office the detailed reasons why! It all comes down to what they say - differences that affect their working relationship - that is sufficient info for us to move on! I aint happy in the slightest but life is crap sometimes and often the strongest relationships sour if too much crap is thrown at them! - I can leave this still being a fan of Pearson and still respecting the owners - Why do people insist on supporting one side or the other and not just accept that this is the way of the world sometimes! Spot on..should but wont end all this knee jerk reaction posts
indierich06 Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 My thoughts centre around are we supporting Leicester City or Pearson FC here? Equally, are we supporting Leicester City or King Power FC here. Why is it not ok to question anything they do?
The Railway Man Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 The blind trust some people have in our owners is scary, you get the feeling they could kill their pets and would still be convinced it was for the right reason if they said so. Sacking a manager who took us from League 1 to 14th in the PL is a HUGE deal and a half arsed statement about working relationships having broken down isn't going to cut it with most fans, it's not like a normal role either in a business, I'd imagine the owners barely ever see Nigel apart from the odd Saturday they are over here to watch us.
Dynamogoon Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 I seldom post on here but do follow the forum quite closely so I hope my opinion is respected. My thoughts centre around are we supporting Leicester City or Pearson FC here? I am very disappointed in the decision but we are not clear on why he was sacked, but all roads seem to be leading to the Thai incident, which clearly hit a major nerve with them and most of us fans. Let’s be honest, it was the ultimate insult to them in their own country on a “goodwill tour” and has done their family (an extremely prominent and well respected name in Thailand) no favours at all. If Pearson sided with this son and objected to the sacking then relationships would have soured and be beyond repair, hence them going their separate ways for non footballing reasons. Looking at what our owners have done just off the top of my head Re-purchased the stadium back Written off the clubs debts (their own granted) Made our academy Cat A Invested heavily in new players good and bad Shown goodwill to the fans – some on the lowest season tickets in the league, free travel, free beers, t-shirts, breakfasts Stood by Pearson on more than one occasion when fans and media were all gunning for him…. (Championship poor run, Premier league poor run, Ostrich gate, Fan gate, McArthur gate) And dare I say it.... the owners have given us all hope and optimism for the future. I have every faith in them and it will not change beyond Nigel Pearson, so I don’t see why we should protest or boycott anything. They just need to make the correct appointment to take us forward. Quality post.
indierich06 Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 The blind trust some people have in our owners is scary, you get the feeling they could kill their pets and would still be convinced it was for the right reason if they said so. Sacking a manager who took us from League 1 to 14th in the PL is a HUGE deal and a half arsed statement about working relationships having broken down isn't going to cut it with most fans, it's not like a normal role either in a business, I'd imagine the owners barely ever see Nigel apart from the odd Saturday they are over here to watch us. Reminds me of Nazi Germany - "Look at all the Fuhrer has done for the economy, we were in dire straits before he came along - he's built the autobahn, got millions back to work. We shouldn't question where he's shipping all those Jews off to, I'm sure it's for a good reason!"
siCiteh Posted 1 July 2015 Author Posted 1 July 2015 Grow up Pointless and Stupid don't forget how much money the owners have put in and as mentioned in other posts NP thought he was untouchable. I have it on very good authority (inside the club) that NP wanted his son reinstating and that's the reason, he thought the owners would give in to his demands and they have basically said, F off no one is bigger than the club. NP was getting to the point where his ego was getting out of control. Move on it is what it is don't sign stupid petitions If you watched any of Pearson's interviews he was forever crediting the other staff and emphasising the role of the players in the success of the club. That does not smack of uncontrollable ego does it? He was, I am sure, a difficult character, but if he reacted badly to things at times that was because he thought he knew how to bring success to the club. I would apply the 'nobody is bigger than the club' cliche to the person who has, apparently, allowed politics, personality or branding to come before the football team The blind trust some people have in our owners is scary, you get the feeling they could kill their pets and would still be convinced it was for the right reason if they said so. Sacking a manager who took us from League 1 to 14th in the PL is a HUGE deal and a half arsed statement about working relationships having broken down isn't going to cut it with most fans, it's not like a normal role either in a business, I'd imagine the owners barely ever see Nigel apart from the odd Saturday they are over here to watch us. Amazing isn't it!
siCiteh Posted 1 July 2015 Author Posted 1 July 2015 Equally, are we supporting Leicester City or King Power FC here. Why is it not ok to question anything they do? Indeed. Precisely. IF WE MAKE THE EFFORT WE CAN HAVE AN INFLUENCE!
Bagworthblue Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 They've released a statement with some vague platitudes about working relationships. You talk about 'dredging up mud' - well now all the papers are reporting that it's due to the Thailand issue, fans are speculating about whether it's to do with the board signing players without the manager's consent. Their refusal to simply state why they terminated his contract is turning this whole thing into a sideshow, especially when the majority of fans, pundits and media think it was an undeserved sacking. Their current statement is wholly insufficient in my opinion. And for those of you who say 'trust the owners, they seem alright', blind trust without question might be good enough for you, but it's certainly not good enough for me. Look - whether it's you and your boss at work or a huge public figure, there are protocols to follow. Yes I'd love to know exactly why but for legal, respect, and personal reasons it won't be published. That's life. Can you imagine any club in the world publishing full details of the circumstances and reasons. It may not be ideal but it it the way of the world and in no way peculiar to our owners. We just have to have a bit of trust that they are doing it for what they feel are the right reasons and so far they have been nothing but professional and respectful owners - they've made mistakes but don't we all and they have had to learn like we all do in life. Ultimately they have paid financially for their errors. Personally , I like the way they step back from the public eye and let the club manage itself most of the time without overly interfering and being quoted in tabloids every week! sorry - just to add - it isn't blind trust - it is considered and reasoned trust based on my perception of how they have handled our club since their tenure. This to me is a 'hmm moment' - I will use this as circumstantial evidence in the future as I continue to judge their actions but so far they have done nothing that screams of anything other than 'good intentions'
Bagworthblue Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 Indeed. Precisely. IF WE MAKE THE EFFORT WE CAN HAVE AN INFLUENCE! fook me are you some presidential candidate or been watching too much Braveheart! if you make the effort you can influence..... what? More disruption? more chaos? what can you influence - you don't even have much support on here! if you are unhappy, write a bleeding letter! but do me a favour - be constructive!!
Bagworthblue Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 The blind trust some people have in our owners is scary, you get the feeling they could kill their pets and would still be convinced it was for the right reason if they said so. Sacking a manager who took us from League 1 to 14th in the PL is a HUGE deal and a half arsed statement about working relationships having broken down isn't going to cut it with most fans, it's not like a normal role either in a business, I'd imagine the owners barely ever see Nigel apart from the odd Saturday they are over here to watch us. I think you underestimate those who disagree with you. There is no blind trust, there is history sufficient to build an argument not to do something as stupid and self destructive as well as pointless as to protest. I am not bloody happy at all!! But I don't know enough to throw blame in any direction and I am old enough, ugly enough (deffo) and wise enough to know the statement we have got is the way of the world and we aint ever gonna know the exact details from the club who are acting as any other club would with their statement. Why thrown blame - sometimes shit happens and there is no way forwards other than to part company
David Hankey Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 To those who want to, protest all you like, but don't do it in my name. Many don't understand the religious beliefs of the Thai family and the disrespect and disrepute the actions of these junior members have brought to the Club. It cannot be brushed under the carpet it is a far more serious situation than many believe. As owners of the Club they have a right to do what they have done as it does seem it is nothing to do with what has happened on the field but more off it.
siCiteh Posted 1 July 2015 Author Posted 1 July 2015 fook me are you some presidential candidate or been watching too much Braveheart! if you make the effort you can influence..... what? More disruption? more chaos? what can you influence - you don't even have much support on here! if you are unhappy, write a bleeding letter! but do me a favour - be constructive!! We can influence how the club is run so that personality or short term PR goals are not put ahead of the long term success of our club. Personally, I see it as constructive and healthy if a clubs' fans hold the owners to account when they make dubious decisions. No one is talking about a long term boycott of the club, or hounding out the owners - but making a noise when bad calls are bad is likely a good thing.
SpacedX Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 Reminds me of Nazi Germany - "Look at all the Fuhrer has done for the economy, we were in dire straits before he came along - he's built the autobahn, got millions back to work. We shouldn't question where he's shipping all those Jews off to, I'm sure it's for a good reason!" King Power - comparable to the rise of the Third Reich from the ruins of the Weimar Rebublic summoning the Holocaust as an analogy. Genius.Only possible on F.T. I'd say the Life of Brian parallel - 'what have the Romans ever done for us?' line is perhaps more applicable.
Bagworthblue Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 To those who want to, protest all you like, but don't do it in my name. Many don't understand the religious beliefs of the Thai family and the disrespect and disrepute the actions of these junior members have brought to the Club. It cannot be brushed under the carpet it is a far more serious situation than many believe. As owners of the Club they have a right to do what they have done as it does seem it is nothing to do with what has happened on the field but more off it. Agree not in my name please
siCiteh Posted 1 July 2015 Author Posted 1 July 2015 To those who want to, protest all you like, but don't do it in my name. Many don't understand the religious beliefs of the Thai family and the disrespect and disrepute the actions of these junior members have brought to the Club. It cannot be brushed under the carpet it is a far more serious situation than many believe. As owners of the Club they have a right to do what they have done as it does seem it is nothing to do with what has happened on the field but more off it. Quite correct. And as fans we have the right to put pressure on to make sure that better decisions are made in future. I would not protest in your name
indierich06 Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 King Power - comparable to the rise of the Third Reich from the ruins of the Weimar Rebublic summoning the Holocaust as an analogy. Genius.Only possible on F.T. I'd say the Life of Brian parallel - 'what have the Romans ever done for us?' line is perhaps more applicable. An analogy is an analogy is an analogy.
red fox Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 Sack the fvcking board! Bunch of idiots have no idea how to run a football club. Nigel Pearson was the best thing to happen to the club since Martin O'Neill. TOP OUT!
Bagworthblue Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 We can influence how the club is run so that personality or short term PR goals are not put ahead of the long term success of our club. Personally, I see it as constructive and healthy if a clubs' fans hold the owners to account when they make dubious decisions. No one is talking about a long term boycott of the club, or hounding out the owners - but making a noise when bad calls are bad is likely a good thing. as long as it is a majority, considered, non knee jerk opinion. But why protest when you can ask constructively. 1 week ago the owners were godlike to most, if that is the case, people had forgiven their previous mistakes etc and seen what a good job they are doing. 1 week later, not much has changed apart from a high profile decision that a lot of us are pissed off about but many of us believe must have been done with the right intentions. I don't for one minute think they wanted to sack him, I think, like they say, their differences have become too great! They have earned my trust so far - this may change in future but right now I believe in them - if you want to know more, write to the club and ask constructive questions but what you are doing by starting this thread and by using statement such as WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE is trying to drum up support for a protest! That is not constructive, will not bring about the outcome you want, and will no doubt further damage both the spirit within the club and the reputation of the club
SpacedX Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 An analogy is an analogy is an analogy. "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches" Godwins Law. Congratulations.
Viva Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 The blind trust some people have in our owners is scary, you get the feeling they could kill their pets and would still be convinced it was for the right reason if they said so. Sacking a manager who took us from League 1 to 14th in the PL is a HUGE deal and a half arsed statement about working relationships having broken down isn't going to cut it with most fans, it's not like a normal role either in a business, I'd imagine the owners barely ever see Nigel apart from the odd Saturday they are over here to watch us. While the timing of the whole thing is surprising and a shock to everyone, it's not the most unusual decision anyone has every seen! -In March nobody would have batted an eyelid if he was sacked, as we were cut adrift in the table and probably the most under performing team in the league based on the fact we were so far behind the teams we finished well above last year. -Pearson was the bookies favourite to be first manager out. They knew that he was on his last life after all of the other off the field incidents last season. I will add though that it was a shock and I didn't want him to go, but sometimes these things happen. I'd rather it was now and not a month into the new season.
Mark_w Posted 1 July 2015 Posted 1 July 2015 To those who want to, protest all you like, but don't do it in my name. Many don't understand the religious beliefs of the Thai family and the disrespect and disrepute the actions of these junior members have brought to the Club. It cannot be brushed under the carpet it is a far more serious situation than many believe. As owners of the Club they have a right to do what they have done as it does seem it is nothing to do with what has happened on the field but more off it. I'm struggling to see how this is relevant. We're discussing the decision to sack Nigel Pearson, not those three twats.
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