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2016/17 Football League Championship

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Quite impressed with Wolves hiring Porto's former manager, considering their poor season previously.

 

However, managerial changes - in conjunction with an owner reportedly buying players that only he only wants for the club (Paul Lambert expressed frustration in not being the final decision-maker in any transfer dealings) - doesn't look like that the club has any strong foundation in place and plans to gradually succeed and chops and changes when there's a short-term crisis in terms of on-the-pitch results.

 

Hence feels as if they're are starting to be like Forest and are drifting away slightly from where they should be.

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Our Chinese owners (Fosun) are the richest owners in English football outside of the Sheikhs at Man City, worth something like £80 Billion. They aren't here to mess around. They are investors in Jorge Mendes' company so that is why he is on board advising them and providing them with players. It's not the owner buying them, but Mendes bringing them in, and they trust him. The manager still buys players too, and has the final say on who plays.

 

You have to remember that Fosun took over the club last year with about a week to go until the start of the season. When they sacked Jackett they were turned down by Marco Silva for a Premier League job, and Loptegui who took the Spain job. They made a mistake by hiring Walter Zenga, but he was only given a one year deal to take them to the start of this season and was only ever intended to give the owners time to bring their own man in. However when it became clear he wasn't up to the job they had to get rid of him and hire a safe pair of hands to make sure we didn't get relegated, which was Lambert. Now they have their first chance at bringing in their own manager with an entire pre-season and transfer window to shape his own team. This will tell us more than any of last season did.

 

Nuno Santo is also good friends and a client of Mendes, so I'm hopeful of some decent players. Santo also managed Valencia to 4th before the Porto job, which isn't bad going considering what state their club has been in recently.

 

It's as good as an appointment as we could hope for really, considering where we finished in the league.

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8 hours ago, The Bear said:

Our Chinese owners (Fosun) are the richest owners in English football outside of the Sheikhs at Man City, worth something like £80 Billion. They aren't here to mess around. They are investors in Jorge Mendes' company so that is why he is on board advising them and providing them with players. It's not the owner buying them, but Mendes bringing them in, and they trust him. The manager still buys players too, and has the final say on who plays.

 

You have to remember that Fosun took over the club last year with about a week to go until the start of the season. When they sacked Jackett they were turned down by Marco Silva for a Premier League job, and Loptegui who took the Spain job. They made a mistake by hiring Walter Zenga, but he was only given a one year deal to take them to the start of this season and was only ever intended to give the owners time to bring their own man in. However when it became clear he wasn't up to the job they had to get rid of him and hire a safe pair of hands to make sure we didn't get relegated, which was Lambert. Now they have their first chance at bringing in their own manager with an entire pre-season and transfer window to shape his own team. This will tell us more than any of last season did.

 

Nuno Santo is also good friends and a client of Mendes, so I'm hopeful of some decent players. Santo also managed Valencia to 4th before the Porto job, which isn't bad going considering what state their club has been in recently.

 

It's as good as an appointment as we could hope for really, considering where we finished in the league.

Nigel Pearson would have been a better appointment.

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1 hour ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

Nigel Pearson would have been a better appointment.

 

Thing is his disaster at Derby has, rightly or wrongly, drastically lowered his stock.

 

Wherever he goes, he'll need time and good communication with the owners to allow his system to be put in place, and very few owners would be willing to provide that.

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2 hours ago, Finnaldo said:

 

Thing is his disaster at Derby has, rightly or wrongly, drastically lowered his stock.

 

Wherever he goes, he'll need time and good communication with the owners to allow his system to be put in place, and very few owners would be willing to provide that.

I hope it hasn't. 

 

Derby have sacked three/four good managers over the past few seasons. Clement, the man that had them about 4th when he was sacked for not playing "The Derby way", has just somehow kept a team in the Premier League when they were certs to drop. 

 

I wouldn't personally read into Pearson's time at Derby too much.

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Interesting discussion RE: The playoff final. Don't you think it's indicative of most finals these days? The prestige and consequences riding on most finals now means they're largely rubbish. UCL Final, World Cup Final, Euros, Playoff final.

 

It was a dreadful final but have there been many absolute humdingers in recent years? Look at the PO finals of the last 10 years... 1-0, 1-0, 1-0, 3-2, 4-2, 2-1, 1-0, 1-0, 2-0, 1-0.

 

Being a bit harsh here but those Huddersfield players running around celebrating their promotion... how many of them will play next season, or will be in the line up come May 2018? A lot of these players have just pushed themselves closer to an exit from the club because they won't be good enough. I always find it slightly ironic. (It's still a fantastic achievement, and the bonuses they likely will have won't hurt either.)

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1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

I hope it hasn't. 

 

Derby have sacked three/four good managers over the past few seasons. Clement, the man that had them about 4th when he was sacked for not playing "The Derby way", has just somehow kept a team in the Premier League when they were certs to drop. 

 

I wouldn't personally read into Pearson's time at Derby too much.

 

Trust me I feel the same, loved him for his achievements here and always rated him but it just looked dreadful. That Mel Morris bloke is obviously extremely trigger-happy and he obviously pulled it too soon but being sacked whilst rock bottom still looks dreadful on Pearson's part. 

 

You'd hope a more progressive and visionary owner like our's would realise his talent and utilise him but they are few and far between, especially with the farce that is the FA's fit and proper ownership test!

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