Katy Posted 29 September 2005 Posted 29 September 2005 i don't understand how this thread is about a HOLDING midfielder yet the arguments against joey are for his telling passes/shooting/and bursts forwards is a holding midfielder supposed to hold the ball? when you have a holding midfielder, the telling passes/shooting should come from the player partnering him in the centre of the pitch I dont believe this thread has turned into another 5 page arguement! Then again I can............
lush Posted 29 September 2005 Author Posted 29 September 2005 He's better than Stearman, but Stearman is a better player? If anything, Stearman would be better holding player than Maybury as he's naturally talented and has the attributes to play there - better than Joey? Possibly, but we don't know that until he's played there. Banking and Football are two very different things and cannot be compared. And I see you refuse to address my last two points - Losing the plot, Lush? Theeeeres a circus in the town, in the town...i dont think stearman has enough leadership qualities like maybury does. Hell, even joey has more. Tuff one, joey or stearman for HR, dont know. Ok, when did someone realise dubs could play in defence, when he`d played up front all his carreer? Your 2nd point didnt make any sense, try harder? Your last point has been well and trully road tested and its just you calling me a liar
lush Posted 29 September 2005 Author Posted 29 September 2005 I dont believe this thread has turned into another 5 page arguement! Then again I can............ Good call, this is NOT the place to debate/argue about city
Scow Posted 29 September 2005 Posted 29 September 2005 Theeeeres a circus in the town, in the town...i dont think stearman has enough leadership qualities like maybury does. Hell, even joey has more. Tuff one, joey or stearman for HR, dont know. Ok, when did someone realise dubs could play in defence, when he`d played up front all his carreer? Your 2nd point didnt make any sense, try harder? Your last point has been well and trully road tested and its just you calling me a liar Lush, you're talking drivel now. Leadership is not a prerequisite to play a holding role, when will you realise that? Dublin actually started his career in defence. My second point didn't make any sense? Do you actually enjoy looking stupid?
lush Posted 29 September 2005 Author Posted 29 September 2005 Leadership is not a prerequisite to play a holding role, when will you realise that? Dublin actually started his career in defence. i never said it was. Ok, so who KNEW he could play up front?
AyewJoking Posted 29 September 2005 Posted 29 September 2005 I would try Maybury in that position because he would be more disciplined in defending than Gudjohnson and it would allow Stearman to play right back and Sheehan to play left.
Scow Posted 29 September 2005 Posted 29 September 2005 i never said it was. Ok, so who KNEW he could play up front? Lush, look back on your posts and you'll see that you keep banging on about the holding midfield role requiring leadership. As for Dublin playing upfront - I think it was Cambridge manager John Beck who realised that. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF
lush Posted 29 September 2005 Author Posted 29 September 2005 I would try Maybury in that position because he would be more disciplined in defending than Gudjohnson and it would allow Stearman to play right back and Sheehan to play left. Spot on. If theres one thing we lack, is defending the defense. We did sort that start of season, as the goalie gave the ball to a CD and we played our way forward. Due to the lack of defensive confidence, were starting to hoof the ball from the back. I say, we need a confidence player, a player with good ball control, that will take it from the defenders, look up, see whos available, and distribute it in an attacking desire. With joey (bless him) he just doesnt have that in his make up, yes he`ll pass it sideways forever and a day, but its like "passing" the buck, here you are, you create something with it. NO, we need both CM`s capable of thinking with desire to break the opposition down, by going FORWARD. When we have the ball, our CM`s dont need to be defensive.
lush Posted 29 September 2005 Author Posted 29 September 2005 Lush, look back on your posts and you'll see that you keep banging on about the holding midfield role requiring leadership. As for Dublin playing upfront - I think it was Cambridge manager John Beck who realised that. thats true... So how did john beck KNOW dubs could play up front?
Katy Posted 29 September 2005 Posted 29 September 2005 Good call, this is NOT the place to debate/argue about city Theres debate and then theres down right pointlessness. Why cant you read whats in front of you? why cant you see when youve lost? It just gets a bit tedious for all us innocent bystanders after a while you know, have a bit of consideration!
Scow Posted 29 September 2005 Posted 29 September 2005 Phew, I was getting fed up arguing with an idiot.
Ric Flair Posted 30 September 2005 Posted 30 September 2005 Re-opening topic as it's friday afternoon and time is dragging. Get yer gloves on Lush, i'm gonna batter ya!!!
lush Posted 30 September 2005 Author Posted 30 September 2005 Re-opening topic as it's friday afternoon and time is dragging. Get yer gloves on Lush, i'm gonna batter ya!!! your cool. Darn it, i only have one hour before work calls. Why is it ok for scowy to abuse me "idiot"
lush Posted 30 September 2005 Author Posted 30 September 2005 And why are people bothered if a topic is boring, dont take part??? Ignore it, i do with 80% of threads, and maybury is much better than joey ever was
lush Posted 30 September 2005 Author Posted 30 September 2005 Another thing, anyone here brave enough to admit im right, and wana change their vote?
Ric Flair Posted 30 September 2005 Posted 30 September 2005 To be honest Lush, I think your argument would hold more substance if Maybury was playing well this season and Gudjonsson wasn't. The fact that Maybury is out of sorts and Joey has improved his game enormously must be an indication that on current form alone you'd not want Maybury in MIDFIELD.
davieG Posted 30 September 2005 Posted 30 September 2005 And why are people bothered if a topic is boring, dont take part??? Ignore it, i do with 80% of threads, and maybury is much better than joey ever was Well I keep dipping in to see if anyone has anything different to say, a different perspective, some facts but it's all the same stuff regurgutated. Most of the 117 replies haven't been needed because all you wanted to know and I guess that's why you put up a poll has been answered by the poll. I guess your problem is you've been outnumbered and are finding it difficult to accept somewahat like a failed politician.
lush Posted 30 September 2005 Author Posted 30 September 2005 To be honest Lush, I think your argument would hold more substance if Maybury was playing well this season and Gudjonsson wasn't. The fact that Maybury is out of sorts and Joey has improved his game enormously must be an indication that on current form alone you'd not want Maybury in MIDFIELD. You know what Ric, that was going through my mind all through this debate, and i couldnt argue out of it, and its taken this long for someone to mention it, top man. SO, the question begs: If both players were having the same season of quality, who would be most suited to play the HR? ...here we gooooo
davieG Posted 30 September 2005 Posted 30 September 2005 You know what Ric, that was going through my mind all through this debate, and i couldnt argue out of it, and its taken this long for someone to mention it, top man. SO, the question begs: If both players were having the same season of quality, who would be most suited to play the HR? ...here we gooooo Bloody hell how hypothetical do you want to go?
lush Posted 30 September 2005 Author Posted 30 September 2005 Well I keep dipping in to see if anyone has anything different to say, a different perspective, some facts but it's all the same stuff regurgutated. Most of the 117 replies haven't been needed because all you wanted to know and I guess that's why you put up a poll has been answered by the poll. I guess your problem is you've been outnumbered and are finding it difficult to accept somewahat like a failed politician. So because like now we discuss the issue and someone doesnt like it, its deletable? I could name 50 threads on this website that are thrillingly boring and repetative nonsense, but i choose to allow my fellow humans the right of not being interupted if thats what makes them tick-tock. 9 people think maybury has more ability than joey to play the HR, are they completely wrong?
lush Posted 30 September 2005 Author Posted 30 September 2005 Bloody hell how hypothetical do you want to go? I asked that because people think joey is playing better, and they wont change their mind, i think maybury is playing better than joey even now, and in just 2 games, hell 1 game it can all change. Joey is a stagenated individual for me, i dont little faith in him improving much, whereas we know maybury can be much better than he currently is.
Ric Flair Posted 30 September 2005 Posted 30 September 2005 You know what Ric, that was going through my mind all through this debate, and i couldnt argue out of it, and its taken this long for someone to mention it, top man. SO, the question begs: If both players were having the same season of quality, who would be most suited to play the HR? ...here we gooooo Last season I thought Maybury was one of the best full-backs i'd seen at City for many years. Everything about his game was good from his tackling, to his distribution, to his composure. This season he's started off at left back and looked rusty and has since swapped to right back and hasn't looked a patch on last season. Whether he's unhappy here i'm not sure, but he doesn't seem the sort to be like that. After all he has Craig Levein for re-vitalising his career up at Hearts and I doubt he'd have 11 caps for Ireland if Craig hadn't come calling. I've never even thought about Maybury being central midfield material and couldn't comment whether he'd be any good there until I saw him play there. There are many arguments to back up why he wouldn't be perfect for the midfield role and one being that if he was that perfect for it, surely one of the 3 or 4 managers who have managed him would have tried him there. There's one flaw to Maybury's game and i've seen it happen on quite a few occasions and he often let's people go by him and turn him, an example of that was when Charlton equalised in the cup game. Maybury let their winger turn him and he tried to swivel round to block him but it was too late. You can't let midfielders go by you in the centre otherwise it's curtains for you.
davieG Posted 30 September 2005 Posted 30 September 2005 So because like now we discuss the issue and someone doesnt like it, its deletable? I could name 50 threads on this website that are thrillingly boring and repetative nonsense, but i choose to allow my fellow humans the right of not being interupted if thats what makes them tick-tock. 9 people think maybury has more ability than joey to play the HR, are they completely wrong? Why do you always try to twist what people say, when has boring EVER meant deleting, where do you get your thoughts from. You must either have one of those giant McCain chips on your shoulder or a persecution complex of mammoth proportions. Just as your entitled to your view I'm entitled to label a thread as boring, perhaps I just hit a nerve.
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