Webbo Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 Just now, toddybad said: Far more people at the bottom with be paying more in tax. Not if they're not working.
Guest Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 Funny how the self employed always think the ceo should keep all the money and not those doing the graft.
Guest Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 2 minutes ago, Webbo said: Not if they're not working. There didn't used to be a minimum wage. Tories said jobs would be lost. It got put in place. I believe you said recently that there are now more people employed in the uk than ever before and unemployment is fantastically low?
Webbo Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 4 minutes ago, toddybad said: Funny how the self employed always think the ceo should keep all the money and not those doing the graft. Those doing the graft can always start their own company if they think it's that easy. 2
Guest MattP Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 7 minutes ago, toddybad said: Far more people at the bottom with be paying more in tax. Why do you always link everything to some far off country with nothing to do with britain? Because no first world country has tried this sort of stuff, I wish they had. We have to go to Venezuela and Zimbabwe etc as they are the only ones to try things people like McDonnell suggests.
Guest Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 3 minutes ago, MattP said: Because no first world country has tried this sort of stuff, I wish they had. We have to go to Venezuela and Zimbabwe etc as they are the only ones to try things people like McDonnell suggests. Portugal
Guest Kopfkino Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 3 minutes ago, toddybad said: Portugal Do you actually know anything about Portugal?
Guest Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 Just now, KingGTF said: Do you actually know anything about Portugal? About as much as matt knows about venezuela
Guest MattP Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 9 minutes ago, toddybad said: Portugal Portugal has a minimum wage of around 650 Euros which is less than Greece.
Strokes Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, toddybad said: Funny how the self employed always think the ceo should keep all the money and not those doing the graft. Funny how the employed think that they should get paid parity with those with more responsibility. The only way to get wages up at the bottom end is stem the supply and force companies to invest in current staff, thus increasing productivity. It's pretty basic. Edited 25 August 2017 by Strokes
Carl the Llama Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Strokes said: Funny how the employed think that they should get paid parity with those with more responsibility. The only way to get wages up at the bottom end is stem the supply and force companies to invest in current staff, thus increasing productivity. It's pretty basic. There's that parity word again. Why do people keep arguing against unreasonable demands that nobody's made as though it's a defence against offering reasonable wages to the lowest paid? Edited 25 August 2017 by Carl the Llama
Strokes Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said: There's that parity word again. Why do people keep arguing against unreasonable demands that nobody's made as though it's a defence against offering reasonable wages to the lowest paid? It was a flippant remark to his self employed dig. Which was also flippant. I'm all for greater wages at the lower end and I do agree that if people won't see and address capitalisms failures in pay disparity, that ultimately it will drive the suffers off it to a new concept. In the same way brexit happened. I just disagree with the way you think we should tackle it, as I don't think it will actually lift these people out of the so called poverty. Edited 25 August 2017 by Strokes
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 25 August 2017 Author Posted 25 August 2017 Witihn this wage debate, one key thing hasn't been mentioned and that is this countries poor productivity output. If productivity was better, this would create capacity for wage increases / price reductions or a little of both. Sadly, what this country has become adept at, for no real benefit, is building cottage industry service providers - all these little companies that sit within bigger companies doing certain sections of admin. This is certainly apparent witihn the retail sector, where getting a product from production to shelf seems to go through so many hands and companies, it's a wonder how all parties make a sufficient profit. It also goes someway to explaining why no-one tends to know what the **** is going on in certain stores!
Webbo Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 10 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: This is certainly apparent witihn the retail sector, where getting a product from production to shelf seems to go through so many hands and companies, it's a wonder how all parties make a sufficient profit. It also goes someway to explaining why no-one tends to know what the **** is going on in certain stores! As I've mentioned previously my wife works at Asda. The management there is shocking.
HoustonFox Posted 25 August 2017 Posted 25 August 2017 Big debate about minimum wage here in the US, amongst other things... Ferderal minimum is $7.25/hour which is not a lot at all. Barely enough to live on here to be honest - remember, people are responsible for their own healthcare, pension etc... Some cities raised it to $10/hour but then are now reversing it with no recourse. Bring into the complexity of tipping, where there is a "protection" of $7.25/hr but then all sorts of credits and offsets, it gets pretty crazy. US is very complex when it comes to taxes anyway as you have Federal, then State, then County/Parish and then City. That doesn't just apply to property tax but sales taxes, income taxes etc... You could actually go from one part of the same city and buy the same product and pay different amount of tax...
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Guest Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 Although i think this is a good idea, I'm not sure its good for labour's electoral hopes tbh Labour makes dramatic Brexit shift and backs single market membership https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/aug/26/labour-calls-for-lengthy-transitional-period-post-brexit?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Guest Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 Should the rich be taxed more? A new paper shows unequivocally yes https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/aug/27/should-the-rich-be-taxed-more-a-new-paper-shows-unequivocally-yes?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Webbo Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 22 minutes ago, toddybad said: Although i think this is a good idea, I'm not sure its good for labour's electoral hopes tbh Labour makes dramatic Brexit shift and backs single market membership https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/aug/26/labour-calls-for-lengthy-transitional-period-post-brexit?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Don't worry, they'll have another position in a fortnight. 1
Sharpe's Fox Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 wonder how it feels for conservatives to get politically outmanoeuvred by marxists. Politics is hilarious these days
Webbo Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 4 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: wonder how it feels for conservatives to get politically outmanoeuvred by marxists. Politics is hilarious these days I'll let you know when it happens.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 2 minutes ago, Webbo said: I'll let you know when it happens. Thinks it's about now, bud. I'm not talking soft left types I'm talking Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and Chris Williamson here, literal Marxists are ahead of you lot right now.
Webbo Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 Just now, Sharpe's Fox said: Thinks it's about now, bud. I'm not talking soft left types I'm talking Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and Chris Williamson here, literal Marxists are ahead of you lot right now. What were the polls saying when the election was called?
Sharpe's Fox Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 1 minute ago, Webbo said: What were the polls saying when the election was called? The ones who called the turnout right were right. Unless you expect more pensioners to turn out instead of drop dead I'd pipe down.
Webbo Posted 27 August 2017 Posted 27 August 2017 2 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: The ones who called the turnout right were right. Unless you expect more pensioners to turn out instead of drop dead I'd pipe down. I said when the election was called? The tories had a far bigger lead. Polls at this stage are pointless.
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