What exactly do the owners want?

[Bayfox]

Thai prostitutes and scandal.

[4everfox]

1 hour ago, Line-X said:

So for you the entire history of the game can be traced back to when you were conscious of it? 

 

Interesting, someone informed me yesterday that England actually won a World Cup in '66. I had no idea whatsoever, but then in my defence, I hadn't been born then. 

"you have a very, very short memory". That is the exact quote to which I was responding, MEMORY being the key word there. I'll give you a few hours to let that sink in, you clearly need it. 

[SpacedX]

9 minutes ago, 4everfox said:

"you have a very, very short memory". That is the exact quote to which I was responding, MEMORY being the key word there. I'll give you a few hours to let that sink in, you clearly need it. 

What's that? I can't remember what we were talking about.

[SpacedX]

11 minutes ago, 4everfox said:

"you have a very, very short memory". That is the exact quote to which I was responding, MEMORY being the key word there. I'll give you a few hours to let that sink in, you clearly need it. 

Oh yeah that was it.

 

That doesn't mean that your awareness of the game should be solely confined to your personal memories. If you insist upon making such a flagrantly ill informed statement then perhaps consider that memory also applies to retention of facts about the history of the game which isn't defined by the date that 4everfox became aware of it. 

[gerrytaggart]

what exactly do the owners want?

 

 

 

 

 

 

your money.

[norwichfox]

3 hours ago, 4everfox said:

Probably because I was about four years old before then. 

ffs, didn't your parents ever speak to you....

[Vocey]

Interesting that the club is voting for a change in money distribution, this implies they are confident we will finish top 8 year on year. 

 

I think they want us to be a consistent top 6 side, unfortunately I don’t feel they have any clue of what it takes to get us there.

[Rogstanley]

Just now, Vocey said:

Interesting that the club is voting for a change in money distribution, this implies they are confident we will finish top 8 year on year. 

 

I think they want us to be a consistent top 6 side, unfortunately I don’t feel they have any clue of what it takes to get us there.

Who does? Only Man City have broken into the top 6 in recent memory and they did it as a club already bigger than us with a vastly larger war chest. Other than that not a single club has broken into the top six and stayed there for decades. If you or anyone else on here has a fool proof way of doing it then get your CV out because your knowledge would be in very high demand.

[Old Fox]

2 minutes ago, Vocey said:

Interesting that the club is voting for a change in money distribution, this implies they are confident we will finish top 8 year on year. 

 

I think they want us to be a consistent top 6 side, unfortunately I don’t feel they have any clue of what it takes to get us there.

I think they have a better clue than most seeing as we won the bloody thing two years ago.....to be a consistent Top 8 side takes some inspired management, recruitment and board direction. They have made some mistakes which they do recognise hence they rarely do not act if they believe it is for the better in the medium term - I would suggest that taking a club from where we were to overnight being a worldwide name with the increase in turnover would be beyond most business leaders to get it all right.......I understand that they are even more determined to get us at the top end and they believe it possible with investment.......never a dull moment and the best owners we could have so enjoy the ride!!

[Vocey]

Just now, Rogstanley said:

Who does? Only Man City have broken into the top 6 in recent memory and they did it as a club already bigger than us with a vastly larger war chest. Other than that not a single club has broken into the top six and stayed there for decades. If you or anyone else on here has a fool proof way of doing it then get your CV out because your knowledge would be in very high demand.

Your right, it’s very difficult to do without a huge budget, you can only really look at Spurs and Man City as doing it, and Spurs have taken years to do it. My point is that I think the owners have unnecessararily high expectations for the time being. 

[4everfox]

15 minutes ago, Line-X said:

Oh yeah that was it.

 

That doesn't mean that your awareness of the game should be solely confined to your personal memories. If you insist upon making such a flagrantly ill informed statement then perhaps consider that memory also applies to retention of facts about the history of the game which isn't defined by the date that 4everfox became aware of it. 

Stop being a smart arse, everything I originally posted was spot on regarding Chelsea. 

 

96/97 - 6th

97/98 - 4th

98/99 - 3rd

99/00 - 5th

00/01 - 6th

01/02 - 6th

 

Quite clearly I was correct. You're just trying to belittle me because I selectively ignored the seasons prior (on purpose, not for the reasons you are assuming)  to this because my knowledge on it isn't as crisp as the seasons mentioned. Probably your way of making yourself feel better because your grandad used to take you up into the loft when you were younger or something. 

[4everfox]

1 hour ago, norwichfox said:

ffs, didn't your parents ever speak to you....

Didn't your parents ever use protection? Obviously not. Shame. 

[SpacedX]

2 hours ago, 4everfox said:

Stop being a smart arse, everything I originally posted was spot on regarding Chelsea. 

 

96/97 - 6th

97/98 - 4th

98/99 - 3rd

99/00 - 5th

00/01 - 6th

01/02 - 6th

 

Quite clearly I was correct. You're just trying to belittle me because I selectively ignored the seasons prior (on purpose, not for the reasons you are assuming)  to this because my knowledge on it isn't as crisp as the seasons mentioned. 

You're a tad sensitive aren't you? I'm not suggesting that you weren't correct or accurate in the period that you stated, but as someone else pointed out to you - it doesn't tell the entire story. And actually, in response to the suggestion that you have a poor memory, you stated that you were only four as opposed to purposely "selectively ignoring" information...confirmation bias then. I'd suggest that you grow up, grow a skin and stop acting like a petulant four year old 

 

2 hours ago, 4everfox said:

Probably your way of making yourself feel better because your grandad used to take you up into the loft when you were younger or something. 

Indeed he did. I'm from London and he supported QPR. 

[kushiro]

Very interesting piece from the Japan Times:

 

Funeral for beloved Thai king to be an intensely somber, highly controlled ceremony

 

 

Holding a portrait of late King Bhumibol Adulyadej, a Thai mourner stands in a line to take part in the Royal Cremation ceremony in Bangkok on Wednesday. | AP

 

BANGKOK – The exactingly planned five-day funeral for Thailand’s King Bhumibol Adulyadej will be governed by strict protocols for how the public and media conduct themselves that are as much about honoring the late king as they are about controlling a delicate political moment.The detailed prescriptions for appearance and behavior show a particular concern for what images of Thailand and its royals are circulated during and after the elaborate ceremonies, which include Bhumibol’s cremation on Thursday evening.

 

Thais are known for a highly emotional adulation of Bhumibol, which palace officials assiduously cultivated over his 70-year reign, but the funeral will be an intensely somber event, intentionally drained of possibilities for spontaneity.Only state-controlled TV can provide a live broadcast, and police have prohibited screen-printing of pictures of Bhumibol and his magnificent golden-colored cremation pyre on T-shirts and the like.The crowds of mourners who’ll squeeze into Bangkok’s historic royal quarter starting Wednesday will be a sea of black attire. They will be permitted to prostrate in silence when the royal procession passes, but must not shout “Long Live the King” or hold up cellphones to take selfies with the procession in the background.

 

Besides considerable security, an army of volunteers will be on hand to police behavior.“If people act inappropriately, volunteers must be psychological and speak to them with soft voices to avoid violence,” said Sansern Kaewkumnerd, a spokesman for the military government in power since a 2014 coup.Because of Thailand’s tropical climate, umbrellas, hats and sunglasses will be allowed, but they must be black or similarly muted and taken off to show respect to the royal procession when it passes.“The bigger issue going on here is that spontaneity means lack of control, and if there is anything the current regime wants to avoid, it is disorder or any evidence that they are not in control,” said Tamara Loos, a professor of Southeast Asian studies at Cornell University.

 

The Oct. 13, 2016, death of the 88-year-old Bhumibol, known as Rama IX as the Chakri dynasty’s ninth monarch, sparked a national outpouring of grief and a year of mourning.

The affection he inspired was in part the result of decades of work by palace officials to rebuild the prestige of the monarchy, which had lost much of its influence after a 1932 coup ended centuries of absolute rule by Thai kings.As a unifying symbol, Bhumibol earned genuine respect in a nation frequently rocked by political turmoil. But even the current military government’s aggressive use of a draconian lese majeste law and online censorship has been unable to paper over divisions that find an outlet in criticism of the monarchy as the apex of a society in which the army has ousted elected governments twice since 2006.

 

“This long five-day ceremony is the precise moment when authorities would want to control any negative responses to King Bhumibol and the memory of his reign,” said Loos.

“I could see real violence happening if there were protests against the monarchy during this moment because people are emotional,” she said. “And nothing could be worse for Thailand now than to have bloodshed during the funeral ceremony.”Thailand’s army on Tuesday detained a political activist, Ekachai Hongkangwan, after he wrote on Facebook that he planned to wear a red shirt on Thursday, a color-coded nod to supporters of the democratically elected governments ousted in the 2006 and 2014 army coups.

Requirements for journalists, and especially photographers, are particularly precise and outlined in a three-page document that includes a full page of additional regulations set by special branch police.

 

Formal dress requirements that are typical for close quarters contact with members of the royal family include a prohibition on earrings, beards or mustaches for men, and unnatural hair coloring for women.Photographers must bow or curtsy before and after taking photographs of the new king and other members of the royal family and cannot approach closer than 5 meters (yards), or 10 meters if using a flash that must not exceed 1,500 watts.Journalists are confined to specific stands, and the special branch police’s instructions for how they take photographs are designed to preserve regal dignity: no photographs of royals while they are ascending or descending between levels, such as while walking on stairs; no photographs directly in the face while they are seated; no photographs of royals eating.

 

Michael Montesano, coordinator of the Thailand Studies Program at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies in Singapore, said the ceremonies are a goodbye to Bhumibol but also show an attempt to set the tone for the reign of his son, King Maha Vajiralongkorn Bodindradebayavarangkun, who has had far less contact with ordinary Thais than his father.Montesano said Bhumibol’s high-profile trips during his reign to the Thai countryside and efforts to improve the living standards of villagers earned him goodwill and became elevated to mythic levels through palace efforts to restore a sense of mystery to the monarchy.“These two things go hand in hand,” he said. “One of the questions is where this notion of a sacred monarchy, a monarchy with some mystery to it, and all this ceremony will fit into the way the monarchy really operates during the next reign.”

[foxfanazer]

Mediocrity by the looks of it

[norwichfox]

5 day funeral....must be using wet matches on the Cremation Pyre