our crap fans! sorry but its true

[willy37]

also i have noticed with the poor atmosphere, we dont really seem to sing songs about players, apart from shouting huuuuuuume. maybe we should show our apprecation more, to players that try to earn it, such as paddy for example:D

[SystonFox]

paddy mcarthy *clap clap clap clap clap*

or

joey gud-jon-son *clap clap clap clap*

[lcfcalan]

Next time you are in the Kop , look around you at the 'groups' of people who make up the crowd in there.

You will see, your 'group', ie: your friends that you go to the match with, then almost guaranteed , within two or three seats to your left or right or up or down, you will see a 'family ' group made up of two elderly g/parents, one parent and three young children. or maybe two or three young 'couples' with the lad trying to impress his girlfriend by taking her to footie when obvioulsy she is only there to please him . (no offence girls cos i know a lot of you like and enjoy your footie). Beyond these groups you will see another group similar to yours, and this 'pattern' extends right across and up and down the Kop. I may not have explained it greatly but i am sure you get my drift. Trust me, if you look around, you will see what I mean.

The diverse array of the people in the Kop now actually breaks up the 'singers'. Tickets for a standing only area would get the 'singers' together,numbered seating spreads people away from similar minded people .

[Guest]

I love the way people blame the lack of atmosphere on an inanimate object.

[IDEA OR IKEA]

Next time you are in the Kop , look around you at the 'groups' of people who make up the crowd in there.

You will see, your 'group', ie: your friends that you go to the match with, then almost guaranteed , within two or three seats to your left or right or up or down, you will see a 'family ' group made up of two elderly g/parents, one parent and three young children. or maybe two or three young 'couples' with the lad trying to impress his girlfriend by taking her to footie when obvioulsy she is only there to please him . (no offence girls cos i know a lot of you like and enjoy your footie). Beyond these groups you will see another group similar to yours, and this 'pattern' extends right across and up and down the Kop. I may not have explained it greatly but i am sure you get my drift. Trust me, if you look around, you will see what I mean.

The diverse array of the people in the Kop now actually breaks up the 'singers'. Tickets for a standing only area would get the 'singers' together,numbered seating spreads people away from similar minded people .

True, bring back the cages

[Guest]

So called 'singing sections' make the other areas even quieter. With a stadium designed like ours, to keep noise in the area it is made, would be detrimental if you ask me.

We have had good atmosphere's at the WS. I can also remember times when the old Kop at Filbo had less atmosphere than the moon. It seems that it is easier to blame a lump of concrete instead of the apathetic supporters who fill it. Getting all dewy-eyed and nostalgic isn't going to change that, how many people in the WS these days actually went to Filbo, let alone sat/stood in the Kop in the first place?

[Jay]

Southamptons ground is identicle and that was voted Noisiest ground in its first or 2nd season so stop making excuses for the poor fans that we have.

good point Durnerz during the first season we had some real noise at the Walkers the Derby game for example was fantastic and the entire Kop was shaking!!!

most fans now just can't be bothered which I think is a real shame and it's nothing to do with standing the majority of grounds in the top 2 divisions are all seaters but still manage to produce some great atmospheres

[Ric Flair]

Yes I do you non entity, I lost friends in that tragedy so I can say what I choose. I also have friends who live in Hillsbrough and they'll tell you what the Liverpool fans were like that day. Yes the authorities made hideous mistakes but to make the Liverpool fans out to be saints is so very wrong.

Liverpool fans have been involved in 2 of the worst football disasters of my life time, resulting in 135 deaths, and that is a massive reason we no longer have the right to stand at football.

Have you ever read the book 'Hillsborough: The Truth'

Absolutely shocking. You will always get a minority of fans at matches that might cause problems but you expect police and stewards to do their job properly. Perhaps that's why stewards are absolute twats like Keith Lard of Pheonix Nights is nowadays.

[Onion]

Yes the atmosphere is crap, its like alot of the fans turn up to moan!

Maybe there should be someone with a drum or something to get the crowd going like at England matches or would that be too much to ask.

[BenFilbert]

It's the stadium itself. It is impossible to get a good atmosphere because it just disappears into the air.

That's wrong. It's not the fault of the stadiums. It's people not shouting. I've got a solution to this. If you want to sing for the team, then do it! If you don't, then don't! I do and a lot of people around me do. If you are so desperate for atmosphere. Stand up and get the crowd going yourself!

[Mad Dog]

The atmosphere at home is quite frankly disgraceful. I hate, hate to say it because I am proud to be a fan of a club like Leicester, but it does make me pretty embarrased to go to home games most of the time. I have a season ticket, but I hate going.

Don't blame the acoustics or stadium lay out, that is bollocks. There's been enough time at the Walkers now for the fans to all move together to L1, the obvious and only choice for the singers to sit, and it's clear that the club don't care enough to act and try to make a difference.

Please, please, if anyone from the club does read this, do something. Save us.

[surrifox]

Quote from Rednapp after Saturday's game :

"I wanted to put Wisey on but it would have woken their fans up and I was afraid their players might respond to that...."

A supportive home crowd is a vital component to success on the field

[Chimp]

Yep, the lack of atmosphere nowadays has nothing to do with the acoustics or the stadium. Anyone remember the first season at the Walkers? The MA promotion year? The fans were well behind the team then and the noise was fantastic for loads of matches, anyone remember the win against Forest on that Tuesday evening?

I've said this before, the majority of fans are reactive and not proactive. They'll respond to what they see on the pitch, if we're doing well they'll be more inclinded to chant. If it's a tight game or we're losing they'll just sit there looking glum.

What we need is a good run of wins coupled with some nice attacking football - you'll see the crowd get the behind the team then.

[Guest]

There's been enough time at the Walkers now for the fans to all move together to L1, the obvious and only choice for the singers to sit, and it's clear that the club don't care enough to act and try to make a difference.

Please, please, if anyone from the club does read this, do something. Save us.

What the hell has it got to do with the club?

What do you expect them to do, apart from spend stupid amounts of money they haven't got, and ensuring that we win every game?

Because it seems to me, the only thing that is going to get the fans singing instead of moaning is results.

Chimp has it spot on.

[evs_the_fox]

in response to lisa, i used to stand in the kop and yes, there were times when it was crap in there. but there was still a 'tighter' feel, everyone was closer - to each other, away fans, the pitch. even when it was quiet there was still someting more than at the new ground.

there needs to be a hell of a lot of people singing to get the new ground going, and the fact that people can only count single instances of it proves this.

im not blaming the ground entirely, as you say, its just a building, the club officials also need to shoulder some blame as should we. the fact that the old kop is now spread out across the new one and L1 is a big problem.

in this day and age, safe standing areas really should not be a problem. and i think if something along those lines doesn't occur soon, fans are going to be leaving in their hundreds, maybe thousands cos you may as well watch it in the pub/home.

at least you can have a drink/fag as you watch!!

[Thracian]

I was in KOP and it was a disgrace - zero passion and atmosphere - there was more noise in the toilets at half time - POOR!

That's just wind and piss!

[AyewJoking]

It will get better once we get good as a team and go back up, playing the big names in front of a sell out crowd.

The people moaning about the lack of atmosphere are the ones who rely on others to get it going.

[Thracian]

It was Thatcher and the Tories that killed the game mate!

Bring back standing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thatcher and tories aren't in charge now and if Blair really WAS the sportsman he forever carps (in his usual hypocritical way) he'd change things back or at the very least partially so. He won't and probably hasn't even got the authority to do so without permission from the EU to whom he's shamelessly conceded our authority.

[Thracian]

We need to find something uplifting that gets everyone going we all seem to do that thing to the goalie when he takes a goal kick and sing about dennis wise why dont we jus sing and get behind the lads it makes such aq big difference .. the reason wise didnt play was because Redknapp knew that would make the fans sing so he didnt want the leicester players to be uplifted .... so come on lets get behind the lads even if they are playing sh*t

Drums always help but we used to have rattles which soon generated a bit of noise but they, like seemingly everything else, have been banned.

It would be interesting if some boffin could compile a list of all the things that have been banned in Blair's Britain.

Or would it be easier and shorter to list the odd items that haven't been banned?

[Guest]

in response to lisa, i used to stand in the kop and yes, there were times when it was crap in there. but there was still a 'tighter' feel, everyone was closer - to each other, away fans, the pitch. even when it was quiet there was still someting more than at the new ground.

there needs to be a hell of a lot of people singing to get the new ground going, and the fact that people can only count single instances of it proves this.

im not blaming the ground entirely, as you say, its just a building, the club officials also need to shoulder some blame as should we. the fact that the old kop is now spread out across the new one and L1 is a big problem.

in this day and age, safe standing areas really should not be a problem. and i think if something along those lines doesn't occur soon, fans are going to be leaving in their hundreds, maybe thousands cos you may as well watch it in the pub/home.

at least you can have a drink/fag as you watch!!

But it doesn't answer the question why it's the club's fault.

Safe standing is a problem; it costs money. It's not simply a case of taking out seats, there would need to be structural changes made to the stadium itself. We were told this at a meeting to discuss standing which was part of the old Fans Forum, and was turned into an Open Meeting to discuss with the club, stewards, police and Safety Advisory Group, that took place a couple of seasons ago.

It is also a problem in that all-seater stadia is legislated. So even if our board were all for the move back to terracing (which they are, as ours is the only club that, at the time I heard from them, is actively involved with Stand Up Sit Down), then it would be breaking the law to do so.

If you want to legally stand at football matches, then do something about it. Sign SUSD's petition, lobby your MP, but don't moan about it and then do nothing.

Same with atmosphere; try making some instead of blaming everything and everyone else.

[Guest]

Thatcher and tories aren't in charge now and if Blair really WAS the sportsman he forever carps (in his usual hypocritical way) he'd change things back or at the very least partially so. He won't and probably hasn't even got the authority to do so without permission from the EU to whom he's shamelessly conceded our authority.

It was the Tories who made the first move.

[BartonFox]

that is a shocking comment .especially when my dad (a liverpool fan) was at the game in question. you my friend are disgusting.

As I said, I lost 2 friends in that tragedy, they died just in case you didn't get it first time round, so I am fully aware of the facts as they are portrayed from Merseyside. I also know people who live in that area of Sheffield and they paint a picture you don't here about at all.

Simple fact of the matter is Liverpool fans were not blameless and those who think they are need to take a look at the whole picture. Another fact, the lovable Scousers also killed 39 people in Belgium because of their rioting, and then they wonder why the entire Juventus away end turned their back on that sick attempt of an apology last season.

[evs_the_fox]

placing the away fans where they are is one problem. getting the home and away fans near each other helps atmosphere.

allowing under 16s in the kop is another. there's 3 other stands in the ground, f.u.k. off round there.

and in response to try making some noise instead of blaming everyone else; in large parts of the ground you're made to feel like a right tw*t if you dare disturb the families, old people etc, having a pleasant day at the cricket... sorry football.

unless the singers/noise makers are able to get together properly it wont happen. following your advice only creates a small group singing their own song which cant be heard 10 rows down, cos another small group are trying to create their own noise.

all oft he fans should be chanting/singing together, not loads of poxy little groups having band practice.

[Katy]

When me and Cobbo went to the first Radio Leicester moan in of the season, Tim Davies asked us off air what we thought of having drums and such like in the ground, we said we were in favour if it got the atmos lifted a bit. Have there been any more developments on this does anyone know? Lease?

[Guest]

When me and Cobbo went to the first Radio Leicester moan in of the season, Tim Davies asked us off air what we thought of having drums and such like in the ground, we said we were in favour if it got the atmos lifted a bit. Have there been any more developments on this does anyone know? Lease?

They're looking into it, last I heard.

placing the away fans where they are is one problem. getting the home and away fans near each other helps atmosphere.

allowing under 16s in the kop is another. there's 3 other stands in the ground, f.u.k. off round there.

and in response to try making some noise instead of blaming everyone else; in large parts of the ground you're made to feel like a right tw*t if you dare disturb the families, old people etc, having a pleasant day at the cricket... sorry football.

unless the singers/noise makers are able to get together properly it wont happen. following your advice only creates a small group singing their own song which cant be heard 10 rows down, cos another small group are trying to create their own noise.

all oft he fans should be chanting/singing together, not loads of poxy little groups having band practice.

The away fans are where they are because it is easier to get them in and out of the ground with the least amount of fuss. The North Stand was made a family stand in line with other clubs, and the fact that the board at that time thought it would keep trouble at bay. Swapping the Kop with the North Stand has been raised at several meetings, and it is the SAG that will not allow this. We even aksed at the last Committee meeting, and there was one dissenting voice saying that people would not want to move stands.

I also mentioned how the Kop used to be adult prices only, and asked if this was possible (albeit for L1), and it was duly 'noted'. As the dissenter above said (and it was the only fair point he made), it is hard to change things mid-way through the season. Perhaps this is something they will think about for next season.

Perhaps you could help persuade the club to push it, by turning up to the Open Meeting, although this is there to discuss stewarding, perhaps the subject of where fans sit (Kop v North Stand) and especially stopping concessions 'getting into' a particular area could be a more viable solution if the club knew that this was what supporters wanted.

Having said that, I don't see why you have to be next to the away fans to get any atmosphere going. Are we there to support the team, or taunt the opposition fans? The Kops at Anfield and Hillsborough, the North Bank at Highbury, the Trent End, the Stretford End, all notoriously vociferous groups of fans (well, perhaps not the Trent End ), and all facing opposite the away end.