Invisible History

[The whole world smiles]

Out of interest can anyone complaining name even 1 potential candidate that has been more influential in the clubs history? 

 

 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

1 minute ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Depends how you view football I suppose. If you rate success over community etc.

Speaking of community I can't recall any previous owners giving millions away to local hospitals can you?

 

[CosbehFox]

1 minute ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Ok did any of the other so called influencers win us the Premier league on their own or not? there is no way this club would have ever won the Premier league without our present owners. Talk about the ungratefulness of it all, it's shocking to hear a Leicester supporter being so negative about our current owners.

No one has been negative about the current owners or ungrateful 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

2 minutes ago, Finnaldo said:

Has there ever previously been an owner described as ‘influential’ when it’s comes to football clubs? I can think of someone telling me Jimmy Hill created the first all-seater stadium in English football and that’s about this, when I think about ‘influential’ figures in football I think players and managers, Leicester in particular I think of O’Neil, Walsh, Pearson, Vardy etc., so the wording is a little weird. Best owner indisputably but I can’t see particularly ‘influential’ to the football club.

 

Some may consider this distasteful but he didn’t in my opinion. That team was absolutely not built and funded with steady progression up the table and a chance at a top 10 finish likely the goal, how we finished top was a miracle reserved, at the most simplistic level, to the players and manager that season. Was he integral to getting us in a position to even make that possible? Absolutely and he deserve plaudits for that but it’s not what I categorise as being the most influential man in the club’s history.

Do you really think this club would have ever won the premier league title without these owners?

[CosbehFox]

3 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Speaking of community I can't recall any previous owners giving millions away to local hospitals can you?

 

Probably not but there are examples at LCFC and other clubs of individuals with such acts as well. 

It’s not a criticism of the owners period here and that needs to be separated. It’s an issue with the term of influential alongside a visible lack of acknowledgement to the clubs history. 

 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

4 minutes ago, Finnaldo said:

Has there ever previously been an owner described as ‘influential’ when it’s comes to football clubs? I can think of someone telling me Jimmy Hill created the first all-seater stadium in English football and that’s about this, when I think about ‘influential’ figures in football I think players and managers, Leicester in particular I think of O’Neil, Walsh, Pearson, Vardy etc., so the wording is a little weird. Best owner indisputably but I can’t see particularly ‘influential’ to the football club.

 

Some may consider this distasteful but he didn’t in my opinion. That team was absolutely not built and funded for a title run, it was with steady progression up the table and a chance at a top 10 finish likely the goal, how we finished top was a miracle reserved, at the most simplistic level, to the players and manager that season. Was he integral to getting us in a position to even make that possible? Absolutely and he deserve plaudits for that but it’s not what I categorise as being the most influential man in the club’s history.

Ok so name one then?

[Sampson]

7 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Ok did any of the other so called influencers win us the Premier league on their own or not? there is no way this club would have ever won the Premier league without our present owners. Talk about the ungratefulness of it all, it's shocking to hear a Leicester supporter being so negative about our current owners.

How is it ungrateful to say I think saying Vichai is the single most influential person in the club's history is pretty cringey and bit of a silly sweeping statement?  How am I being so negative just because I'm saying they're not THE MOST influential person ever?  Haha, you have a pretty high ****ing bar for what counts as negativity.

 

We wouldn't have won the title without Claudio Ranieri, Nigel Pearson, Milan Mandaric, Steve Walsh, Craig Shakespeare, even Sven to an extent given a couple of the players he signed and how it forced Vichai to go back to Pearson, probably about 40 other members of the backroom staff and probably about 16 or 17 odd players either.

 

That doesn't make Vichai the single most influential person ever does it? Why not Marc Albrighton or Robert Huth for example? They both played a massive part in our great escape and title run and we likely would've been relegated if neither had turned up at the end of the great escape season.

Edited 5 April 2022 by Sampson

[CosbehFox]

1 minute ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Do you really think this club would have ever won the premier league title without these owners?

Is LCFC just about winning the top flight ? I think that’s the crucial point here 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

1 minute ago, Sampson said:

How is it ungrateful to say I think saying Vichai is the single most influential person in the club's history is pretty cringey and bit of a silly sweeping statement?  How am I being so negative just because I'm saying they're not THE MOST influential person ever?  Haha, you have a pretty high ****ing bar for what counts as negativity.

 

We wouldn't have won the title without Claudio Ranieri, Nigel Pearson, Milan Mandaric, Steve Walsh, Craig Shakespeare, even Sven to an extent given a couple of the players he signed and how it forced Vichai to go back to Pearson, probably about 40 other members of the backroom staff and probably about 16 or 17 odd players either. That doesn't make Vichai the single most influential person ever does it? 

Yes and none of them would have been here if not for our owners .

[Sampson]

1 minute ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Yes and none of them would have been here if not for our owners .

What are you talking about? Milan Mandaric wouldm't have been here if not for our owners? Nigel Pearson and the backroom staff were all already here and were originally ousted by our owners.

 

Our owners wouldn't have been here of not for about 100,000 people before them at the club either, some of whom had saved us from administration and wartime financial losees and all sorts!

Edited 5 April 2022 by Sampson

[PAPA LAZAROU]

1 minute ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Is LCFC just about winning the top flight ? I think that’s the crucial point here 

Of course it is. It is our greatest achievement in our clubs history. The whole point of taking part in football is to win things?

[PAPA LAZAROU]

1 minute ago, Sampson said:

What are you talking about? Milan Mandaric wouldm't have been here if not for our owners? Nigel Pearson and the backroom staff were all already here and were originally ousted by our owners.

 

Our owners wouldn't have been here of not for about 100,000 people before them at the club either!

Stick to the question . Who then if not Vichai has been more influential?

[CosbehFox]

1 minute ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Of course it is. It is our greatest achievement in our clubs history. The whole point of taking part in football is to win things?

Personally no. If it was I’d support Man U 

[Sampson]

1 minute ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Stick to the question . Who then if not Vichai has been more influential?

What are you talking about? I've already given an example of Peter Hodge and offered about 70 other people who were at least equally if not more important to the title win.

 

You were the one trying to claim Milan Mandaric and our world class scouting and recruitment teams were only here because of our owners, when they were here beforehand.

Edited 5 April 2022 by Sampson

[FoyleFox]

3 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Of course it is. It is our greatest achievement in our clubs history. The whole point of taking part in football is to win things?

Spurs would beg to differ

[PAPA LAZAROU]

Just now, Cardiff_Fox said:

Personally no. If it was I’d support Man U 

So you don't care if we win nothing then?

[davieG]

This seems to have gone off topic it was intended to be about making our history more visible to fans and visitors.

 

It's got to a point where football it looks like football started in 1992 and LCFC started in 2010.

[CosbehFox]

5 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Yes and none of them would have been here if not for our owners .

Of that named list four of them were here before King Power involvement. 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

Just now, Sampson said:

What are you talking about? I've already given an example of Peter Hodge and offered about 70 other people who were at least equally if not more important to the title win.

None of them achieved what these owners did. What 70? must have been a long post I must have missed it.

[Finnaldo]

11 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Do you really think this club would have ever won the premier league title without these owners?

We shouldn’t have won it with them in charge. As I said, that team was on a middling PL budget, it wasn’t exactly masterminded ala Ibrahimovic or the Sheikh at Man City was it? It was an absolute miracle things came together for a title win and I can only say in that regard is that it was the players and manager playing well above what anyone expected us to, you could also credit the superb system put in place by Pearson and team previously, of course funded by the owner.
 

All of those folks are incredibly influential in what Leicester City is today and what we achieved, we probably don’t win the PL if you remove any element of the above so I can’t see how you can pick one of them (the owner) and say they are the most influential. He died and it was a horrific tragedy we’ll likely never forget, I don’t think that automatically makes him more influential personally. 

Edited 5 April 2022 by Finnaldo

[PAPA LAZAROU]

2 minutes ago, davieG said:

This seems to have gone off topic it was intended to be about making our history more visible to fans and visitors.

 

It's got to a point where football it looks like football started in 1992 and LCFC started in 2010.

Ok I give up.

[Chloe_77]

5 minutes ago, davieG said:

This seems to have gone off topic it was intended to be about making our history more visible to fans and visitors.

 

It's got to a point where football it looks like football started in 1992 and LCFC started in 2010.

Don’t worry i think most people on here understood what you meant- and i 100% agree. 

Does anyone know if the club has any plans to make our history more visible? 

Edited 5 April 2022 by Chloe_77

[davieG]

Just now, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Ok I give up.

Or you could give a view on the visibility of our history and start a separate topic on who /what has been the most influential.

[CosbehFox]

Just now, PAPA LAZAROU said:

So you don't care if we win nothing then?

Not really no. When I was seven, I never ever thought we’d win the top flight. The second tier, yes because it’s relative to how we are a size of a club. The amazing part of the last few years has been more about the journey than the final destination. 
 

I support my club because of local pride, family, community etc. I met the friends I have now through Leicester City when we were shit. It’s been incredible to share the last few years with them but the current owners nor recent success were the influence what made me support Leicester City FC. 
 

I actually think the families biggest legacy will be when the stadium expands to 40k and gives the opportunity for more fans to watch us play alongside having the chance to take my own children (when born) which is currently a pain in the arse. 

[CosbehFox]

3 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

None of them achieved what these owners did. What 70? must have been a long post I must have missed it.

They’d have been no club without those names.