Invisible History

[Sampson]

Just now, PAPA LAZAROU said:

None of them achieved what these owners did. What 70? must have been a long post I must have missed it.

Yes they did. They've been part of our league winning side and Peter Hodge was a major part of saving the club from complete destruction, how is that not as influential than building a training ground and imporving the budget?.

 

Are you actually reading what I'm writing? I was talking about the entire backroom staff who won the title and our scouting, analyst and sports science teams which were a massive part in why we won the league, considering our owners didn't outspend anyone massively, that's how you win the league without spending big 0 by being smarter than the opposition. And the sports science, analyst and scouting systems and many of the staff were put in place in 2008, prior to KP taking over? They absolutely would be there if KP weren't and they played at least as big a role in us winning the league as our owners did.

[Freeman's Wharfer]

7 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Stick to the question . Who then if not Vichai has been more influential?

[moore_94]

11 minutes ago, Sampson said:

What are you talking about? Milan Mandaric wouldm't have been here if not for our owners? Nigel Pearson and the backroom staff were all already here and were originally ousted by our owners.

When KP took over it was Sousa in charge

 

Pearson had already gone to Hull after Mandaric basically pushed him out of the club by inviting Sousa to the playoff games

[CosbehFox]

What I do find interesting is take a club like Bournemouth - I work alongside a Bournemouth fan and his biggest regret in recent years is that when the club succeeded, the actual legacy left isinsignificant. 
 

If you asked Bournemouth fans their biggest historical influence, they’d said Eddie Howe every time without doubt. They wouldn’t mention the Russian benefactor who supplied all the money from League 1 upwards. 
 

I’m not saying what’s the right view or the wrong view but it is interesting how at Leicester the owners are held in a special regard. I think the nearest clubs which spring to mind with a similar outlook would be Brighton and Brentford but a lot of that stems from the ability to give them a modern stadium and in Brighton’s case, a much needed game changer 

[moore_94]

10 minutes ago, davieG said:

This seems to have gone off topic it was intended to be about making our history more visible to fans and visitors.

 

It's got to a point where football it looks like football started in 1992 and LCFC started in 2010.

I know there was something about possibly putting a museum in the new fanstore when it is built

 

But certainly needs to be a bit more around the actual ground I think, I would love for us to do something similar to what Everton have, a timeline around the whole ground of the history of the club

 

Went to an away game a couple of years ago, got there early, easily spent a good 30 minutes to an hour just walking around reading it

 

http://www.evertoncollection.org.uk/article?id=ART93847

[Fox92]

21 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

Do you really think this club would have ever won the premier league title without these owners?

The owners didn't pick the team, score 20 goals a season or keep clean sheets.

 

The club wouldn't even be in the Premier League without Nigel Pearson.

[Finnaldo]

Just now, moore_94 said:

When KP took over it was Sousa in charge

 

Pearson had already gone to Hull after Mandaric basically pushed him out of the club by inviting Sousa to the playoff games

Wasn’t the story basically the Thais wanted someone a bit more prestigious and asked he be sacked in place of someone more ‘fitting’? It was only after Sousa and Sven and endless spaffing of money the Thais went back to Pearson and from then on they’ve been pretty careful and patient with managers.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

6 minutes ago, Finnaldo said:

Wasn’t the story basically the Thais wanted someone a bit more prestigious and asked he be sacked in place of someone more ‘fitting’? It was only after Sousa and Sven and endless spaffing of money the Thais went back to Pearson and from then on they’ve been pretty careful and patient with managers.

Correct. Everyone knows this.

[Sampson]

5 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

When KP took over it was Sousa in charge

 

Pearson had already gone to Hull after Mandaric basically pushed him out of the club by inviting Sousa to the playoff games

Mandaric pushed him out because he was already selling the club and KP wanted a bigger name manager. Same reason Mandaric signed Yuki Abe that summer above Sousa's head.

[moore_94]

5 minutes ago, Finnaldo said:

Wasn’t the story basically the Thais wanted someone a bit more prestigious and asked he be sacked in place of someone more ‘fitting’? It was only after Sousa and Sven and endless spaffing of money the Thais went back to Pearson and from then on they’ve been pretty careful and patient with managers.

It was Mandaric that wanted some one more high profile in charge to make the club more attractive

 

Pearson was falling out with Lee Hoos at the time as well

 

https://theathletic.com/1686933/2020/03/24/unwritten-paulo-sousa-leicester/

Edited 5 April 2022 by moore_94

[Finnaldo]

6 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

It was Mandaric that wanted some one more high profile in charge to make the club more attractive to foreign investors

 

Pearson was falling out with Lee Hoos as well

 

https://theathletic.com/1686933/2020/03/24/unwritten-paulo-sousa-leicester/

I can only read so much of that as I’m not a Athletic subscriber unfortunately, but putting two and two together, assuming Mandaric sacked Pearson on the basis of having a higher profile manager ‘to appease to foreign investors’, the Thais pretty much immediately buy us up, eventually sack Sousa and go on to sign an even higher profile manager in Sven, that it was the Thais who were the foreign investors Mandaric got a new manager in for? I get your point but it’s ultimately the same result: the Thais for the first couple years were extremely gung-ho with appointments and signings until they learned their lessons and built some trust with Pearson.

[Foxdiamond]

33 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Not really no. When I was seven, I never ever thought we’d win the top flight. The second tier, yes because it’s relative to how we are a size of a club. The amazing part of the last few years has been more about the journey than the final destination. 
 

I support my club because of local pride, family, community etc. I met the friends I have now through Leicester City when we were shit. It’s been incredible to share the last few years with them but the current owners nor recent success were the influence what made me support Leicester City FC. 
 

I actually think the families biggest legacy will be when the stadium expands to 40k and gives the opportunity for more fans to watch us play alongside having the chance to take my own children (when born) which is currently a pain in the arse. 

Not wanting to be critical of your statement which is obviously sound and honest. The current owners have elevated the club to a level not seen before. I always thought of us as trying to mix it with the best but falling just short. Even back in the 60s we seemed to be a couple of players short of getting our hands on major honours. Winning the League Cup in 64 and again in 97 and 2000 seemed to be the best we could hope for and maybe stay in top division for a decent period. It was a constant regret that we had not won the FA Cup let alone the league title. We had under achieved mainly through under investment. What has happened since 2010 is wonderful. I don't want to pick the bones out of it. Thank goodness for those that started and saved the club but we can now hold our head high among clubs of similar size. I don't honestly think we could before.

[dynamark]

Isnt it fact that KP were big into Chelsea years back and someone(cannot recall who) suggested LCFC as a possible if they wanted to get really involved.Im sure I also saw a story where they had a bit of a fall out at Chelsea over access or something ,All worked out in the end apart from the obvious.

[Lambert09]

Can you imagine how our history would have changed so drastically if Sven’s random cash splurges actually worked. 
 

The first squad Sven inherited along with the loans was actually pretty good. Naughtiness (naughton the auto correct is too funny to delete in this edit) , bruma, mee, yakubu. If that squad had squeezed a playoff spot and promotion. I would imagine we would have gone the way of fulham or qpr (throwing huge money at average/ worse players) except undoing all of that after the inevitable relegation would have been a huge task!  Not to mention the fact our owners probably wouldn’t have learnt and we would have gone for another high profile name. 
 

The butterfly effect is huge in football 

Edited 5 April 2022 by Lambert09

[Ric Flair]

Will fans be equally as upset when the Vardy statue is built and he's dubbed our best ever player?

[when_you're_smiling]

1 hour ago, The whole world smiles said:

Out of interest can anyone complaining name even 1 potential candidate that has been more influential in the clubs history? 

 

 

Anyone involved in taking us out of administration. The club wouldn’t have existed if it wasn’t for them.

[NewburyFox]

I think the discussion of whether he is or isn't the most influential is irrelevant - it's simply saying it in the first place. You can make an argument that he is for the decisions he made while chairman, but why can't they simply say "one of"? It doesn't dumb down his legacy, avoids this pointless debate and doesn't give the impression (again) that LCFC only started in 2010. 

[Guest ttfn]

Just now, Ric Flair said:

Will fans be equally as upset when the Vardy statue is built and he's dubbed our best ever player?

Who’s upset? I’ve seen almost universal praise for the building of the statue.
 

Personally I’m not sure I get it, I’d be building statues of players and managers before club owners and administrators. There can’t be many other clubs with owners immortalised as statues - Blackburn is one that springs to mind but this is very unusual.

[Nick]

2 hours ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

I would say anyone who came and bought the club when we were nothing but a championship strugglers, payed off all the debts, funded a multi million training ground and payed  top money for players, won us the ultimate prize of winning the premier league and lost his life in the pursuit of it all qualifies as the " Most influential figure in the clubs 138 year history" wouldn't you?

Absolutely.

[moore_94]

23 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Will fans be equally as upset when the Vardy statue is built and he's dubbed our best ever player?

Gary Lineker statue first and dubbed most important player, better scoring rate and the club wouldn't exist without him 

Edited 5 April 2022 by moore_94

[Stadt]

Matt Gillies played for us, captained us and managed us to our first major trophy. 
 

Hugely influential 

[Guest Electric Yetis]

Just give me a statue of Nige and Andy King and I'll be happy.

[Unabomber]

1 hour ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Don’t think anyone can argue with this. 

[Smashing-Pumpkin]

2 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

Don’t think anyone can argue with this. 

Well you certainly wouldnt, you cum tribute him every day.

[Unabomber]

2 minutes ago, Smashing-Pumpkin said:

Well you certainly wouldnt, you cum tribute him every day.

Alright don’t get crass