Addressing some myths for our very confused player Wesley Fofana

[Get Carter]

https://foxesofleicester.com/2022/08/21/wesley-fofana-myths-leicester-city/

 

I've laid down quite clearly in my article why Wesley Fofana is massively confused regarding the transfer - let me know if there's anything i've missed out about why he feels so hard done by

[Get Carter]

Also note how the national media haven't even picked up on this as a story.

 

If this was any player of the media darlings clubs acting this way it would be splashed all over their pages.

 

basically we're being told that we should just let him go, to stop all this nonsense.......the nonsense that he and chelsea started.

 

ah well, at least they got battered at Leeds today

[UHDrive]

7 minutes ago, Get Carter said:

https://foxesofleicester.com/2022/08/21/wesley-fofana-myths-leicester-city/

 

I've laid down quite clearly in my article why Wesley Fofana is massively confused regarding the transfer - let me know if there's anything i've missed out about why he feels so hard done by

Spot on 👍. Well detailed 👏 

[Frank Large's Black Book]

Excellent summation that took FT some 239 pages to say over and and over over again.

 

Do me one favour though - please don't try it for Brendon, that's about to reach 1050 pages. Not counting sub topics.

[FoxTrott]

Re: agreeing terms, I think it is an easy rule to circumvent as everyone works through intermediaries now.
 

Basically it’s like: someone not at Chelsea, but working with Chelsea goes to a mate of Fofana’s, or a representative and says: “Would Wes be happy with X terms?”. And obviously this isn’t contractual but it is avoiding the whole tapping up question.

[Get Carter]

1 hour ago, Frank Large's Black Book said:

Excellent summation that took FT some 239 pages to say over and and over over again.

 

Do me one favour though - please don't try it for Brendon, that's about to reach 1050 pages. Not counting sub topics.

nice one, just so i'm clear you're having a pop at the constant topics on the subject and the amount to navigate through on Foxes Talk right?

[Get Carter]

12 minutes ago, FoxTrott said:

Re: agreeing terms, I think it is an easy rule to circumvent as everyone works through intermediaries now.
 

Basically it’s like: someone not at Chelsea, but working with Chelsea goes to a mate of Fofana’s, or a representative and says: “Would Wes be happy with X terms?”. And obviously this isn’t contractual but it is avoiding the whole tapping up question.

i totally get what you're saying and I'm not disputing that, but its still a rule that exists and it seems a bit odd for Fabrizio Romano to be openly stating that terms have been agreed when that shouldn't be happening. I get in 2022 that its not too hard to get around it but they should be more subtle with how they are pushing their messages out, otherwise it just looks disrespectful and a disregard for Leicester City

[FoxTrott]

Just now, Get Carter said:

i totally get what you're saying and I'm not disputing that, but its still a rule that exists and it seems a bit odd for Fabrizio Romano to be openly stating that terms have been agreed when that shouldn't be happening. I get in 2022 that its not too hard to get around it but they should be more subtle with how they are pushing their messages out, otherwise it just looks disrespectful and a disregard for Leicester City

Yeah unfortunately I just think it is what it is for all clubs. Transfers get clicks, being able to say someone has agreed something makes it seem official, even though it isn’t (and realistically couldn’t be agreed until two clubs had agreed on a price)

[Get Carter]

9 hours ago, FoxTrott said:

Yeah unfortunately I just think it is what it is for all clubs. Transfers get clicks, being able to say someone has agreed something makes it seem official, even though it isn’t (and realistically couldn’t be agreed until two clubs had agreed on a price)

The biggest problem in all this is that the player himself seems to think thats what makes it official. amazing that the national media aren't criticising him for his actions either

[Get Carter]

looks like Chelsea are trying to get Wesley worried that they're losing interest

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11133531/Chelsea-eye-Brightons-Adam-Webster-Wesley-Fofana-alternative-Leicester-demanding-80m.html

[Leeds Fox]

12 hours ago, Get Carter said:

i totally get what you're saying and I'm not disputing that, but its still a rule that exists and it seems a bit odd for Fabrizio Romano to be openly stating that terms have been agreed when that shouldn't be happening. I get in 2022 that its not too hard to get around it but they should be more subtle with how they are pushing their messages out, otherwise it just looks disrespectful and a disregard for Leicester City

Regardless of what’s happened (and I do agree with you), Fofana’s camp are to blame for the leak, not necessarily the lad himself.

 

If someone said to me, would you leave your job and come and work for my company for £100k a year, I’d say yes. Whether my current employer would let me leave would be another matter. 

[mozartfox]

We as a Club will lose a lot of respect if we cave in on this one.   We must do what is best for LCFC.  No one else matters including Fofana and fuching Chelsea.  What is going on with our Club right now is nothing short of terrible. We need to turn a corner and quick. A thumping win tomorrow will be a start and Fofana should play.  85m up front - no Chelsea performance add-ons as they do not look very good at the moment.  

[Get Carter]

21 minutes ago, Leeds Fox said:

Regardless of what’s happened (and I do agree with you), Fofana’s camp are to blame for the leak, not necessarily the lad himself.

 

If someone said to me, would you leave your job and come and work for my company for £100k a year, I’d say yes. Whether my current employer would let me leave would be another matter. 

thats the diffference when we compare this to our normal jobs. I'm not contracted for 5 years to my employer and doubling my wages would be life changing money to me. For Fofana its just even more money for a very rich person to add to, fair play he wants to join a champions league club but he needs to retain his professionalism and honour his contract until Leicester allow him to leave for a situation that suits them.

[Get Carter]

6 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

We as a Club will lose a lot of respect if we cave in on this one.   We must do what is best for LCFC.  No one else matters including Fofana and fuching Chelsea.  What is going on with our Club right now is nothing short of terrible. We need to turn a corner and quick. A thumping win tomorrow will be a start and Fofana should play.  85m up front - no Chelsea performance add-ons as they do not look very good at the moment.  

totally agree and also Fofana should be MADE to play against Chelsea and if he refuses then he should be fined accordingly

[SpacedX]

30 minutes ago, Get Carter said:

totally agree and also Fofana should be MADE to play against Chelsea and if he refuses then he should be fined accordingly

He should be champing at the bit to play against Chelsea for two reasons. Firstly, self-respect and personal pride. He is contracted to play for this club and his two performances this season have been sub par by his standards. Secondly, if Chelsea are still coveting his services - or their interest has slightly waned and are looking elsewhere, then what better way to renew or solidify this at the Bridge on the 27th, by excelling at what he does and producing the world class performance that we all know he is capable of.

[Get Carter]

2 minutes ago, Line-X said:

He should be champing at the bit to play against Chelsea for two reasons. Firstly, self-respect and personal pride. He is contracted to play for this club and his two performances this season have been sub par by his standards. Secondly, if Chelsea are still coveting his services - or their interest has slightly waned and are looking elsewhere, then what better way to renew or solidify this at the Bridge on the 27th, by excelling at what he does and producing the world class performance that we all know he is capable of.

agreed, he should be showing us all how professional he is and do his talking on the pitch rather than with cryptic social media posts and limp goal celebrations from the stands

[SpacedX]

Just now, Get Carter said:

agreed, he should be showing us all how professional he is and do his talking on the pitch 

Same applies to Tielemans in respect of his purported eagerness to sign for Arsenal. .

 

As much as a knob as Mahrez was going AWOL, he never consistently went missing on the pitch. 

[Get Carter]

Grame Souness delivers his verdict - https://talksport.com/football/1177252/graeme-souness-leicester-chelsea-wesley-fofana-transfer-news/

[Get Carter]

also journalists Ben Jacobs and Rob Dorsett both have very different viewpoints on how they see Leicester reacting to the latest Chelsea bids

 

 

[PhillippaT]

21 hours ago, Line-X said:

He should be champing at the bit to play against Chelsea for two reasons. Firstly, self-respect and personal pride. He is contracted to play for this club and his two performances this season have been sub par by his standards. Secondly, if Chelsea are still coveting his services - or their interest has slightly waned and are looking elsewhere, then what better way to renew or solidify this at the Bridge on the 27th, by excelling at what he does and producing the world class performance that we all know he is capable of.

This - how many players have been signed because of how well they played against you?  Lots......

[ClaphamFox]

13 minutes ago, Get Carter said:

also journalists Ben Jacobs and Rob Dorsett both have very different viewpoints on how they see Leicester reacting to the latest Chelsea bids

 

 

Dorsett has contacts at Leicester and is generally reliable. Jacobs is apparently a Leicester supporter but I can't remember him ever breaking a story about us that turned out to be true. He seems to have better contacts at other clubs and bases his stories on what they tell him.

Edited 23 August 2022 by ClaphamFox

[5waller5]

22 hours ago, Leeds Fox said:

Regardless of what’s happened (and I do agree with you), Fofana’s camp are to blame for the leak, not necessarily the lad himself.

 

If someone said to me, would you leave your job and come and work for my company for £100k a year, I’d say yes. Whether my current employer would let me leave would be another matter. 

This is at the heart of it for me…

The extra few mill to a multimillionaire at 20 I don’t think is the driving force. 

 

The few hundred grand for an “agent” or his entourage could be life changing money, so it’s in the interests of those around footballers to get them moves 

[Verumex]

1 hour ago, 5waller5 said:

This is at the heart of it for me…

The extra few mill to a multimillionaire at 20 I don’t think is the driving force. 

 

The few hundred grand for an “agent” or his entourage could be life changing money, so it’s in the interests of those around footballers to get them moves 

I don't know about that, while I do think his agent is the driving force behind all of this, he was very up front when he signed for us that money was a massive factor that drives him, as he and his family grew up in poor conditions and he wants to improve the lives of those he cares about.

 

Not everyone after money is necessarily greedy and selfish, that pay bump that Chelsea are supposedly offering could be massive for not just him, but his entire family and a lot of close friends, maybe even his hometown as a whole if he wishes to donate to local causes. 

 

Not all footballers want more money to pay for designer handbags.

 

That and it can't be cheap to have daily hair sculpting.

[Get Carter]

4 hours ago, Verumex said:

I don't know about that, while I do think his agent is the driving force behind all of this, he was very up front when he signed for us that money was a massive factor that drives him, as he and his family grew up in poor conditions and he wants to improve the lives of those he cares about.

 

Not everyone after money is necessarily greedy and selfish, that pay bump that Chelsea are supposedly offering could be massive for not just him, but his entire family and a lot of close friends, maybe even his hometown as a whole if he wishes to donate to local causes. 

 

Not all footballers want more money to pay for designer handbags.

 

That and it can't be cheap to have daily hair sculpting.

nobody forced him to sign a five year contract and if he's really thinking about being good with money he wouldn't be considering moving to one of the most expensive parts of the world to live

[Get Carter]