Injuries

[Marsifox]

I'm doing my degree in sport science and part of it is injuries... We are up there with the most and I can't actually understand why. Supposedly the lead fitness coach doesn't like the gym - which I find hard to believe, but if true definitely explains some of it. 

 

Why Maddison's injury is so secretive? If he even has an injury, or some undiagnosed knee condition. 

 

It seems the players are so lethargic every game, it seems in the videos they used to show of Leicester training they were having a laugh and not taking it too seriously. Which is fine and the beginning, but leading up to the game... It's about getting ready not having a giggle. 

 

I'd love to have a few days at the training ground to see what actually happens behind the scenes, why everything has gone so wrong, why there are so many injury's, do they actually respect Brendan? Etc. 

[turkish14]

I work in sports and have the same view too. Also pre game warm ups there doesn’t seem to be the focus and energy other teams have. Just my observation though. 

Edited 15 January 2023 by turkish14

[Nolucklcfc]

It’s probably a mix of things. Some players like tielemans have a good level of durability and don’t tend to pick up muscle tears. Then you look at ndidi, evans, KDH, Maddison. These are not players that are particularly durable. Age obviously a factor with evans. Then you’ve got Rodgers who doesn’t trust the squad so will overplay them which leads to injuries. I do think with certain ones we’ve been unlucky like Justin Ricardo etc. you can’t do an awful lot about bad challenges or studs getting caught in turf and twisting. I don’t for a second doubt our medical department and their knowledge. I think it’s part of some of these players that they struggle with the amount of games and will naturally just be more injury prone than others. I think with us, we just by chance have too many injury prone players. 

[ALC Fox]

I mentioned this in a different thread yesterday but I wonder if the surfaces the players train on have something to do with the injuries.

 

Seagrave is out in the countryside so will naturally be colder than in the city. So in the winter how much time is being spent on the outdoor and indoor pitches and is that affecting the number of injuries we have?

 

I'd hope not. Maybe instead it's something else like rushing players back too early or playing important players too much when their bodies are at risk of breaking down.

 

But I'd at least hope that an analyst somewhere is looking at the facilities and wondering if there's something that could be done to reduce the amount of injuries we have.

[goose2010]

25 minutes ago, ALC Fox said:

I mentioned this in a different thread yesterday but I wonder if the surfaces the players train on have something to do with the injuries.

 

Seagrave is out in the countryside so will naturally be colder than in the city. So in the winter how much time is being spent on the outdoor and indoor pitches and is that affecting the number of injuries we have?

 

I'd hope not. Maybe instead it's something else like rushing players back too early or playing important players too much when their bodies are at risk of breaking down.

 

But I'd at least hope that an analyst somewhere is looking at the facilities and wondering if there's something that could be done to reduce the amount of injuries we have.

It is 100% the surfaces. We use the same technology (mix of grass and plastic) that they use in the NFL. Only us, Chelsea and Spurs use this in the UK. 

 

You look at how our pitch looks compared to say forests yesterday. 

 

The same grass is used at seagrave as the KP. No give in it what's so ever. 

 

But it looks good doesn't it! 

 

It obviously isn't the major issue we are shit but it obviously is affecting players coming back / getting re injured 

[fazzyfox]

I had that very opportunity at the end of Pleats reign, there was a physio and a doctor associated to the club but I was the first to go in and apply any analysis or even logging of data to look at potential causes, loading, preventions, patterns, recurrences etc with a particular emphasis on the content of the training sessions. With Colin Gibson, Rob Johnson, Rooster, Ricky Hill and Tony James around there were plenty of case studies.

 

I would love to do the same now even though you’d think every base is covered by the broad team of sports scientists and their extensive monitoring. The specific thing that I’d want to look at would be those early injuries in 3 consecutive games (plus a withdrawal in warm up). The return to action post World Cup is a unique scenario, not quite needing an equivalent of a pre-season intensity graduation but I think ours hasn’t been fine tuned correctly and our boys are dropping like flies. Some other clubs have suffered too but not as significantly as us. Four players don’t make it to half time in 3 games, the only partial explanation coming from Rodger’s that the same players are having to play every game but how does that explain the first game back? The Christmas games usually see rotation and arrive with the squad finely tuned from the traditional pattern of playing and training, this one has been different and just like the nervous young me preparing to ask experienced Gordon Lee why slight nimble wingers have the exact same training load and content as bulky centre halves, I’d be asking about how those early injuries were potentially related to an in-sufficient intensity of those friendly warm up games and the World Cup period.

[henry56]

Watched the “ warmup “ v Fulham which seemed to consist of “ shooting in”. Looked a shambles - laughing and joking and un focussed . 
2 pulled hamstrings within 10 minutes of kick off .

Seemed symptomatic of a general lack of professionalism and concentration which has pervaded performances this season . 

[Kinowe Soorie]

Whereabouts was it when he played (I think Ricky P and Cags) after they had just come back from injury? It was freezing cold!

[Kinowe Soorie]

1 minute ago, henry56 said:

Watched the “ warmup “ v Fulham which seemed to consist of “ shooting in”. Looked a shambles - laughing and joking and un focussed . 
2 pulled hamstrings within 10 minutes of kick off .

Seemed symptomatic of a general lack of professionalism and concentration which has pervaded performances this season . 

Like a Sunday morning football warm up 

[westernpark]

Just now, Kinowe Soorie said:

Whereabouts was it when he played (I think Ricky P and Cags) after they had just come back from injury? It was freezing cold!

Ukraine I think, Zorya.

[henry56]

1 minute ago, Kinowe Soorie said:

Like a Sunday morning football warm up 

Exactly 

[Alf Bentley]

It might be just coincidence, but the contrast between players who went to the World Cup and those who stayed with the club is interesting....

 

- Amartey, Mendy, Tielemans & Castagne played a number of WC games - and are fit

- Ward & Faes went to WC, didn't play or barely played - and are fit

- Maddison is an oddity: went to WC with a minor injury, was reportedly fit by the knock-out stages but didn't play - apparently developed a further problem on returning to the club

- Aside from Maddison, the players injured are those who didn't go to the WC. Some are long-term issues or unavoidable injuries, but a number seem to be muscle strain/tear-type issues

 

 

 

[jim5000]

I just hope we get to see Pereira back in action and that he can get back to his best. He was one of the best attacking fullbacks in Europe at one point, and a match winner by himself. 
 

He’s had so long though, I don’t see how it can happen. You surely can’t just stop playing football for 2 years and then come back in at the level you were. If you stop any fitness or skill activity for two years, you will regress massively.