Full Fibre Broadband

[Greg2607]

2 hours ago, FoxesDeb said:

I wasn´t sure where to put this, but this thread will do.

 

We get around 850mbps downstairs, but this reduces to only around 350 upstairs. I´ve been looking at a wifi extender, but it seems that mesh is better, has anyone got any recommendations please, or pros and cons between them please?

I've got 3 Deco M5 across our house as a mesh network.  Works pretty seamlessly, albeit, sometimes your tech stays connected to a mesh router in a different part of the house which can reduce speed, but it essentially gets rid of any areas of WiFi not being accessible.  Bonus is I've put one by the garden, so we have full fibre in the garden too. 

[jgtuk]

37 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

I've got 3 Deco M5 across our house as a mesh network.  Works pretty seamlessly, albeit, sometimes your tech stays connected to a mesh router in a different part of the house which can reduce speed, but it essentially gets rid of any areas of WiFi not being accessible.  Bonus is I've put one by the garden, so we have full fibre in the garden too. 

I’m using three TP-Link Deco XE75 Pro units, as access points though. 
They’re dead easy to set up and use with the app. 
 

[Greg2607]

On 27/11/2023 at 19:30, jgtuk said:

I’m using three TP-Link Deco XE75 Pro units, as access points though. 
They’re dead easy to set up and use with the app. 
 

i'm assuming you have to run ethernet cables through the house though for each access point? 

[jgtuk]

2 hours ago, Greg2607 said:

i'm assuming you have to run ethernet cables through the house though for each access point? 

I do from router to the first one then wireless to the others. My walls are 600mm thick so I've had to move them around to get the best out of them but they are brilliant and so easy to set up and move around for best connection.

 

 

[Big Dave]

Finally got my full fibre broadband fitted a couple of weeks ago (after constant pissing about by Openreach since November).

 

Went with Plusnet on their 300 Mbps package.

Broadband speed near their router is great, getting the correct speed (plus a bit more).

 

The router is shocking though - in my office upstairs, only getting about 15 Mbps (dropping off from over 300 next to the router).

Used to have Vodafone broadband and got a pretty much constant 35Mbps around the whole house - very little drop off anywhere in the house.

I have spoken to Plusnet and they say the drop off is normal?

 

Anyone else experienced such a big drop off in broadband performance?

Guessing I need a WiFi Mesh system? Not sure where to start with that. Any ideas for a cost effective system? 

[jgtuk]

1 minute ago, Big Dave said:

Finally got my full fibre broadband fitted a couple of weeks ago (after constant pissing about by Openreach since November).

 

Went with Plusnet on their 300 Mbps package.

Broadband speed near their router is great, getting the correct speed (plus a bit more).

 

The router is shocking though - in my office upstairs, only getting about 15 Mbps (dropping off from over 300 next to the router).

Used to have Vodafone broadband and got a pretty much constant 35Mbps around the whole house - very little drop off anywhere in the house.

I have spoken to Plusnet and they say the drop off is normal?

 

Anyone else experienced such a big drop off in broadband performance?

Guessing I need a WiFi Mesh system? Not sure where to start with that. Any ideas for a cost effective system? 

Depends whether you want to run Ethernet cable to a wireless access point (or two, three etc).

Next best is wifi mesh followed by those plug in jobbies which use your ring main.

I use TP-link Deco XE75 pro units (one master and 4/5 linked wirelessly) and they are excellent, hardly any drop in bandwidth but I did have to site them correctly to set them up.

Check wall thickness and distances between rooms to work out which type and how many you need.

 

 

[Free Falling Foxes]

Just had some offers through the door for some great broadband deals.

Or so it seems.

I've noticed in TV adverts for various ISPs and again on the offer I've received today that, in small print - of course, it mentions the price goes up by £3/month each April. In other words £36 a year!

Add into the equation, more and more contracts are for 24 months, I think that is massive.

Equally, and this is deceptive I feel, they word it in such a way as to suggest there is a £3 increase in April, implying that is the total increase and not £3 each month.

I know this is just a rewording of the CPI +3.9% increase they all state now but think it can make it seem a better deal than it is.

 

Edited 11 November 2024 by Free Falling Foxes

[Innovindil]

47 minutes ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

Just had some offers through the door for some great broadband deals.

Or so it seems.

I've noticed in TV adverts for various ISPs and again on the offer I've received today that, in small print - of course, it mentions the price goes up by £3/month each April. In other words £36 a year!

Add into the equation, more and more contracts are for 24 months, I think that is massive.

Equally, and this is deceptive I feel, they word it in such a way as to suggest there is a £3 increase in April, implying that is the total increase and not £3 each month.

I know this is just a rewording of the CPI +3.9% increase they all state now but think it can make it seem a better deal than it is.

 

There was talk some time back about legislation saying when you sign a contract the price should be fixed for the length of that contract. No idea what happened to it, long past due for something like that. 

[lcfc278]

Feels like one company tried it, got away with it so now all of the phone/broadband providers do the same. The contract price should be the contract price and take into account potential inflation for the 12 or 24 months it will last for - that's how it always used to be. 

[Free Falling Foxes]

toob - anyone switched to it?

 

Further to my post a little further up, I've had another flyer through the door, this time for toob

Unlike the others I've received, this one is really tempting:

Competitive pricing.

No prices increases during contract.

Excellent speeds, both advertised and reported - including uploads.

Loads of positive reviews online.

Free install ect.

If in contract with another provider, they'll pay upto 9 months* of this if you sign over.

*max £200 odd quid.

 

It makes use of the CityFibre network.

 

One potential downside is; you dont have a unique ip address - it is potentially shared with your neighbours.

However, this wouldn't affect/matter to most users. In anycase, you can pay extra each month for a individual ip address if so desired.

Edited 20 November 2024 by Free Falling Foxes

[CUJimmy]

On 27/11/2023 at 17:22, WigstonWanderer said:

That’s what I’ve done at my place, I think I have about 4 wifi access points scattered around linked by lan cabling and switches. I’ve read about mesh wifi, but it sounds relatively expensive, and my cobbled together network still seems to do the job.

 

Another useful tool is a set of powerline adapters that provide lan connections over your electrical cabling. These can be used together with wifi access points to provide uniform coverage over the house. When they work they are brilliant, but they don’t in all cases.

My Mum has a powerline system that basically gives an access point in every room which works as she lives in a bungalow with a single ring connecting all the sockets.  We don’t have a big house but it has been added to over the years and has 4 separate rings so I don’t see how it would work for us.

[jgtuk]

1 hour ago, CUJimmy said:

My Mum has a powerline system that basically gives an access point in every room which works as she lives in a bungalow with a single ring connecting all the sockets.  We don’t have a big house but it has been added to over the years and has 4 separate rings so I don’t see how it would work for us.

Unless I’m mistaken, they should work as long as they are all on the same phase? Get a set from Amazon, if they don’t work just return them. 

[WigstonWanderer]

58 minutes ago, jgtuk said:

Unless I’m mistaken, they should work as long as they are all on the same phase? Get a set from Amazon, if they don’t work just return them. 

Or borrow a couple of your mum’s if that’s possible.

[CUJimmy]

1 hour ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Or borrow a couple of your mum’s if that’s possible.

It’s not really an issue to be honest, WiFi with a single extender is working fine at the moment but if we get faster internet speed the bottleneck might move inside the house.

[Tommy G]

Daft question but my BT contract has come to an end, noticed it gone up about 20 quid a month so its now £50 odd, if I'm moving house should I ait to recontract or can you port it to a new address?

 

Anyone used sky full fibre 500, if so, quick?

[jgtuk]

46 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Daft question but my BT contract has come to an end, noticed it gone up about 20 quid a month so its now £50 odd, if I'm moving house should I ait to recontract or can you port it to a new address?

 

Anyone used sky full fibre 500, if so, quick?

If not in contract, surely you would be better using a comparison site to compare deals. 

[Tommy G]

26 minutes ago, jgtuk said:

If not in contract, surely you would be better using a comparison site to compare deals. 

I’ve found plenty of deals - my point is if I re contract now is it property specific - or can I move the broadband contract when I move house 

[jgtuk]

56 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

I’ve found plenty of deals - my point is if I re contract now is it property specific - or can I move the broadband contract when I move house 

Sorry, I’m pretty sure you can take it with you, depending on whether your provider can offer broadband to your new property. An email to BT would be best. Personally, I would stay as you are until an exchange of contract on new property then renegotiate. 

[Tommy G]

11 minutes ago, jgtuk said:

Sorry, I’m pretty sure you can take it with you, depending on whether your provider can offer broadband to your new property. An email to BT would be best. Personally, I would stay as you are until an exchange of contract on new property then renegotiate. 

Cheers