Also In The News - part 3

[Daggers]

A ost so dodgy you made it twice, eh Jon?

[MPH]

So Just stop oil decided to desecrate Stonehenge. It’s only been around for 5,000 years and I’ll hazard a guess that no oil was used in its production. I’m sorry but I just can’t support this kind of action whatsoever.

 

( for the record, neither do I support some of the views of the poster of this video)

 

 

[Jon the Hat]

On 18/06/2024 at 15:42, Daggers said:

A ost so dodgy you made it twice, eh Jon?

I am not saying Rwanda is a good plan, it is a joke.  However how do you discourage people from risking their lives in boats? Without just letting anyone in? Its a separate issue from the complete failure / deliberate strategy to process applications.  

Edited 20 June 2024 by Jon the Hat

[Jon the Hat]

1 hour ago, MPH said:

So Just stop oil decided to desecrate Stonehenge. It’s only been around for 5,000 years and I’ll hazard a guess that no oil was used in its production. I’m sorry but I just can’t support this kind of action whatsoever.

 

( for the record, neither do I support some of the views of the poster of this video)

 

 

They are lucky, I might have twatted the guy with his canister.  Repeatedly.

[MPH]

 

[fox_favourite]

6 hours ago, MPH said:

So Just stop oil decided to desecrate Stonehenge. It’s only been around for 5,000 years and I’ll hazard a guess that no oil was used in its production. I’m sorry but I just can’t support this kind of action whatsoever.

 

( for the record, neither do I support some of the views of the poster of this video)

 

 

They're getting out of hand. Stonehenge for goodness sake. 

 

Lets attack a monument that was definitely built by lots of oil made and fueled products...yeah, let's attack Stonehenge! Logic? Nope

Edited 20 June 2024 by fox_favourite

[Jon the Hat]

54 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

They're getting out of hand. Stonehenge for goodness sake. 

 

Lets attack a monument that was definitely built by lots of oil made and fueled products...yeah, let's attack Stonehenge! Logic? Nope

They've gone beyond any sense to lets just get on the TV with whatever it takes.

[st albans fox]

perhaps  their reasoning may have been to illustrate  that without a move completely away from fossil fuels, mankind is destined to return to the Stone Age ! 
 

if so, it’s a bit stoopid 

 

I’m sure all evidence will be gone with a good rinse BUT using Stonehenge as a vehicle for your physical protest is going way too far - dreadful precedent. 

[Free Falling Foxes]

1 hour ago, fox_favourite said:

They're getting out of hand. Stonehenge for goodness sake. 

 

Lets attack a monument that was definitely built by lots of oil made and fueled products...yeah, let's attack Stonehenge! Logic? Nope

Steady on. It was built by aliens you know. Imagine the massive carbon footprint caused by intergalatic travel.

 

 

 

[Dunge]

Stonehenge. Attacking an ancient site that’s used in modern times for worship of the sun. The symbolism is so ironic.

 

Feels like they’re only one step away from attacking the Wanlip Whopper.

[reporterpenguin]

8 hours ago, MPH said:

So Just stop oil decided to desecrate Stonehenge. It’s only been around for 5,000 years and I’ll hazard a guess that no oil was used in its production. I’m sorry but I just can’t support this kind of action whatsoever.

 

( for the record, neither do I support some of the views of the poster of this video)

 

 

The conspiracy theorist in me could believe that there are elements with vested interests within JSO that want to discredit them and make them unpopular.
 

Their cause is surely one with decent support, but the way they go about it understandably drives people away. 

[Daggers]

15 minutes ago, reporterpenguin said:

The conspiracy theorist in me could believe that there are elements with vested interests within JSO that want to discredit them and make them unpopular.
 

Their cause is surely one with decent support, but the way they go about it understandably drives people away. 

But then that would necessitate someone at Tufton Street to be competent and have a brain. Their competence runs to Truss budgets.

[st albans fox]

Did anyone note hezbollah having a verbal swipe at Cyprus yesterday ?

 

Unhappy that Israel have been carrying out some exercises using Cypriot airbases (not connected to ongoing Gaza war or s Lebanon exchange of fire).  I assume that is relevant to U.K. as probably Akrotiri. 
 

Would Biden sanction a war between Israel and hezbollah on the basis that Israel reaches a ceasefire agreement in Gaza with Hamas ??   Then netenyahu has to calculate what constitutes the biggest existential threat to Israel.  
 

this all comes down to Iran - how much do they want a war in s Lebanon.  It could be that they feel they can protect their ongoing nuclear developments by ensuring that Israel are distracted elsewhere. 

[MPH]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

Did anyone note hezbollah having a verbal swipe at Cyprus yesterday ?

 

Unhappy that Israel have been carrying out some exercises using Cypriot airbases (not connected to ongoing Gaza war or s Lebanon exchange of fire).  I assume that is relevant to U.K. as probably Akrotiri. 
 

Would Biden sanction a war between Israel and hezbollah on the basis that Israel reaches a ceasefire agreement in Gaza with Hamas ??   Then netenyahu has to calculate what constitutes the biggest existential threat to Israel.  
 

this all comes down to Iran - how much do they want a war in s Lebanon.  It could be that they feel they can protect their ongoing nuclear developments by ensuring that Israel are distracted elsewhere. 

 

sure, Hezbollah have some well trained and equipped soldiers  but any full scale war would not go well for them at all. They have absolutely no air combat power - single strike drones can not cause any wide scale damage, and Israel would dominate the air  and turn it into nothing more than gorilla warfare very quickly.

Edited 20 June 2024 by MPH

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

sure, Hezbollah have some well trained and equipped soldiers  but any full scale war would not go well for them at all. They have absolutely no air combat power - single strike drones can not cause any wide scale damage, and Israel would dominate the air  and turn it into nothing more than gorilla warfare very quickly.

The current situation with 60k residents evacuated from n Israel (and likely as many from s Lebanon) is unsustainable though. 
We know that netenyahu would probably want to continue the aggro for political reasons or at the very least get a capitulation from Hezbollah (which I can’t see happening either). my point is that it’s tough to see how this resolves without escalating further. 

[MPH]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

The current situation with 60k residents evacuated from n Israel (and likely as many from s Lebanon) is unsustainable though. 
We know that netenyahu would probably want to continue the aggro for political reasons or at the very least get a capitulation from Hezbollah (which I can’t see happening either). my point is that it’s tough to see how this resolves without escalating further. 

 

it depends on by what level you measure ‘ sustainable’ though really. In the grand scheme of things and when measured against the scale of war that is going on in Ukraine, it’s nothing . It’s more than tolerable.  And if anything, moving those residents away allows Israel to avoid a full scale conflict which is what they want to do. At this present moment.

 

I have  long thought that once  Hamas has been taken care of, they will turn their attention to Hezbollah, and whilst you ( and me) have every right to be cyclical and say Netanyahu is just trying to prolong the way for his own political career, I feel like ‘ dealing’ with Hezbollah is probably the right thing to do.

 

Israeli’s will point to October 7th as to why it would be unwise to leave an ‘ enemy’ simmering away  on their door step.

 

whilst I have a lot of sympathy with the Palestinians, I have much less for Hezbollah who are able to travel freely in and out of Lebanon and beyond and can not claim to have the same beef with the Israelis as to what Hamas does.  Even if Hamas does have alterior motives.

 

Once Hamas is dealt with, Israel will launch a full scale aerial war , I think.

Edited 20 June 2024 by MPH

[Daggers]

No lichen were harmed during the making of JSO’s latest video. 
 

 

[st albans fox]

10 minutes ago, Daggers said:

No lichen were harmed during the making of JSO’s latest video. 
 

 

Apparently it wasn’t her jet 

[st albans fox]

32 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

it depends on by what level you measure ‘ sustainable’ though really. In the grand scheme of things and when measured against the scale of war that is going on in Ukraine, it’s nothing . It’s more than tolerable.  And if anything, moving those residents away allows Israel to avoid a full scale conflict which is what they want to do. At this present moment.

 

I have  long thought that once  Hamas has been taken care of, they will turn their attention to Hezbollah, and whilst you ( and me) have every right to be cyclical and say Netanyahu is just trying to prolong the way for his own political career, I feel like ‘ dealing’ with Hezbollah is probably the right thing to do.

 

Israeli’s will point to October 7th as to why it would be unwise to leave an ‘ enemy’ simmering away  on their door step.

 

whilst I have a lot of sympathy with the Palestinians, I have much less for Hezbollah who are able to travel freely in and out of Lebanon and beyond and can not claim to have the same beef with the Israelis as to what Hamas does.  Even if Hamas does have alterior motives.

 

Once Hamas is dealt with, Israel will launch a full scale aerial war , I think.

Why would anyone have any sympathy for Hezbollah ?  (Unless you believe Israel has no right to exist and it’s ok to just attack without any care for what gets hit ). 

 

Edited 20 June 2024 by st albans fox

[Daggers]

18 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Apparently it wasn’t her jet 

I need to tell my daughter, she’s currently very conflicted. 

[MPH]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

Why would anyone have any sympathy for Hezbollah ?  (Unless you believe Israel has no right to exist and it’s ok to just attack without any care for what gets hit ). 

 

 

oh there’s a bunch of people who support them as vehemently as they do Hamas.

[st albans fox]

5 minutes ago, MPH said:

oh there’s a bunch of people who support them as vehemently as they do Hamas.

Of course - i was just thinking in respect of here as a forum. 

whilst i could conceive of people supporting hamas attacking israel as a 'freedom fighting entity', i couldn't in respect of hezbollah. 

[Jon the Hat]

28 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

oh there’s a bunch of people who support them as vehemently as they do Hamas.

It’s almost like said people don’t like Israel for some reason.

[Foxdiamond]

Ghastly news yesterday about the fatal dog attack. Don't know the awful details. Suffice to say I would advise never leaving a dog of any breed alone with a baby or toddler 

[Daggers]

*wrong fvcking thread

Edited 20 June 2024 by Daggers