Cooper - OUT

[jim5000]

1 hour ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Pundits no nothing.

 

Pundits criticise saints for sacking Nigel freaking Adkins and hiring Pochetino.

 

Pundits (mainly Merson) criticised Chelsea and Tuchel, he went on to win the CL.

 

Pundits criticised Bournemouth for sacking Parker.

 

Pundits told us we should have kept Ranieri.

 

Pundits told us we were lucky to have elite manager Brendan. Said we had a good run and it was normal for Leicester to go down. Then spent the summer telling us how elite Barnes, Maddison, Tielemans etc. were. 
 

Pundits watch us for 5 mins a week like every other team except the top 4. Pundits know Jack shit about 16 PL clubs. 
 

You know who should know more than jack shit about us ? Our owner. Yet, here he is again, sat on his little hands, watching the club spiral with a multimillion pound health spa he decided alongside his stupid board to tie around our neck. A health spa which means we need top 6 finishes to be sustainable. How anyone can watch us weekly and not see the evident issues is beyond me, 

100%. Top is not the same man his father was. He inherited a football club and doesn’t seem to know how to run it.

Edited 24 November 2024 by jim5000

[reynard]

35 minutes ago, Corky said:

"A very good coach" who has won 14 out of 67 at this level.

5 wins in his last 29 matches as a manager in the Premier League, admittedly with two clubs, but says it all really.  That's not too far off a complete season.

 

0.82 points per game, a total which is quickly getting worse match by match.

[inckley fox]

2 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

What is he or any of the muppet pundits basing this on? He got Forest promoted and just about kept them up but I've never seen anything from him in his career that suggests he's any better than an average championship manager. Nuno has proven that Forest had some decent players on their books and now he's getting the best out of them. 

 

Proper winds me up when pundits and fans of other clubs say we are impatient and have unrealistic expectations, is it unrealistic to have a gameplan, pick the strongest team available and not play some of the most hideous football we've seen in years? Not even arsed about us losing games and being near the bottom, that's totally expected but the performances really are horrendous 

Getting a club promoted to the top tier, especially when it surpasses expectations, and then keeping them up, immediately makes you better than the average Championship manager. Look at the bosses in that league and you won't see many who have achieved that. And he did a good job in his other FLC post too.

 

There is a valid argument for us starting to look elsewhere. But it isn't (a) that this squad would be soaring with any other manager or (b) that Steve Cooper is a bog standard second tier level manager. Both of those are non-starters which have been repeated over and over by people who were never willing to give him a chance in the first place. Plenty of them will claim to have been more astute than the rest of us, when in truth they were calling for a brand of football which would have seen us mauled with this personnel, and didn't even have us on promotion form in the second half of last season.

 

Poor form, poor points per game over an extended period, discontent from fans to - you suspect - the players, inadequate line-ups and tactics in the early phases of games, a failure to either establish ourselves as an organised, hard-to-beat side or anything beyond that - coupled with the fact that all is not lost and we may still tempt some decent managers - constitute a sensible case for asking whether we can do better.

 

But I do think that some of the anti-Cooper viewpoints are so flawed that they actually strengthen the opposing argument.

Edited 24 November 2024 by inckley fox

[The_77]

I cannot believe someone can manage at one of the 20 most exclusive jobs in the world with such a poor understanding of tactics. 

[Rusko187]

Surely surely surely there’s got to be a murmur of him going, even this club ain’t that stupid to think he has a future?! 
 

There’s literally no point to him being given anymore time, he’s stunk the place out and lost the fans. Make the change now!

[Skidmark]

If more than 90% of fans want him out, then surely that says a lot. Seen various polls putting it as high as 93%. 

 

I reckon he'll be gone. Announcement tomorrow. 

[Finnegan]

2 minutes ago, Rusko187 said:

Surely surely surely there’s got to be a murmur of him going, even this club ain’t that stupid to think he has a future?! 
 

There’s literally no point to him being given anymore time, he’s stunk the place out and lost the fans. Make the change now!

 

You need to remember FoxesTalk is a bit of an echo chamber.

 

Outside of FT I think a lot of fans expected this season to be hard so they don't really see the problem. A lot of our fans think the players are rubbish and nobody could possibly be doing any better.

 

People like Cooper because they see him as no-frills, man-of-the-people, British, 'one of us', back-to-basics, etc and he says a lot of the right things.

 

These are the people that didn't want Rodgers out until pretty much March time.

 

There is no great mass of people calling for Cooper's head, there's no great unrest in the fan base, most of the players probably also like him because he's a personable and likeable man and that's what they see face to face every day.

 

The board don't want to get rid of him because doing so would be expensive and all they want is to survive by a point.

 

 

[st albans fox]

Ipswich win at spurs

saints beating liverpool

 

we fly the white flag at yanited and home to Chelsea 

 

another week or maybe two till we’re in the bottom three though so don’t hold your breath ….

[tickler28]

Keep him....we're going down anyway so not much point wasting money

[The_77]

13 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

You need to remember FoxesTalk is a bit of an echo chamber.

 

Outside of FT I think a lot of fans expected this season to be hard so they don't really see the problem. A lot of our fans think the players are rubbish and nobody could possibly be doing any better.

 

People like Cooper because they see him as no-frills, man-of-the-people, British, 'one of us', back-to-basics, etc and he says a lot of the right things.

 

These are the people that didn't want Rodgers out until pretty much March time.

 

There is no great mass of people calling for Cooper's head, there's no great unrest in the fan base, most of the players probably also like him because he's a personable and likeable man and that's what they see face to face every day.

 

The board don't want to get rid of him because doing so would be expensive and all they want is to survive by a point.

 

 

He doesn’t say any of the right things, though? He comes across as a terrible communicator in his interviews and doesn’t seem to have any idea of what he’s talking about. 

[Lesta Legend]

 

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