General News Thread

[Foxdiamond]

The main difference is that a lot of older people still feel a responsibility and make financial contributions to their adult children and young grandchildren and are fully aware of the difficulties faced by them.  

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, Foxdiamond said:

The main difference is that a lot of older people still feel a responsibility and make financial contributions to their adult children and young grandchildren and are fully aware of the difficulties faced by them.  

If only that were more commonly the case and that was reflected in policy decisions and voting patterns. 

[Dahnsouff]

The  lowering of the voting age is of greater benefit to Labour than other parties, and the younger voters are also more likely to lean toward more liberal issues than older voters, so it may help current climate concerns and this lurch to the right.

[Foxdiamond]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

If only that were more commonly the case and that was reflected in policy decisions and voting patterns. 

Rather sad isn't it

[Dahnsouff]

The demographic is getting more weighted at the top end, it can only be good thing imo, if for nothing else than increased engagement.

[Foxdiamond]

On a slightly different slant. Never mind the question if 16 years should have the vote I read that a lot of people don't consider they are adult until their late 20s. Could part of this be because they didn't start full time work as previously most of us did at 16 so worked five years by 21 and alongside older people.

[Dahnsouff]

10 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

On a slightly different slant. Never mind the question if 16 years should have the vote I read that a lot of people don't consider they are adult until their late 20s. Could part of this be because they didn't start full time work as previously most of us did at 16 so worked five years by 21 and alongside older people.

Was discussing this over the weekend with my 80 year old parents, was it right to want or need to work so much? I understand the point, as in their time, and mine to be fair, the reasons were apparent, the rewards tangible. Also work breeds responsibility and a routine and this is good thing in my mind. However, when the opportunities are not as evident and the rewards remain out of conceivable reach - why would you feel the desire to work so hard?

Edited 17 July 2025 by Dahnsouff

[The Doctor]

30 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

The main difference is that a lot of older people still feel a responsibility and make financial contributions to their adult children and young grandchildren and are fully aware of the difficulties faced by them.  

ehhh, I'm 32 and heading into by my count, the fifth once in a lifetime event in my life, and yet the general consensus on millennials among the older generations is that millennials are spoilt brats wanting life on easy mode. I don't think there is actually much awareness of the difficulties that younger generations are facing tbh

[Wymsey]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jw1pdyp0jo

 

[Heathrow fox]

19 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

On a slightly different slant. Never mind the question if 16 years should have the vote I read that a lot of people don't consider they are adult until their late 20s. Could part of this be because they didn't start full time work as previously most of us did at 16 so worked five years by 21 and alongside older people.

I think it largely depends on when you have real responsibilities.A big factor is that today’s young adults don’t tend to leave the nest until they are much older if at all.

[Foxdiamond]

34 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

ehhh, I'm 32 and heading into by my count, the fifth once in a lifetime event in my life, and yet the general consensus on millennials among the older generations is that millennials are spoilt brats wanting life on easy mode. I don't think there is actually much awareness of the difficulties that younger generations are facing tbh

Having watched the struggle within my own family I would have hoped there was more compassion than perhaps is obvious 

[Dahnsouff]

28 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said:

I think it largely depends on when you have real responsibilities.A big factor is that today’s young adults don’t tend to leave the nest until they are much older if at all.

And ask yourself why is that?

[Foxdiamond]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

And ask yourself why is that?

Lack of proper affordable housing?

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, Foxdiamond said:

Lack of proper affordable housing?

Yes, amongst other things like lower wages, less jobs, higher prices, it is fairly toxic combo for the young.

[Tommy G]

2 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

Lack of proper affordable housing?

Those ****ers that bought houses for a few grand in the 1960s 

[Dahnsouff]

5 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Those ****ers that bought houses for a few grand in the 1960s 

That’s not me by the way, but the percentage of wage is obviously key, but I am quite sure you are taking the Michael with this. 

Edited 17 July 2025 by Dahnsouff

[Foxdiamond]

9 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Those ****ers that bought houses for a few grand in the 1960s 

Council houses sold off more recently than that

[Heathrow fox]

5 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

And ask yourself why is that?

Yes, the cost of flying the nest is certainly a major (MAJOR) factor:You could argue that going to university and living away from home in a different town is just as likely to put hairs on the chest than working with adults from the age of sixteen.

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, Heathrow fox said:

Yes, the cost of flying the nest is certainly a major (MAJOR) factor:You could argue that going to university and living away from home in a different town is just as likely to put hairs on the chest than working with adults from the age of sixteen.

Yes, I think being away at university can help garner some independence and self reliance, but even then you are funded either via loans, grants via parental provision, so supporting yourself fully never really hits home until you work I think.

[Tommy G]

2 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said:

Yes, the cost of flying the nest is certainly a major (MAJOR) factor:You could argue that going to university and living away from home in a different town is just as likely to put hairs on the chest than working with adults from the age of sixteen.

I guess it depends if you are doing a core subject at a red-brick university or a poxy degree in contemporary circus and physical theatre from Wolverhampton Uni. Jesting 
 

 

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, The Doctor said:

ehhh, I'm 32 and have been employed for 6 months!

 

[Foxdiamond]

10 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said:

Yes, the cost of flying the nest is certainly a major (MAJOR) factor:You could argue that going to university and living away from home in a different town is just as likely to put hairs on the chest than working with adults from the age of sixteen.

Fair point

[Dahnsouff]

1 minute ago, Tommy G said:

I guess it depends if you are doing a core subject at a red-brick university or a poxy degree in contemporary circus and physical theatre from Wolverhampton Uni. Jesting 

Pretty sure my 2nd in Klingon Studies at Coventry University made me the man I am today.

[Trav Le Bleu]

16 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

That’s not me by the way, but the percentage of wage is obviously key, but I am quite sure you are taking the Michael with this. 

The greater availability of council housing also meant that private house costs were driven down. Why pay loads of money when it was easy to get a big house for very little rent and a decent, regulated landlord? Thus house prices were relatively cheaper.

 

Supply and demand, etc.

[The Doctor]

4 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

 

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