Durnerz Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 its hard to see just why we arent performing , im guessing its motivation and tactics..but perhaps its down to the players abilities we have here ..i just dont know what to suggest......i cant remember us being this bad for quite some time ,not since the tony spearing days in fact..i remember that touch and go season languishing in the bottom four of this division when it all came down to the last day of the season. The way its going we'll go one worse this season!! Thoroughly dejected and i work with a leeds fan ,its a f***in nightmare Levein drops stearman today who has proven he can give balance on the left and support going forward, he puts back in Nils Eric Johansson who constantly gives the ball away from Left back and offers nothing going forward,plus gets caught often for pace. Rab Douglas sounded dodgy again today, if he doesnt fill me with confidence,imagine what its like for our back 4. Sylla's crap and Tiatto is not much better. Levein can't see all of this, should have gone to Specsavers.
martyn Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 How Rab gets picked week upon week is a mystery
Foxes 2 da grave Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 he dont need to go specsavers he need to go north and see if hearts miss him
Durnerz Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Levein reminds me a lot of Dave Bassett, the majority of his signings were good but he couldn't get the best out of them. The quality we have in this squad is good enough to be up in the top half at least, if tripe like Chris Makin can play for Reading and help keep them up the top of the league it just shows the shit standard of this league. Under Adams we were an embarassment for the latter part of his reign here, Leveins bought the men in with the exception of Douglas and Sylla, possibly Kisnorbo, yet can't get them to concentrate for 90mins, work for each other and produce results. With the home support dwindling and sequences without a win becoming the norm i'm worried for this club.
shen Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Levein drops stearman today who has proven he can give balance on the left and support going forward, he puts back in Nils Eric Johansson who constantly gives the ball away from Left back and offers nothing going forward,plus gets caught often for pace. Rab Douglas sounded dodgy again today, if he doesnt fill me with confidence,imagine what its like for our back 4. Sylla's crap and Tiatto is not much better. Levein can't see all of this, should have gone to Specsavers. Easy to say now. Tiatto was our player of the season last year, Sylla was a very good deal at the time, and we were raving about him in the beginning. We know the lad has ability. Johansson was the best deal, but we do have a left back problem even with Stearman. I whinged when we were linked with Rab and subsequently got him, but with his credentials, I'm not surprised Levein was tempted. A full international Scottish keeper who's been first choice in the majority of his time at Celtic and played in Europe, that does sound too good to be true for a Championship side doesn't it? O'Neill picked him time after time for God's sake!! Levein has done well in the market, and I'm a lot more confident with him at the helm than Adams, Bassett or Taylor...
TornadoShaunUK Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Luckily I was at work so I didn't have to listen to all this tripe. I listened to most of the second half though. What a shite result. I would be prepared to give Levein until a few weeks after the January window. Allow him to maker a few signings and give him a few weeks to get them in and try and pick up some results and if it don't happen by then I'm afraid it probably isn't going to at all under this manager. I will not be happy if it takes us getting relegated before we have a different man at the helm. We are not a league one outfit but at the moment our results could be suggesting otherwise. We get the same disappointments game after game and I think it's about time for a change in leadership but like I said it would probably be wise to give him until just after the january window. I hope Levein takes that as a last gasp kick up the arse... if Levein wants to make it big in England I'd suggest he joins a league one outfit, preferably that won't mean taking us down there.. also, on closing, I hope to god he gets rid of all the codgers, rab, sylla, twatto, wilcox and co.
Foxes 2 da grave Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 iv spoke to celtic fans about momo and rab and they said we were stupid to buy them and they were glad to see them leave
Ultra Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Under Adams we were an embarassment for the latter part of his reign here, Well look at the league placing (in my signature) and tell me honestly we're not an embarassment NOW...
Durnerz Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Easy to say now. Tiatto was our player of the season last year, Sylla was a very good deal at the time, and we were raving about him in the beginning. We know the lad has ability. Johansson was the best deal, but we do have a left back problem even with Stearman. I whinged when we were linked with Rab and subsequently got him, but with his credentials, I'm not surprised Levein was tempted. A full international Scottish keeper who's been first choice in the majority of his time at Celtic and played in Europe, that does sound too good to be true for a Championship side doesn't it? O'Neill picked him time after time for God's sake!! Levein has done well in the market, and I'm a lot more confident with him at the helm than Adams, Bassett or Taylor... What a pile of shit, he was injured for the most part. Yes everyone was raving about Sylla but that was then and this is now, time is a good judge and time has told us that Sylla's attitude on the pitch is lazy and arrogant, he has ability yes, but like Gareth Williams, he doesnt use it. A waste of time. Douglas I was unsure of, his past reputation was good and I was willing to offer him a chance but hes proved to be a good shot stopper but with poor judgement. I'd rather still have Danny Coyne than him! Oh and O'Neill didnt pick him time after time, in fact he was an outcast under O'Neill. Adams and Bassett bought us half the squad that got us promoted, Leveins bought us half decent players,half crap players. Overall, not good enough.
shen Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 iv spoke to celtic fans about momo and rab and they said we were stupid to buy them and they were glad to see them leave They want Champions League material though, we want Championship material with Permier League potential. There's a huuuuge difference there. I've heard many more sensible Celtic fans who praised us when we took Sylla...
Foxes 2 da grave Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 they praised us because they knew what we was getting a load of sh*t on the wing
shen Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 What a pile of shit, he was injured for the most part. Yes everyone was raving about Sylla but that was then and this is now, time is a good judge and time has told us that Sylla's attitude on the pitch is lazy and arrogant, he has ability yes, but like Gareth Williams, he doesnt use it. A waste of time. Douglas I was unsure of, his past reputation was good and I was willing to offer him a chance but hes proved to be a good shot stopper but with poor judgement. I'd rather still have Danny Coyne than him! Oh and O'Neill didnt pick him time after time, in fact he was an outcast under O'Neill. Adams and Bassett bought us half the squad that got us promoted, Leveins bought us half decent players,half crap players. Overall, not good enough. I seem to recall Tiatto won player of the year last season, which is what I based my comment on. Sylla was worth taking a chance on. He only cost us wages, no fee. He's not turned out to be what we wanted, but who knows? Levein copmletely changed Gillespie, and maybe it takes time with Momo. Douglas stayed and was regularly selected during O'Neills whole reign. He had some cold spells during the end, but he was continously defended by O'Neill. O'Neill didn't buy a new keeper that could fill his shoes during his time there. Theres also the difference in what we could afford under Bassett/Adams and Levein. We might have been under administration, but the players we had were on huge salaries. We dont have that financial power any longer, and we must make do with players of a lower quality. Simple as. I think Leveins using our ressources well, and the sale of Connolly was top notch.
Durnerz Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 I seem to recall Tiatto won player of the year last season, which is what I based my comment on. Sylla was worth taking a chance on. He only cost us wages, no fee. He's not turned out to be what we wanted, but who knows? Levein copmletely changed Gillespie, and maybe it takes time with Momo. Douglas stayed and was regularly selected during O'Neills whole reign. He had some cold spells during the end, but he was continously defended by O'Neill. O'Neill didn't buy a new keeper that could fill his shoes during his time there. Theres also the difference in what we could afford under Bassett/Adams and Levein. We might have been under administration, but the players we had were on huge salaries. We dont have that financial power any longer, and we must make do with players of a lower quality. Simple as. I think Leveins using our ressources well, and the sale of Connolly was top notch. Momo Sylla has had half a season under a manager he wanted to work for, he hasnt done one noticeable thing in the league this season that justifies his selection. If Douglas was left out towards the end of O'Neills Reign then he wasnt selected regularly throughout the whole thing then. We don't have players of lower quality, we have a Goalkeeper in Paul Henderson who when called upon has been brilliant, Hughes on the right last year did well and also maybe putting Maybury or Stearman there would work just as well and keep the natural width. Levein isnt using our resources well otherwise Douglas wouldn't be playing every week nor would Sylla.
Foxes 2 da grave Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Momo Sylla has had half a season under a manager he wanted to work for, he hasnt done one noticeable thing in the league this season that justifies his selection. If Douglas was left out towards the end of O'Neills Reign then he wasnt selected regularly throughout the whole thing then. We don't have players of lower quality, we have a Goalkeeper in Paul Henderson who when called upon has been brilliant, Hughes on the right last year did well and also maybe putting Maybury or Stearman there would work just as well and keep the natural width. Levein isnt using our resources well otherwise Douglas wouldn't be playing every week nor would Sylla. agree with that 100% we can all see what hes doing wrong but levein dont
Ultra Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Levein's judgement has let him down all too often during his time with us. Today was no exception. He should have given Hughes and De Vries at least 20 minutes each, it wasn't as if there were a shortage of players having shockers today. If it wasn't for a shockingly poor penalty decision which gave us our equaliser, we could have been cursing yet ANOTHER needless home defeat this evening. I think we've reached the beginning of the end with this manager. Even our status as a Champioship club is no longer secure...
l444ry Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 I don't think people would be saying that somehow. Progress has been made in some areas but ultimately football is a results business. Luckily, there are 4/5 teams poorer than Leicester in this league so I really can't see us going down. I reckon CL knows he has to come up with something sharpish and I hope he does it. Which 4/5 teams? We've just failed to beat either of the bottom two at home.
shen Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Momo Sylla has had half a season under a manager he wanted to work for, he hasnt done one noticeable thing in the league this season that justifies his selection. If Douglas was left out towards the end of O'Neills Reign then he wasnt selected regularly throughout the whole thing then. We don't have players of lower quality, we have a Goalkeeper in Paul Henderson who when called upon has been brilliant, Hughes on the right last year did well and also maybe putting Maybury or Stearman there would work just as well and keep the natural width. Levein isnt using our resources well otherwise Douglas wouldn't be playing every week nor would Sylla. Hughes has been poor this season when he's played, but I agree Hendo should be given a chance. Name me Leveins poor signings, and I'll name you Bassetts/Adams'. The good signings Levein has made are arguably poorer than the bunch we had under the well-paid Adams period. I'm just saying Levein has a better Good/bad ratio than Taylor or Adams, taking the financial situation into consideration. Rab must have been 'good enough' for O'Neill since he didn't bother getting a new 'keeper for 4-5 years. And lastly, when I said resources, I meant financial resources, which is why I brought the Connolly deal up...
martyn Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Coventry, Sheffield Wednesday, Millwall, Brighton and Crewe are all worse. Your point about not beating the bottom 2 at home is irrelevant in this context, they are simply poorer sides.
Durnerz Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Hughes has been poor this season when he's played, but I agree Hendo should be given a chance. Name me Leveins poor signings, and I'll name you Bassetts/Adams'. The good signings Levein has made are arguably poorer than the bunch we had under the well-paid Adams period. I'm just saying Levein has a better Good/bad ratio than Taylor or Adams, taking the financial situation into consideration. Rab must have been 'good enough' for O'Neill since he didn't bother getting a new 'keeper for 4-5 years. And lastly, when I said resources, I meant financial resources, which is why I brought the Connolly deal up... Hughes ran the show away at Cardiff and he's only been given 10 minute sub appearances so how can you say hes been poor when he's bearly had a chance to impress after numerous injuries? And O'Neill bought Magnus Hedman.
The People's Hero Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Levein's team are not and never have been good enough. We have one of the strongest squads in the division, have had a bit of money to spend and still we have not won consecutive games in this division under Levein. Apart from the fact the he's obviously some sort of Messiah and perhaps deserves to be King of England - perhaps I'll get executed for treason for saying this, he's not the man for the job. About time the club peddled up some shitty 'keep the faith' slogan or suchlike to convince us that any togetherness or ideas remain.
shen Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Hughes ran the show away at Cardiff and he's only been given 10 minute sub appearances so how can you say hes been poor when he's bearly had a chance to impress after numerous injuries? True, he hasn't had many opportunities, but when he's had them from the start, or later in the game, he's been poor predominantly. I'm not saying he shouldn't be given a chance you know. I'm of the opinion that our season won't improve significantly before Hughes gets back to form and into the team. But sticking him on the right should really only be a stop-gap solution.
shen Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Hughes ran the show away at Cardiff and he's only been given 10 minute sub appearances so how can you say hes been poor when he's bearly had a chance to impress after numerous injuries? And O'Neill bought Magnus Hedman. Who was even more out in the cold than Rab
l444ry Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 Coventry, Sheffield Wednesday, Millwall, Brighton and Crewe are all worse. Your point about not beating the bottom 2 at home is irrelevant in this context, they are simply poorer sides. As a matter of fact, the point about failure to beat the bottom two IS relevant. Surely it means we are only as good as them at best. I simply haven't got your faith in the mysticism which proclaims that Leicester are too good to go down.
The People's Hero Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 As a matter of fact, the point about failure to beat the bottom two IS relevant. Surely it means we are only as good as them at best. I simply haven't got your faith in the mysticism which proclaims that Leicester are too good to go down. Damn right. I seem to remember that Forest were too good to go down.
Durnerz Posted 26 December 2005 Posted 26 December 2005 True, he hasn't had many opportunities, but when he's had them from the start, or later in the game, he's been poor predominantly. I'm not saying he shouldn't be given a chance you know. I'm of the opinion that our season won't improve significantly before Hughes gets back to form and into the team. But sticking him on the right should really only be a stop-gap solution. Whatever, would be better than having Sylla out there. We need to be working for each other and players like Sylla,Williams, Douglas don't fit into this category, look at Wigan,not the best team in the world but they work for each other and because of that they are reaping the rewards, like us under O'Neill, we didnt have superstars but we had the work rate and that little bit of quality,no 20 goal a season striker, work rate and concentration will get you a long way in football and at the moment Sylla,Douglas etc do not have that.
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