davieG Posted 29 January 2006 Share Posted 29 January 2006 No but he could not learn from the PREVIOUS GAME not to give free kicks away in such positions. The manager would have had to instruct them after Nils mistake. Kisnorbo just got suckered into it and outsmarted. Well the was a lot of doubt expressed as to whether the Kisnorbo incident even warranted a free kick. The only reason I posted that was because dan123 deemed it necessary to use it as a critical justification in Kisnorbo being rubbish, he may well be but that free kick was hardly relevant to that debate bearing in mind all our players have at one point or another been culpable for us losing a game through a single error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ithuriel Posted 29 January 2006 Share Posted 29 January 2006 bring back nicky mohan , brian carey , jimmy willis and gary coatsworth. you know it makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gené and Tonic Posted 29 January 2006 Share Posted 29 January 2006 It's a team game. We lose games because of the 11 men on the pitch, not just 1. Unless one makes a horrific individual error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 29 January 2006 Share Posted 29 January 2006 Unless one makes a horrific individual error If we convert possession into chances, and then score from the chances, one error by one player does not make any difference to the result. It's a 2-1 or a 3-1 instead of a 0-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted 29 January 2006 Share Posted 29 January 2006 Here's a recent article from the Australian press. The word 'denial' may spring to mind... Patient Patrick pleads for call January 17, 2006 FORGOTTEN defender Patrick Kisnorbo hopes that a text message from the football federation of Australia detailing the Socceroos calendar of matches this year will mark the rebonding of a fractured relationship. Leicester City's skipper wants the reconciliation to be consummated by a phone call from assistant Socceroos coach Graham Arnold telling him he's wanted for February's Asian Cup opener against Bahrain. The defender-cum-midfielder has been quietly simmering since his last appearance in the green and gold 19 months ago. And his frustration is approaching boiling point. With competition for spots hotting up as long-time casualty Craig Moore nears fitness and Ljubo Milicevic, Tony Vidmar, Tony Popovic, John McKain and Michael Thwaite jockey for defensive positions, Kisnorbo doesn't want his voice to be drowned out. "It's hurt being ignored for so long, especially not knowing why you're not involved," says Kisnorbo, currently skippering second-tier Leicester in the absence of injured Aussie teammate Danny Tiatto. "If I don't get picked then I'll know that in the coach's eyes I'm not good enough. But I just want the opportunity. I'm playing first-team football at a decent level every week and I can't do much more than that right now. "I'm available for the Bahrain game -- I want a chance to show I can do a job for Australia at the World Cup." Kisnorbo's past may have stood against him. He was sent off after 59 minutes and heavily criticised in his last Socceroos appearance -- a dire 2-2 draw with the Solomon Islands at the Nations Cup in Adelaide in 2004. He then tested former coach Frank Farina's patience by pulling out of Australia's Olympic Games squad for Athens, fearful it might jeopardise his position with former club Hearts. But his form in his first season in England, under former Hearts coach Craig Levein, makes a compelling case for a recall even though Leicester are two points from safety at the bottom of the Championship. "I pulled out of the Olympics because I was coming out of contract with Hearts and didn't know what was happening," added Kisnorbo, who possesses the mobility, pace and touch cherished by Socceroos coach Guus Hiddink . "I'm playing in central midfield for Leicester but my favourite position is at centre half and that's where I've played for Australia." On Australia's prospects in June, Kisnorbo, who has seven caps, said: "We have to go there to make some waves. There will be more teams scared of us than teams that scare us." Source The Murdoch press is obviously as reliable in its native land as it is here! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobbo Posted 29 January 2006 Share Posted 29 January 2006 No but he could not learn from the PREVIOUS GAME not to give free kicks away in such positions. The manager would have had to instruct them after Nils mistake. Kisnorbo just got suckered into it and outsmarted. Well who says it was actually a free kick? Looked very dubious to me. It's a physical game and defenders are going to harrass strikers aren't they, but sometimes get shite decisions as well as sometimes making silly fouls, but we don't know Kis's was one.. His all round play in the game vs Plymouth was very commendable, he's one of the players here that actually seems to give a shit too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted 29 January 2006 Share Posted 29 January 2006 So why was he dropped for the saints game then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobbo Posted 29 January 2006 Share Posted 29 January 2006 So why was he dropped for the saints game then? Maybe Kelly didn't fancy him in a 442, Kelly doesn't like him as a player full stop, Kelly rates Gerrbrand higher than him, slight knock, just being rested for QPR.. You tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc2k Posted 30 January 2006 Share Posted 30 January 2006 have you guys forgotten about akinbad buy or cresswel...NOW THEY WER BAD PLAYERS...REMEMBER KISSO GAVE US OUR ONLY AWAY WIN OF THE SEASON AGAINST WATFORD!!! Lay off him a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted 30 January 2006 Share Posted 30 January 2006 I'd prefer it if RK told us both... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaststandtom Posted 30 January 2006 Share Posted 30 January 2006 i think he'll do ok at centre half!!! from what ive seen when he plays there he does ok. would you play paddy mccarthy in midfield? nope question is why levein chose to play him in midfield showing him up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krishbish Posted 30 January 2006 Share Posted 30 January 2006 Kisnorbo Out!! Hes terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Posted 30 January 2006 Share Posted 30 January 2006 have you guys forgotten about akinbad buy or cresswel...NOW THEY WER BAD PLAYERS...REMEMBER KISSO GAVE US OUR ONLY AWAY WIN OF THE SEASON AGAINST WATFORD!!! Lay off him a little Cresswell wasnt a bad player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultra Posted 1 February 2006 Share Posted 1 February 2006 i think he'll do ok at centre half!!! from what ive seen when he plays there he does ok. Sounds like he had another decent game last night. Maybe other managers can get a decent game out of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimp Posted 1 February 2006 Share Posted 1 February 2006 Sounds like he had another decent game last night. Maybe other managers can get a decent game out of him! Probably more due to the fact that he's finally playing in his preferred position. Let's hope he contiues this run of good form as CB and never graces the midfield ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobbo Posted 1 February 2006 Share Posted 1 February 2006 Kisnorbo in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn Posted 1 February 2006 Share Posted 1 February 2006 He was an absolute rock last night, MOTM easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzied Posted 1 February 2006 Share Posted 1 February 2006 Kisnorbo had a great game tonight. And it was great to see him come and applaud the fans on his own despite the shit he's been given by some of them over the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookwhaticando Posted 1 February 2006 Share Posted 1 February 2006 What a difference a day makes. If only other players in the squad would turn into such a revelation by being played in their correct positions. Sadly, Sylla's correct position is right wing, so we're kinda stuck there. Well done Patrick, keep up the good work and you'll soon be a fan favorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted 1 February 2006 Author Share Posted 1 February 2006 Kisnorbo had a great game tonight. And it was great to see him come and applaud the fans on his own despite the shit he's been given by some of them over the season. you can't become a good player after one game allthough he did play quite well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-man Posted 1 February 2006 Share Posted 1 February 2006 Kisnorbo had a great game tonight. And it was great to see him come and applaud the fans on his own despite the shit he's been given by some of them over the season. you can't become a good player after one game allthough he did play quite well When did he say that he's a good player? He said he had a great game But its great to say Kisnorbo is playing well because i really felt for him when he gets boooed its disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh1884 Posted 1 February 2006 Share Posted 1 February 2006 He was an absolute rock last night, MOTM easily. Just shows what a total plank Levein is, playing him out of position and making him look like he's totally out of his depth when, played in his preferred position, he looks more than capable of doing a job for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaxx Posted 1 February 2006 Share Posted 1 February 2006 Just shows what a total plank Levein is, playing him out of position and making him look like he's totally out of his depth when, played in his preferred position, he looks more than capable of doing a job for us. I fully agree. Kisnobber has taken some real stick but he seems to have found his niche in central defence so let's give him a break and see what happens. Maybury is the real worry for me. He's had a run of shocking performances and I'd like to see Sheehan get a run out for a change, hopefully against Wolves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l444ry Posted 1 February 2006 Share Posted 1 February 2006 The criticism of Kisnorbo was and is always over the top. Why some on this forum think their opinion is of greater intellect than the Australian manager and even Levein beggars belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyh1884 Posted 1 February 2006 Share Posted 1 February 2006 The criticism of Kisnorbo was and is always over the top. Why some on this forum think their opinion is of greater intellect than the Australian manager and even Levein beggars belief. But weren't people basing that opinion on his performances in midfield? even the most ardant fans of him would probably agree that he's put in some desparately poor performances. He's even said himself that he likes playing at centre back. Surely the blame for the way he's been treated has to lay with levein who played him out of position for most of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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