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Best All-time Premiership Manager

Best Premiership Manager  

52 members have voted

  1. 1. Showdown

    • Arsene Wenger
      15
    • Alex Ferguson
      37


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Posted

Ignoring their equally repellant personalities, who for you is the best out of these two?

Or put another way, if Leicester got promoted this year and needed a new manager, which one would you prefer talk over the reins at LCFC?

Posted

Can't we choose out of all 20 :(

I was going to put Jose in, but I wanted a straight fight between the two most influential (and successful) Premiership managers.

Jose's only been around for a season and a bit, remember, and despite his instant success, he's been bankrolled by the gurning one.

I was going to put "Other" in, but we'd have Martin O'Neill on 98%, which wasn't quite what I was asking! ;)

Posted

Has to be Alex Ferguson, as he has won far more League titles and has won the most coverted prize of all, the European Cup, which Arsene Wenger hasn't.

Posted

Alex Ferguson, Alot of people hate him, I wouldn't say I like him but certainly don't hate him.

Arsene Wenger however is a person I do hate. Especially his anti-english (anti-most players who don't come from France) policy.

Barr a few players he wouldn't ever need to take over being manager of France because he is basically managing the French squad playing in the Premiership. I have nothing against France, its not my favorite country but I have nothing inparticular I don't like about France, its just the fact if your playing in a English league atleast play some english players.

A prime example which made me laugh in the week, Real Madrid v Arsenal...Who had the most English players? Real Madrid.

Posted

Alex Ferguson, Alot of people hate him, I wouldn't say I like him but certainly don't hate him.

Arsene Wenger however is a person I do hate. Especially his anti-english (anti-most players who don't come from France) policy.

Barr a few players he wouldn't ever need to take over being manager of France because he is basically managing the French squad playing in the Premiership. I have nothing against France, its not my favorite country but I have nothing inparticular I don't like about France, its just the fact if your playing in a English league atleast play some english players.

A prime example which made me laugh in the week, Real Madrid v Arsenal...Who had the most English players? Real Madrid.

If you have a look at how many of Arsenal's first team squad are French, you'll find he clearly isn't anti-all-players-who-don't-come-from-France.

Posted

If you have a look at how many of Arsenal's first team squad are French, you'll find he clearly isn't anti-all-players-who-don't-come-from-France.

Most of them however do come from french-speaking nations.... I think :unsure:

Posted

Most of them however do come from french-speaking nations.... I think :unsure:

Yep, I was gonna mention that. :ermm:

Fergie is the better manager of the 2.

Posted

How can you use that as a criticism? You must therefore criticise any English manager who signs predominately players who can speak English.

Wenger's record speaks for itself. He has often been more confined in terms of what he can spend than his counterparts and so often comes up with the goods.

Posted

How can you use that as a criticism? You must therefore criticise any English manager who signs predominately players who can speak English.

Wenger's record speaks for itself. He has often been more confined in terms of what he can spend than his counterparts and so often comes up with the goods.

Well if wenger wants to bring in loads of french/ french speaking players why doesnt he go to the french leagues?

And then we might have a chance of developing a bit more english quality in the premier league.

Posted

How can you use that as a criticism? You must therefore criticise any English manager who signs predominately players who can speak English.

Wenger's record speaks for itself. He has often been more confined in terms of what he can spend than his counterparts and so often comes up with the goods.

What would the problem with that be? If it was in an English league. My main problem with Wenger is your lucky to get 1 maybe 2 English players in an Arsenal team/subs, If he wants to manage (and this goes to Benitez or any manager who manages in England) atleast play some English players, I don't expect every team in England to play a team full of English players but Arsene Wenger takes the piss.

Posted

What would the problem with that be? If it was in an English league. My main problem with Wenger is your lucky to get 1 maybe 2 English players in an Arsenal team/subs, If he wants to manage (and this goes to Benitez or any manager who manages in England) atleast play some English players, I don't expect every team in England to play a team full of English players but Arsene Wenger takes the piss.

He has no duty to play English players. His duty is to deliver good results for him employers Arsenal FC. If he thinks that his way of going about things is the best way to achieve that, then so be it.

He has correctly identified that although top whack English players are often worth the money, the real bargains are usually to be found abroad. If you want any proof of that, look at the money which Spurs have spent over the last few years on English talent and until this season, have had relatively little to show for it.

Posted

He has no duty to play English players. His duty is to deliver good results for him employers Arsenal FC. If he thinks that his way of going about things is the best way to achieve that, then so be it.

He has correctly identified that although top whack English players are often worth the money, the real bargains are usually to be found abroad. If you want any proof of that, look at the money which Spurs have spent over the last few years on English talent and until this season, have had relatively little to show for it.

He's certainly delivering the goods at the minute ;)

Posted

He's certainly delivering the goods at the minute ;)

Well, that's a different argument isn't it?

They, Manchester United and Liverpool certainly have it all to do to challenge Chelsea over the next few years.

Posted

It's always going to be the case that if a foreign manager takes over a football club (in any country), and then proceeds to buy a large number of players from his 'home' country - the natives of the team he manages will express their disappointment and frustration, especially if they don't deliver the goods.

When Louis Van Gaal was manager of Barcelona, he was criticised for buying a load of Dutchman. The same argument applies with Wenger - especially if they don't win anything, which may begin to happen at Arsenal now.

Posted

Wenger is good but Ferguson has a better recored not just in the premiership but most competitions.

Posted

He has no duty to play English players. His duty is to deliver good results for him employers Arsenal FC. If he thinks that his way of going about things is the best way to achieve that, then so be it.

He has correctly identified that although top whack English players are often worth the money, the real bargains are usually to be found abroad. If you want any proof of that, look at the money which Spurs have spent over the last few years on English talent and until this season, have had relatively little to show for it.

For once, i agree with you on this.

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