holly Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 well surely when the trust talk to manderic u would say about the fans POV of not wanting prices of tickets and ST to go up surely he would have some sense to keep the fans on his side by not making them ridiculously priced! aslong as ST prices dont go up by about £100 then its all peachy i thinks if it does all happen when is it likely to???
Manwell Pablo Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 well surely when the trust talk to manderic u would say about the fans POV of not wanting prices of tickets and ST to go up surely he would have some sense to keep the fans on his side by not making them ridiculously priced! aslong as ST prices dont go up by about £100 then its all peachy i thinks if it does all happen when is it likely to??? This is getting a bit speculative now seeing as no proper offer has been made. But if he does go in for us, we do buy some decent players and do get promoted I would think thats when the prices will increase.
Swedging Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 I agree with you to an extent, because at home we start brightly and play teams off the park at times, and because we are ineffective going forward, we cannot score and kill them off. But when we get a goal (on the rare occasion), we then fail to press-on looking for a second to put the game beyond teams, and instead seem happy to get rid of the ball and try to soak up pressure protecting a 1 goal lead rather than go for a 2 or 3 goal win. Us doing this is what costs us many points, be it at home or on the road. I'm not saying pressing on all the time is going to win us every game, 'cos it can be your downfall and cost you points as well. But surely you can appreciate playing positively, especially after we score, will be better for us in the long run than trying to protect slender leads...? Er, there's only been one game this season (Sunderland away) where we didn't win after going one-up.
lcfc_jme Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 Er, there's only been one game this season (Sunderland away) where we didn't win after going one-up. Yeah great wow. I was talking in general terms about the last couple of seasons in regards to going one up, 2 up and throwing leads away, eventually losing or drawing games we should have taken all 3 points from. I wasn't directly referring to this season about taking the lead in games, 'cos we haven't won many and haven't scored too many goals either. Don't suppose you're gona argue with that as well now are you by saying things such as "stop living in the past" or "the managers/players we had in were just tactically/physically incapable of winning games" and such nonsense along the same lines??
Smudge Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 I don't think it's a pre-emptive missile. I certainly don't think there's anything wrong with a fans organization making noise about a situation which affects the fans - that's what they're there for, surely? Of course there is nothing wrong with the fans having a say. My point was that I think they should have waited until Milan had clearly stated his intention to become involved in the club.. At this time all this noise about him is speculation and to lay down conditions before he has made an offer seems to me to be very premature. I think a guarded welcoming statement would have been more appropriate.
lookwhaticando Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 Of course there is nothing wrong with the fans having a say. My point was that I think they should have waited until Milan had clearly stated his intention to become involved in the club.. At this time all this noise about him is speculation and to lay down conditions before he has made an offer seems to me to be very premature. I think a guarded welcoming statement would have been more appropriate. I fail to see the issue with the statement, I actually think it's not phrased at all badly or negatively towards any potential suitor (or Milan, as is the case). Besides, waiting until Milan actually declared interest was not an option - half the fans on here would be demanding the Trust tells us their opinion anyway. At least now we all know their opinion without having to knock on their door to get it. Sometimes I pity the poor Trust, they just can't win sometimes.
Smudge Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 I fail to see the issue with the statement, I actually think it's not phrased at all badly or negatively towards any potential suitor (or Milan, as is the case). Besides, waiting until Milan actually declared interest was not an option - half the fans on here would be demanding the Trust tells us their opinion anyway. At least now we all know their opinion without having to knock on their door to get it. Sometimes I pity the poor Trust, they just can't win sometimes. Clearly you were not agitated by the statement, conversely I was. From various other comments I seem to be in the minority. So we have a probable chance that Milan has read it and has similar opinion to yours but I don't think that it was worth the risk that's all; we need this guy.
Daggers Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 Why on earth has the Foxes Trust fired off a pre-emptive missile like this? Protocol would define that one should wait until he makes a proposal before making comments about conditions of sale. Very tacky! Poor buggers - slammed if they comment, caned if they don't! What's wrong with the Trust making a statement on the matter considering everyone has been asking them for their opinion and position?
lookwhaticando Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 Clearly you were not agitated by the statement, conversely I was. From various other comments I seem to be in the minority. So we have a probable chance that Milan has read it and has similar opinion to yours but I don't think that it was worth the risk that's all; we need this guy. I'm not agitated as there's nothing to cause agitation in the statement as far as I can see. I mean, the statement doesn't actually say all that much apart form an ellaborately worded "we're watching events with a keen eye - we're interested in what's going on". It's not a warning to Milan or any other suitor - it's just the Trust asserting it's position as the fan's representatives, and maintaining the fact that the fans opinions/feelings must be considered when any bid is launched. In fact, with it being a fans representative trust, it's aimed at the fans more than anyone - reassuring the fans that they're tracking the situation appropriately. Any potential investor will probably interpret it as such, too.
The People's Hero Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 Come on Meelan, just fuc king buy us, you big tart. Now THAT might agitate him.
Smudge Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 I understand the need to ensure that any investor has the best interests of the club at heart... but seriously, we're talking about an INVESTOR here - not a benefactor... please don't scare him off... Bang on Jim..............this what I'm afraid of.
Swedging Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 Don't suppose you're gona argue with that as well now are you by saying things such as "stop living in the past" or "the managers/players we had in were just tactically/physically incapable of winning games" and such nonsense along the same lines?? Couldn't really be bothered since you seem to have the nonsense market cornered. Apart from maybe pointing out you'd be hard pushed to find many connections between our current team and one of 2 seasons ago.
Swedging Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 Bang on Jim..............this all I am also afraid of. Look, there are questions about what Mandaric wants and would offer. Ripping your dunghampers off and taking him round the back of the pub may not be the best way of seeing him down the aisle, nor the best way of seeing what whether what he wants is in the clubs best interests.
Foxes_Trust Posted 9 October 2006 Author Posted 9 October 2006 Clearly you were not agitated by the statement, conversely I was. From various other comments I seem to be in the minority. So we have a probable chance that Milan has read it and has similar opinion to yours but I don't think that it was worth the risk that's all; we need this guy. The statement is to make our position clear (some fans were expressing the view that the Trust would block any takeover at all costs "in case we lost out on prawn sandwiches", which simply isn't the case. The statement is not specifically targeted at MM, but any potential interested party. From what Pompey fans have said about MM he should welcome the message "we want to sit down & talk" as he regularly met up with their fans and explained his current thinking & that's what we want to do should he launch a bid
The People's Hero Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 I don't have any problem with the press release at all. The content seems agreeable and I appreciate the need for some sort of 'press release' from the FT. But please, please, please don't scare the man off. Please?
Foxes_Trust Posted 9 October 2006 Author Posted 9 October 2006 I don't have any problem with the press release at all. The content seems agreeable and I appreciate the need for some sort of 'press release' from the FT. But please, please, please don't scare the man off. Please? We don't want to scare any potential investor off, but we do have to make sure what they plan to do & how they will finance it
Filbert_Ross Posted 9 October 2006 Posted 9 October 2006 I just hope this deal go's through, going down Leicester these days is like going work.
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 10 October 2006 Posted 10 October 2006 This is very good news. Even if no takeover eventuates, the fact that we're being targeted for the right reasons instead of the wrong ones sets us up as a good future prospect.
bigneville Posted 10 October 2006 Posted 10 October 2006 I just hope this deal go's through, going down Leicester these days is like going work. At least you get paid at work.....
Sods Posted 10 October 2006 Posted 10 October 2006 Exactly Dan it maybe somebody else might take notice
Filbert_Ross Posted 10 October 2006 Posted 10 October 2006 At least you get paid at work..... True I still enjoy going the pub before and after the game and disscussing what teams weve had in our bets, its the crap we have to watch for 90minutes which spoils it.
lcfc_jme Posted 10 October 2006 Posted 10 October 2006 We don't want to scare any potential investor off, but we do have to make sure what they plan to do & how they will finance it Which is always fair enough. What would you be looking for an investor to do?? (obviously you can't speak for the entire Trust but you can let us know what sort of things you'd be looking for an investor to do etc that would satisfy you/the trust..)
Daggers Posted 10 October 2006 Posted 10 October 2006 Which is always fair enough. What would you be looking for an investor to do?? I would be looking for concrete evidence of investment commitment, and I reckon that is the position of the Trust too. In order for them to give their backing to any potential take-over they would need to believe that any buy-out was not one in which the new owner promised much but delivered less than my postman. As a supporter I want to welcome in anyone breathing and promising cash...but I remember how Michael Knighton touted himself around clubs before seriously screwing over Carlisle, and he is not alone. I don't think such a position would scare off anybody with legitimate interests in a football club.
The People's Hero Posted 10 October 2006 Posted 10 October 2006 I would be looking for concrete evidence of investment commitment, and I reckon that is the position of the Trust too. In order for them to give their backing to any potential take-over they would need to believe that any buy-out was not one in which the new owner promised much but delivered less than my postman. As a supporter I want to welcome in anyone breathing and promising cash...but I remember how Michael Knighton touted himself around clubs before seriously screwing over Carlisle, and he is not alone. I don't think such a position would scare off anybody with legitimate interests in a football club. Knighton Matt is a similar beast. What a beast. Don't let KM anywhere near the running of OUR club.. KM OUT!
lcfc_jme Posted 10 October 2006 Posted 10 October 2006 I would be looking for concrete evidence of investment commitment, and I reckon that is the position of the Trust too. In order for them to give their backing to any potential take-over they would need to believe that any buy-out was not one in which the new owner promised much but delivered less than my postman. As a supporter I want to welcome in anyone breathing and promising cash...but I remember how Michael Knighton touted himself around clubs before seriously screwing over Carlisle, and he is not alone. I don't think such a position would scare off anybody with legitimate interests in a football club. Both fair points, I think they're all anybody is looking for from an investment. We're in need of money and if MM can give it us, then we'd welcome him with open arms. If he was lying and gona screw us over though, then we'd be fooked !! Guess a little scrutiny is never a bad thing
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