newms Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 I'm in essex currently and havent been to many games this season compared to last season when I was living in leicester so havent been able to judge Conrad. Is he good enough to be the difference between us getting 3 points rather than a draw or taking a draw rather than a loss? From the games hes played (listened to on t'internet) it seems that way but he could be performing well above himself as some youngsters do when they first come through. What are peoples thoughts?
Thracian Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 They'll be a few still believe Douglas is best and Logan far too young. Some just hate having young players in the side, unless they were drafted in from outside.
Daggers Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 I reckon he'll be good enough that sooner or later we'll accept an offer for him.
Magic No. 8 Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/index.ph...25777&st=20
newms Posted 15 October 2006 Author Posted 15 October 2006 They'll be a few still believe Douglas is best and Logan far too young. Some just hate having young players in the side, unless they were drafted in from outside. sorry, but that statement is a load of rubbish
Thracian Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 sorry, but that statement is a load of rubbish In Logan's case exactly that was said less than a month ago!.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 They'll be a few still believe Douglas is best and Logan far too young. Some just hate having young players in the side, unless they were drafted in from outside. That is the most ludicrous thing I have seen on here for weeks. I'd set up a poll to prove you wrong but it's a pointless exercise. Everyone is 100% behind Logan and you know it.
Knighton Matt Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 If we were all behind him, wouldn't that suggest we didn't trust him not to let anything past him? Damn, I'm facecious!
Fez of Mahrez Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 If we were all behind him, wouldn't that suggest we didn't trust him not to let anything past him? Damn, I'm facecious! The word Facetious uses all the vowels of the alphabet in the right order. Damn, I'm boring!
The People's Hero Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 The word Facetious uses all the vowels of the alphabet in the right order. Damn, I'm boring! What are the others? Damn, I'm boring too!
Steven Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 If we were all behind him, wouldn't that suggest we didn't trust him not to let anything past him? Damn, I'm facecious! Being facetious I don't want to be a spelling fascist.
Thracian Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 That is the most ludicrous thing I have seen on here for weeks. I'd set up a poll to prove you wrong but it's a pointless exercise. Everyone is 100% behind Logan and you know it. We'll see. There's was hardly any call for his inclusion before he arrived on the first team scene and people who'd clearly never seen him grumbled that it was "another youth player" and that he was "too young and needed experience". Also that Henderson had not done anything wrong to deserve dropping, despite his kicking and distribution being attrocious.
Maybes Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 He had some silky touches yeasterday. For example ...chesting the ball in stead of catching it.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 He had some silky touches yeasterday. For example ...chesting the ball in stead of catching it. His chest is nowhere near as good as mine. Chebtastic I tell thee
Finnegan Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 They'll be a few still believe Douglas is best and Logan far too young. Some just hate having young players in the side, unless they were drafted in from outside. Take your head out of your arse, gramps. Nobody hates seeing young players in the side. Just because you're the only one daft enough to expect King, Gradel and co' to jump straight into a starting line up without even gathering a few substitute / league cup minutes under their belt to test the water; doesn't make everyone else an ageist lover of Rab. Porter, for example, has taken a couple of seasons to slowly work his way in through friendlies and occasional appearances and he still isn't in the first team every game. And the fact he hasn't exactly taken the league by storm (though I do admit he's done alright and would like to see him in ahead of Tiatto) is testement to that slow progress being common sense. I wouldn't mind if you spoke for the majority - but you're out opinioned by many to one, and unless you're an undiscovered Jose Mourinho, I'm suspecting it's unlikely you're displaying signs of genius to outwit our lesser minds.
The Stig Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 Henderson has done nothing to get dropped, howver logan was playing brilliant in the cup so RK couldn't not play him. My opinion is he's better than Henderson who is average, and they are both better than Douglas. Logan could play at international level one day if he keeps going the way he is.
Thracian Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 Take your head out of your arse, gramps. Nobody hates seeing young players in the side. Just because you're the only one daft enough to expect King, Gradel and co' to jump straight into a starting line up without even gathering a few substitute / league cup minutes under their belt to test the water; doesn't make everyone else an ageist lover of Rab. Porter, for example, has taken a couple of seasons to slowly work his way in through friendlies and occasional appearances and he still isn't in the first team every game. And the fact he hasn't exactly taken the league by storm (though I do admit he's done alright and would like to see him in ahead of Tiatto) is testement to that slow progress being common sense. I wouldn't mind if you spoke for the majority - but you're out opinioned by many to one, and unless you're an undiscovered Jose Mourinho, I'm suspecting it's unlikely you're displaying signs of genius to outwit our lesser minds. This isn't specifically about Douglas. I cannot believe we still have fans who see any future in us persisting with our older players. One of two tops might be tolerable but week in week out I see people defending the indefensible when it comes to performance...and always in relation to older players. And you can tell me there are 20,000 disagree. But I watched the game. Hume's goals were great, Stearman scored the winner which was a terrific bonus and our commitment and closing down was okay apart from the 10 minutes before half time. But otherwise, Williams apart, nothing I saw from across midfield or from the back in a creative sense, impressed me one bit.
Cheese Me Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 Good point - I'd much rather have youth team players coming through than the dodgy OAP signings Adams made a few years ago. This does have to be done slightly gradually and one or two youth players blooded at a time but I for one am very much looking forward to Porter, Logan and Weso establishing themselves as Stearman did last year and would also love to see Sheehan, Gradel and Dodds coming through in the next year to eighteen months.
Thracian Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 Good point - I'd much rather have youth team players coming through than the dodgy OAP signings Adams made a few years ago. This does have to be done slightly gradually and one or two youth players blooded at a time but I for one am very much looking forward to Porter, Logan and Weso establishing themselves as Stearman did last year and would also love to see Sheehan, Gradel and Dodds coming through in the next year to eighteen months. I'm with you all the way but would be more excited about Joe Mattock at left back. Sheehan's got qualities but I couldn't believe Mattock's as good as he is at 16. Everyone will certainly see what I mean by an attacking full-back. No lack of energy, skill or commitment with this lad.
shen Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 I'm with you all the way but would be more excited about Joe Mattock at left back. Sheehan's got qualities but I couldn't believe Mattock's as good as he is at 16. Everyone will certainly see what I mean by an attacking full-back. No lack of energy, skill or commitment with this lad. Is Mattock the new ear-marked kid now then? You've had them all now, haven't you? Logan, Sheehan, Chambers, Dodds, Odihambo, Porter, King, Gradel, Wesolowski, Stearman, O'Grady and now Mattock, they've all had the Thrach stamp of approval. Who's next? I'm actually worried you WOULD field an entire academy team in the CCC games!
lildave3 Posted 15 October 2006 Posted 15 October 2006 Is Mattock the new ear-marked kid now then? You've had them all now, haven't you? Logan, Sheehan, Chambers, Dodds, Odihambo, Porter, King, Gradel, Wesolowski, Stearman, O'Grady and now Mattock, they've all had the Thrach stamp of approval. Who's next? I'm actually worried you WOULD field an entire academy team in the CCC games! With those names i can't see you being too worried.
Finnegan Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 Grow up. I'm as excited about the accademy boys as anyone, doubly so in the case of King, but they're just not ready yet! Granted, they do need to see games but not at this stage of the season and not in starting roles. Not yet. I don't believe Kelly is the be all and end all of football management, but I do believe that if these players were truly, truly ready then they would be in the side. He fields Stearmen, he fields Fryatt, he fields Porter, he's clearly not affraid to field babies. But have some trust in his judgement. Playing, say, Watford's accademy isn't any way near Championship level. They might look fantastic down at Belvior Drive but that doesn't mean they'd take the league by storm. Turn up and watch me play at the weekend and I'm sure I'd look like the next big thing. Fast, quick out the blocks and I know just where the goal is. Hat-trick? No problem. Just a shame I play against useless tossers who make me look good. Lesson here? Yup.
Thracian Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 Grow up. I'm as excited about the accademy boys as anyone, doubly so in the case of King, but they're just not ready yet! Granted, they do need to see games but not at this stage of the season and not in starting roles. Not yet. I don't believe Kelly is the be all and end all of football management, but I do believe that if these players were truly, truly ready then they would be in the side. He fields Stearmen, he fields Fryatt, he fields Porter, he's clearly not affraid to field babies. But have some trust in his judgement. Playing, say, Watford's accademy isn't any way near Championship level. They might look fantastic down at Belvior Drive but that doesn't mean they'd take the league by storm. Turn up and watch me play at the weekend and I'm sure I'd look like the next big thing. Fast, quick out the blocks and I know just where the goal is. Hat-trick? No problem. Just a shame I play against useless tossers who make me look good. Lesson here? Yup. I heard the "not ready yet" comment about Stearman, Logan and Porter too. In some ways I even agree with you about some needing more time in an ideal world. But we haven't got an ideal world at Leicester. My only question on any given day is are Academy players better than the alternative. Gradel blows hot/cold temperamentally but better than Low. Anytime in my view. Andy King better than Hughes. No contest to me. Mattock better than Nils. More difficult because Nils has been defending well but Mattock offers so many extras on top of basic defending. Shen asks if I'd be happy to field an entire team of youngsters? I'd be happy, for once, to field our strongest team in every position. Trouble is I don't think Mattock's even eligible according to the League rules. Looks like left-back will remain a curse for us.
Thracian Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 He had some silky touches yeasterday. For example ...chesting the ball in stead of catching it. He was momentarily concerned it might have been deemed a back pass.
Foxello Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 I'm in essex currently and havent been to many games this season compared to last season when I was living in leicester so havent been able to judge Conrad. Is he good enough to be the difference between us getting 3 points rather than a draw or taking a draw rather than a loss? From the games hes played (listened to on t'internet) it seems that way but he could be performing well above himself as some youngsters do when they first come through. What are peoples thoughts? Judging by he's recent performances very good. Defenitly a world class keeper in waiting. Best keeper we've had since Flowers
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