Joe. Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 I'm not saying I don't like Wesolowski as a player but I do think is is extremely overated. Yes he's a decent young player but he's not that special. Everyone goes on about him like he's amazing and I don't agree with this What does everyone else think?
SystonFox Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 hes been steady when he has played but i have seen nothing of excellence yet but being a young lad i do expect something soon and i hope he makes the grade with us.
Manwell Pablo Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 Harsh statement, there was a run of games last season where he was instrumental before breaking his leg.
lookwhaticando Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 He's not exactly had a decent chance to show his worth. He's only ever made about 3 consecutive starts, and he's not made all that many starts/appearances in total anyway. You can hardly discredit him on the back of almost no appearances, he's not done anything so wrong as to justify that. Whether he's overrated, underrated, or he can live up to the hype won't be proven until he's had a decent chance of showing us all what he can do. I still think he'll prove to be a very useful player for us in due course.
Thracian Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 Not that special? I don't know if you've ever been a professional footballer and then broken your leg and had to go through the physical and mental turmoil of recuperating. Imagine then what it's like to have the same problem for a second time within months and to have the thought go through you that your career could be over and almost certainly would be over if it happened again. And for all this to happen while you were a teenager. Not special?. This is the young fella whose prayed for appearance last season coincided with a run of results which saved us from the ignominy of relegation. The same results which earned Kelly the reward of a managership he never expected. I said in the summer we'd have to be doubly careful with Weso and not to rush things with him too much. It was obvious the physchological blow would be every bit as difficult to mend as the leg. That he's even got back into the team is special and with the help and support of you people, the fans, he can be even more special by regaining the confidence and then the form which did so bloody much for this club. Special? He's the chirpiest lad I've ever seen around a dug-out on crutches. And he'll look special in his City shirt before long. Bill Shankly to yours truly in the 70's: "Aye, I'll tell ye somethings aboot Liverpool. They're special. Even the way the players break their legs is special." I can never imagine that man losing faith in a player who hurt for the cause anymore than Ferguson ha with Ole Gunnar. He needs support and encouragement right now - not a kick in the balls.
Daggers Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 Special? He's the chirpiest lad I've ever seen I always thought just giving one figure for a match rating was boring ~ adding a second grade for chirpiness would certainly give those players with less talent something else to aim for on match days
Cheese Me Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 I was actually wondering about Weso earlier today. Not so much was he over rated as is he the same player after the injuries? It's a lot to come back from but I'm wondering if he is the same player he was why he hasn't forced his way into the team by now, particularly when we're struggling so much in the middle. Hope I'm wrong and RK is just protecting him as I would love to see him break through and hit top form.
gosfox Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 Not that special? I don't know if you've ever been a professional footballer and then broken your leg and had to go through the physical and mental turmoil of recuperating. Imagine then what it's like to have the same problem for a second time within months and to have the thought go through you that your career could be over and almost certainly would be over if it happened again. And for all this to happen while you were a teenager. Not special?. This is the young fella whose prayed for appearance last season coincided with a run of results which saved us from the ignominy of relegation. The same results which earned Kelly the reward of a managership he never expected. I said in the summer we'd have to be doubly careful with Weso and not to rush things with him too much. It was obvious the physchological blow would be every bit as difficult to mend as the leg. That he's even got back into the team is special and with the help and support of you people, the fans, he can be even more special by regaining the confidence and then the form which did so bloody much for this club. Special? He's the chirpiest lad I've ever seen around a dug-out on crutches. And he'll look special in his City shirt before long. Bill Shankly to yours truly in the 70's: "Aye, I'll tell ye somethings aboot Liverpool. They're special. Even the way the players break their legs is special." I can never imagine that man losing faith in a player who hurt for the cause anymore than Ferguson ha with Ole Gunnar. He needs support and encouragement right now - not a kick in the balls. Well said.....still one of our best prospects even after his traumas....
Joe. Posted 16 October 2006 Author Posted 16 October 2006 I think he's brilliant for overcoming all his injuries all I'm saying is that he's way overated as a player. I know he's young and he has lots of time to improve but I've not seen anything special YET unlike most people who see him as a special player.
Thracian Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 I think he's brilliant for overcoming all his injuries all I'm saying is that he's way overated as a player. I know he's young and he has lots of time to improve but I've not seen anything special YET unlike most people who see him as a special player. We haven't seen Weso the player this season. There were just glimpses against Macclesfield. Have patience.
Swedging Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 I was actually wondering about Weso earlier today. Not so much was he over rated as is he the same player after the injuries? I noticed a piece in the prog this w/e where he says he has acupuncture - which eases the pain a bit. Doesn't sound good.
lookwhaticando Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 We haven't seen Weso the player this season. There were just glimpses against Macclesfield. Have patience. Don't you know he's supposed to become an international superstar the second he gets back onto the pitch? Oh, and while we think about it... this is the same 'over rated' player who, despite playing no football for quite some time, still managed to get called up to his national team! He must be absolutely sh/t to be able to pull that off.
Thracian Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 I noticed a piece in the prog this w/e where he says he has acupuncture - which eases the pain a bit. Doesn't sound good. Depends who's doing the acupuncture!
Ultra Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 He's not exactly had a decent chance to show his worth. He's only ever made about 3 consecutive starts, and he's not made all that many starts/appearances in total anyway. You can hardly discredit him on the back of almost no appearances, he's not done anything so wrong as to justify that. Whether he's overrated, underrated, or he can live up to the hype won't be proven until he's had a decent chance of showing us all what he can do. I still think he'll prove to be a very useful player for us in due course. Agreed.
AyewJoking Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 When he first broke through alot of people hyped him up because he was a decent young player from our own academy. Just think how good he would be now if he wasnt set back by those injuries, probably wouldnt be here anyway. Hopefully he'll come good again.
cisono Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 Depends who's doing the acupuncture! Do you know something we don't?
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 16 October 2006 Posted 16 October 2006 I'm not saying I don't like Wesolowski as a player but I do think is is extremely overated. Yes he's a decent young player but he's not that special. Everyone goes on about him like he's amazing and I don't agree with this What does everyone else think? Haven't we already had one of these threads recently? I think most people agree that he punched above his weight last season, and he will recover fully from his injuries sooner or later and come back just as good. In due course he will become one of our must-haves.
lookwhaticando Posted 17 October 2006 Posted 17 October 2006 Haven't we already had one of these threads recently? I think most people agree that he punched above his weight last season, and he will recover fully from his injuries sooner or later and come back just as good. In due course he will become one of our must-haves. Yes. Fact of almost all threads in the forums, some days - it's almost always been done before. The last 'Weso aint the saviour' post, if I'm not mistaken, aimed primarily at Ric Flair's signature. Apparently, some people just don't have a sense of humour.
Thracian Posted 17 October 2006 Posted 17 October 2006 Do you know something we don't? Can't imagine that!
teblin Posted 17 October 2006 Posted 17 October 2006 He is going to be a very good player. But is he the answer now? Are his injuries to do with being put in to the first team to early? I have to say though, he got to be better then Johnson even if he is only half fit.
Thracian Posted 17 October 2006 Posted 17 October 2006 He is going to be a very good player. But is he the answer now? Are his injuries to do with being put in to the first team to early? I have to say though, he got to be better then Johnson even if he is only half fit. Trouble is we've not really got anywhere else to play him and rebuild his confidence. He's not helped much in central midfield which is another reason we so miss Gudjonsson.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 17 October 2006 Posted 17 October 2006 I'd be tempted to play him on the right wing in an away game. He may be no right winger but for all that Hughes or Low give us, it'd be a bonus if he managed anything constructive.
Dr The Singh Posted 17 October 2006 Posted 17 October 2006 Agree with most, he has alot of potential, but he still has to overcome his injury, some players never fully recover but given time I hope he will live upto my expectations....patience is the key!!!
Hullfox Posted 17 October 2006 Posted 17 October 2006 Quite rightly people argue the case that he has not had the chance to prove himself in the first team for an extended period and therefore cannot be classed as over rated. Yet as with other players from the youth set up he has been hyped up to the eyeballs from his performances at a lower level - not from an extended run in the first team. I think if people were less vociferous about the world beating talents of Dawson, Petrescu, Wright, Porter Gradel, Weslowski, King etc etc etc, threads like this would have no place. For my money, he looks a decent prospect and after spending an evening chatting to him at the end of last season I would say that his head is definitely screwed on the right way. However, lets let him develop at his pace and not credit him for our survival in the division last term and Rob's new found employment. That's just the sort of bigging up he doesn't need (or deserve).
Manwell Pablo Posted 17 October 2006 Posted 17 October 2006 Quite rightly people argue the case that he has not had the chance to prove himself in the first team for an extended period and therefore cannot be classed as over rated. Yet as with other players from the youth set up he has been hyped up to the eyeballs from his performances at a lower level - not from an extended run in the first team. I think if people were less vociferous about the world beating talents of Dawson, Petrescu, Wright, Porter Gradel, Weslowski, King etc etc etc, threads like this would have no place. For my money, he looks a decent prospect and after spending an evening chatting to him at the end of last season I would say that his head is definitely screwed on the right way. However, lets let him develop at his pace and not credit him for our survival in the division last term and Rob's new found employment. That's just the sort of bigging up he doesn't need (or deserve). Spot on that.
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