Back pain - isn't it the worst?

[lavrentis]

Strong stuff too... Makes you very whoozy..

Unfortunetly too they are addictive and she has a tolerance, they have been known to cause hallucinations too!

[Guest Col city fan]

Unfortunetly too they are addictive and she has a tolerance, they have been known to cause hallucinations too!

When my back was very bad a few weeks ago I thought Fook this and had a tramadol after I'd had a couple of beers. Big mistake... I was hallucinating for a good thirty minutes or so.. Won't do that again.

[lavrentis]

When my back was very bad a few weeks ago I thought Fook this and had a tramadol after I'd had a couple of beers. Big mistake... I was hallucinating for a good thirty minutes or so.. Won't do that again.

Yeah, does the Tramadol work for you though? I think my mum is on about 6-8 tablets a day

[Guest Col city fan]

Yeah, does the Tramadol work for you though? I think my mum is on about 6-8 tablets a day

Really sorry to hear about your mum mate.

The tramadol numbs everything, but I find it doesn't last very long. The only time my back don't hurt me at the moment, literally, is when I'm in a hot bath. And I can't stay there all day.

[Haydos]

My mum has a slipped disc as is on Tramadol, even with the Tramadol the pain is unbearable so I hear. She wants an operation on it so will be getting that soon.

I was told they don't like to operate unless the pain is extremely bad and is causing serious problems. I was dying for an op as well but it's spinal surgery and it's a big risk. Like I said, have a look into cortisone injections. Has the slipped disc caused pressure on her sciatic nerve? If so they can inject to reduce swelling and relieve pressure on the nerve.

[lavrentis]

Really sorry to hear about your mum mate.

The tramadol numbs everything, but I find it doesn't last very long. The only time my back don't hurt me at the moment, literally, is when I'm in a hot bath. And I can't stay there all day.

Aye, exact same as my mum She's going in for an operation soon on it which will fix it hopefully. You not thought about that?

[Guest Col city fan]

I was told they don't like to operate unless the pain is extremely bad and is causing serious problems. I was dying for an op as well but it's spinal surgery and it's a big risk. Like I said, have a look into cortisone injections. Has the slipped disc caused pressure on her sciatic nerve? If so they can inject to reduce swelling and relieve pressure on the nerve.

I think this will my next step Haydos.

Is the area very sore straight after the injection?

I've heard it bloody hurts before it starts to improve?

[lavrentis]

I was told they don't like to operate unless the pain is extremely bad and is causing serious problems. I was dying for an op as well but it's spinal surgery and it's a big risk. Like I said, have a look into cortisone injections. Has the slipped disc caused pressure on her sciatic nerve? If so they can inject to reduce swelling and relieve pressure on the nerve.

Yes it affects her daily life, she can't do much and obviously causes her an immense amount of pain.

Not sure about the sciatic nerve, I'll ask but on her back on her spine you can see all the blood vessels (almost like a tree).

[Guest Col city fan]

Aye, exact same as my mum She's going in for an operation soon on it which will fix it hopefully. You not thought about that?

I don't think mine is considered 'severe enough' mate to warrant operating on...

As Haydos said, what I've been told is that operations for lower backs are quite rarely done.

[lavrentis]

I don't think mine is considered 'severe enough' mate to warrant operating on...

As Haydos said, what I've been told is that operations for lower backs are quite rarely done.

Ah right, it affects her legs as well like shooting pains. I really feel for those with back pain

[Matt]

Wow, perhaps I should count myself lucky, mine doesn't seem half as bad as some people are saying about there's.

Mine is bareable but couldn't stand much worse - really feel for those people.

Mine hurts everyday, but it doesn't effect my day to day life as such, I need it sorting though else sooner or later it will start effecting me.

[Haydos]

I think this will my next step Haydos.

Is the area very sore straight after the injection?

I've heard it bloody hurts before it starts to improve?

I don't recall it hurting any worse afterwards but I was in agony. Couldn't move when I woke up in the morning, couldn't stand up for more than half hour or so without having to sit down for 5 mins etc. I went under local anesthetic, they shoved a needle in my back. Thought it might be weird but felt nothing. Area was numb for a while and I didn't feel any immediate difference which was a bit disheartening. After a few days though it began to fade and within 2 weeks It was basically gone and it has never come back since. That's about 3 or 4 years ago now.

Yes it affects her daily life, she can't do much and obviously causes her an immense amount of pain.

Not sure about the sciatic nerve, I'll ask but on her back on her spine you can see all the blood vessels (almost like a tree).

I think it's quite common (although I might be misinformed) that the disc 'slips' and puts pressure on the sciatic nerve which runs down the back of your legs. If she has trouble bending down very far and has pain shooting down either of her legs then it's likely this is the case with her as it was with me.

I'm basically pain free now, my flexibility with my left leg is still limited but there's no real pain so to speak any more.

[Babylon]

Wow 6 years ago. Still suffer from time to time with the odd tweak, but I think i've only had it go once or twice properly since the last post in this thread.

Mine usually goes when I'm doing the most innocuous things like brushing my teeth, or picking up a cup off my desk as work. Ridiculous!

I now sit down to brush and refuse to make tea!

Never forget the first time it went, felt like I'd been chopped in half. In bed for a week unable to move (literally). Having to pee in a bottle and unable to sit up and eat anything apart from bloody soup through a straw!!

[lavrentis]

Wow 6 years ago. Still suffer from time to time with the odd tweak, but I think i've only had it go once or twice properly since the last post in this thread.

Mine usually goes when I'm doing the most innocuous things like brushing my teeth, or picking up a cup off my desk as work. Ridiculous!

I now sit down to brush and refuse to make tea!

Never forget the first time it went, felt like I'd been chopped in half. In bed for a week unable to move (literally). Having to pee in a bottle and unable to sit up and eat anything apart from bloody soup through a straw!!

How has the pain gone, just with painkillers over time or an op?

[Haydos]

Having to pee in a bottle and unable to sit up and eat anything apart from bloody soup through a straw!!

I remember when I woke up one morning bursting to pee but I was unable to get up. It would usually take me about an hour in total to get out of bed. Just rolling and moving slightly and stretching, generally getting my back moving until I could roll out of bed and then work on standing up. So yeah, I wasn't getting to the bathroom.

Emergency pee lying sideways in bed into an empty cup. That was a shit time.

[Orkneyfox]

Back pain is horrible and my commiserations to all who are suffering but having had an infected gall bladder I think that is worse.

[ozleicester]

FAO people who have had acupuncture/know anything about it

Is Acupuncture actually any good?

I have had back pain for years now, I had alot of problems with my neck and shoulders too but touch wood I rarely have any problems with my neck or shoulder now, only occasional pains which go on there own, I got rid of those through massages, I have massages quite regular (Well i've not had one for a month or two saying that) which do help but have never got rid of the problem.

I am thinking about giving acupuncture a go, but know very little about it.

I take Glucosamine - That helps protect joints against 'wear and tear' and muscle damage, it also helps repair any damage but it's doesn't work miracles, Massages aren't really solving any problems so considering acupuncture as i've heard good things.

My Mrs swears by acupuncture.. but then she also tell me her "therapist" is a bit of all right...so she could be just enjoying his... pricks?

Its never helped me...

CHIROPRACTORS on the other hand, are living gods in my life, I went from hunched and some days barely able to walk, to a relatively "normal" person thanks to Chiro's.

Ive been seeing them on and off for 20 years and they actually change my life.

[Bryn]

FAO people who have had acupuncture/know anything about it

Is Acupuncture actually any good?

I have had back pain for years now, I had alot of problems with my neck and shoulders too but touch wood I rarely have any problems with my neck or shoulder now, only occasional pains which go on there own, I got rid of those through massages, I have massages quite regular (Well i've not had one for a month or two saying that) which do help but have never got rid of the problem.

I am thinking about giving acupuncture a go, but know very little about it.

I take Glucosamine - That helps protect joints against 'wear and tear' and muscle damage, it also helps repair any damage but it's doesn't work miracles, Massages aren't really solving any problems so considering acupuncture as i've heard good things.

Unlike many alternative therapies, there is a strong evidence base for the efficacy of acupuncture. It elicits dopamine release, a natural painkiller.

Physiotherapy is also essential.

[ithuriel]

I have and do suffer quite a bit from a number of ailments but you do learn to ignore the pain to a degree.

Depression on the other hand is something that can be hard to fight when combined with physical pain which makes me a bit bipolar i suppose, going from a nice light mood to a somewhere not very nice at times.

Sometimes just going for a long walk helps.

Why i enjoy matchdays so much, nice memories, friendly peeps, alcohol and a game of footy that takes my mind off of everything for one day at least.

[Guest]

Whilst back pain is terrible. Toothache is the worst IMHO

[Haydos]

Whilst back pain is terrible. Toothache is the worst IMHO

Toothache lasts days/weeks, not usually for most of your life.

[Guest]

Toothache lasts days/weeks, not usually for most of your life.

I must have missed the conditions for this thread. Sorry.

Back pain can last hours or days or longer. I was comparing back pain of a few days to toothache which puts "me" in agony worse than any other pain over the same period.

I am sure that there are many pains that are far worse than toothache or backpain though and I'm sorry for having posted my toothache claim.

[Webbo]

I seem to remember Tony Adams had some back problems so Arsehole Wenger sent him to a dentist in France who did something to his teeth which somehow cured his back.

[Guest]

Being as I'm on a roll. I have an arthritic shoulder that gives me pain every time I lift my arm above horizontal. I got physio (20 sessions) for it and the pain continued. Went for Xrays/sonic rays (or whateever they're called) and was informed by the specialist that it was simply degeneration and would hurt for the rest of my life.

I found after accepting this and cancelling the continuos physio sessions that the pain lessened. Of course that isn't true but whilst I believed that it could be cured the pain bothered me a lot, once I realised that it was a fact of life and would never change my brain just started to ignore the pain - and unless I particularly think about it I don't feel much pain. It's nt the first time for me I had the same with a knee - from a sports injury - 20 years ago.

I find it amazing that your brain can work in this way - and before anyone comments, I realise that I'm not talking about the same incredibly chronic pains that you are discussing, but nevertheless it's an interesting phenomena, which I've adapted for stressful situations too.

I seem to remember Tony Adams had some back problems so Arsehole Wenger sent him to a dentist in France who did something to his teeth which somehow cured his back.

Thank you Webbo.

Did you go to a French dentist after you had your teeth kicked in for facetious comments?

[Webbo]

Thank you Webbo.

Did you go to a French dentist after you had your teeth kicked in for facetious comments?

No, honest I'm sure he did something like that.

Actually there are a couple of vids on youtube about dental treatment for lumbago but they look a bit far fetched.