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I think the reason is the rest of the team started knocking in a bagful of goals, maybe the pressure of Dodds on the bench had some influence on the improvement. :D

Does that explain Rochdales 0-0 draw today? :D

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What i think might have happened, and this is just my opinion, is that the manager there may have had a look at his record and thought he was worth a pop for the relatively small wage, then when he got there found he isn't quite up to senior level, or at least isn't as good as he had hoped

Staight in maybe not but they've played four games since he's been there and he's only there for a month. :dunno:

Well if he's only there for a month then I can only agree with what hebangsthedrums' said above.

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Does that explain Rochdales 0-0 draw today? :D

No, but it perhaps explains why he finally got 15 minutes. And does rather prove my point!

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Manwell its people like you and the rest of the youth team haters that the youth of leicester never gets a

chance.

Maybe king isnt the next steve gerrard but he could well be an improvement on johnson jarett and

hughes, because lets face it 90% of people on this forum are better players than we have at the minute in midfield minus levi.

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Manwell its people like you and the rest of the youth team haters that the youth of leicester never gets a

chance.

Maybe king isnt the next steve gerrard but he could well be an improvement on johnson jarett and

hughes, because lets face it 90% of people on this forum are better players than we have at the minute in midfield minus levi.

As much as he enjoys youth baiting it has absolutely nothing to do with Manwell, oh that he had that much influence.

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As much as he enjoys youth baiting it has absolutely nothing to do with Manwell, oh that he had that much influence.

well davie G would you like to see some of the youngsters given a chance to don the senior shirt?

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As much as he enjoys youth baiting it has absolutely nothing to do with Manwell, oh that he had that much influence.

It's not youth team baiting any way, it's Thracian baiting. :D

If any one actually looks at what I write about the youth team when not winding Thracian up they will see im very complementry, I've said Dodds should get a chance and I've said I hope to see King and Gradel get a chance next season but think they should see out the remainder of this season where they are playing for the academy.

And ask for Louis Dodds at Rochdale? It's not my fault he isn't good enough to get in the team :D:dunno:

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well davie G would you like to see some of the youngsters given a chance to don the senior shirt?

Absolutely and even Manwell has stated that he is puzzled by the likes of Dodds not getting a chance.

But don't hold your breath RK didn't put them in last season when we were safe and would most definitely need them this season as in Porter so is unlikely to now with MM's money to enable purchases and loans.

I happen to believe that Kelly = gives youth a chance is a myth.

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Absolutely and even Manwell has stated that he is puzzled by the likes of Dodds not getting a chance.

But don't hold your breath RK didn't put them in last season when we were safe and would most definitely need them this season as in Porter so is unlikely to now with MM's money to enable purchases and loans.

I happen to believe that Kelly = gives youth a chance is a myth.

ahh someone here can read :D

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Absolutely and even Manwell has stated that he is puzzled by the likes of Dodds not getting a chance.

But don't hold your breath RK didn't put them in last season when we were safe and would most definitely need them this season as in Porter so is unlikely to now with MM's money to enable purchases and loans.

I happen to believe that Kelly = gives youth a chance is a myth.

Then surely something needs to be done about kellys neglect towards the younger players because some serious quality can be born out of academys and surely leicesters time to breed a superstar is neering

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ahh someone here can read :D

What's more amazing is I remebered it :P

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Then surely something needs to be done about kellys neglect towards the younger players because some serious quality can be born out of academies and surely Leicesters time to breed a superstar is nearing

i really think that if any of these youngsters get a chance this season then a lot of people are going to be seriously disappointed.

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Then surely something needs to be done about kellys neglect towards the younger players because some serious quality can be born out of academys and surely leicesters time to breed a superstar is neering

:blink: To "breed" :blink: a super star there needs to be talent there to start off with and unfortunatley if theres not the player wont make the grade. Finding a World Class player is as much about luck as judgement. There are some very promising youngsters in our youth team but people like you put them at risk more than people like me, people who think superstars are born over night , people who want them rushed into the first team so Chelsea can snap them up for 500,00 at tribunal.

Kellys negelct towards young players is a fabrication made up by Thracian this season has seen COG (before he was sold) Porter, Stearman, Logan, Welsowski and Odihambo get first team playing time. If they're good enough they seem to get a chance.

I for one have confidence in our youth coaches, people raved about Petrescu but he's playing his football back in Finland now, people raved about Tommy Wright and Stephen Dawson but it has since become clear that aren't good enough to play for Leicester City. As I've said loads of times I can't ever remember us selling/releasing a youngster and regretting it.

For these reasons I'm growing tired of seeing Andy Kings name at the top of the forum every time I log on.

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i really think that if any of these youngsters get a chance this season then a lot of people are going to be seriously disappointed.

Disappointed or not they would still like to see if they can be better than Johnson et al, if they're not then move them on.

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Disappointed or not they would still like to see if they can be better than Johnson et al, if they're not then move them on.

they may be world beaters one day, but just not ready yet.

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they may be world beaters one day, but just not ready yet.

We only have RK's view on that but then he must believe Johnson's worth his starting place so I'm not inclined to trust it thank you very much.

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I find it funny how Thracian can write that post about all the performances today when he even wasn't there. Radio Leicester isn't a reliable source when it comes to commentary.

Levi was just as bad as the others - it's got nothing to do with players not feeding him the ball.

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i really think that if any of these youngsters get a chance this season then a lot of people are going to be seriously disappointed.

Why is that? Because they might make mistakes or look a bit nieve at times?

I heard all that when Levi arrived on the scene - along with the notion that he was too small or not good enough yet Porter has created far more than any other player for us this season.

People like King and Gradel will make mistakes. But they'll have to go some to make the mistakes Johnson, Jarrett and Yeates make.

And their attacking impact is bound to be greater because those players don't really have one, any more than Hughes or Tiatto do.

So the question is, will they represent an overall improvement or not. Will they improve the balance of the team. will they increase our attacking threat.

And some might say, but will it also weaken our defence? That's the permanent excuse for not moving forward. But our defence conceded two goals today. Only three goals would have won us the match and I stated before the game there was no chance of that. One goal tops was City's hope.

Furthermore our "watertight" defence might have conceded another four and shipped a total of six.

We've conceded more goals than we've scored and that is totally unacceptable for a club like Leicester.

So all in all what is there to lose. We're in the no hope saloon with our present approach and it is just nice to realise, reading these posts, that others understand that and believe we should try to effect some change.

I don't believe those people believe our fringe Academy players are world beaters because no-one has suggested that for a minute. But one or two might show that they are just as good in their way as Porter and can make a contribution just as he has.

Either way they will gain valuable experience and we will gain valuable knowledge. And if people give them the encouragement they need at the outset, perhaps, they will more quickly gain the confidence to produce their best.

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:blink: To "breed" :blink: a super star there needs to be talent there to start off with and unfortunatley if theres not the player wont make the grade. Finding a World Class player is as much about luck as judgement. There are some very promising youngsters in our youth team but people like you put them at risk more than people like me, people who think superstars are born over night , people who want them rushed into the first team so Chelsea can snap them up for 500,00 at tribunal.

Kellys negelct towards young players is a fabrication made up by Thracian this season has seen COG (before he was sold) Porter, Stearman, Logan, Welsowski and Odihambo get first team playing time. If they're good enough they seem to get a chance.

I for one have confidence in our youth coaches, people raved about Petrescu but he's playing his football back in Finland now, people raved about Tommy Wright and Stephen Dawson but it has since become clear that aren't good enough to play for Leicester City. As I've said loads of times I can't ever remember us selling/releasing a youngster and regretting it.

For these reasons I'm growing tired of seeing Andy Kings name at the top of the forum every time I log on.

I agree 100% Why the hell would RK not play a player who he thinks would improve the team? If anyone can think of a good reason I will listen to it (not that chosen men bullshit please), but I think the fact is he does not think the young players we have are quite there yet

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:blink: To "breed" :blink: a super star there needs to be talent there to start off with and unfortunatley if theres not the player wont make the grade. Finding a World Class player is as much about luck as judgement. There are some very promising youngsters in our youth team but people like you put them at risk more than people like me, people who think superstars are born over night , people who want them rushed into the first team so Chelsea can snap them up for 500,00 at tribunal.

Kellys negelct towards young players is a fabrication made up by Thracian this season has seen COG (before he was sold) Porter, Stearman, Logan, Welsowski and Odihambo get first team playing time. If they're good enough they seem to get a chance.

I for one have confidence in our youth coaches, people raved about Petrescu but he's playing his football back in Finland now, people raved about Tommy Wright and Stephen Dawson but it has since become clear that aren't good enough to play for Leicester City. As I've said loads of times I can't ever remember us selling/releasing a youngster and regretting it.

For these reasons I'm growing tired of seeing Andy Kings name at the top of the forum every time I log on.

Well a player with no talent woudnt get in the youth academy would they ? no they wouldnt, and the rest is up to the coaching staff to keep them on the straight and narrow and teach them. and do you honestly think with Milan Manderics backing we would sella rising star for a mere 500,00 no they wouldnt

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Well a player with no talent woudnt get in the youth academy would they ? no they wouldnt, and the rest is up to the coaching staff to keep them on the straight and narrow and teach them. and do you honestly think with Milan Manderics backing we would sella rising star for a mere 500,00 no they wouldnt

Sorry what are you talking about?

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i can't say how good these players are because i've never seen them play, even if i had it would only be against fellow youth teamers. the way you're building these kids up people are expecting world beaters. as said in previous posts Kelly has given chances to Porter, Stearman, Logan and Wesolowski, surely this proves he's not anti youth.

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Well a player with no talent woudnt get in the youth academy would they ? no they wouldnt, and the rest is up to the coaching staff to keep them on the straight and narrow and teach them. and do you honestly think with Milan Manderics backing we would sella rising star for a mere 500,00 no they wouldnt

if that's the case why do so few get a contract at the end of their apprenticeship.

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Well a player with no talent woudnt get in the youth academy would they ? no they wouldnt, and the rest is up to the coaching staff to keep them on the straight and narrow and teach them. and do you honestly think with Milan Manderics backing we would sella rising star for a mere 500,00 no they wouldnt

:blink: Ermmm yes quite a few players get into various youth teams and never make the grade in proffesional football nevermind Championship level please see Stuart Wilson, Martin Fox, Jay Smedley, from our academys as perfect examples of this. Bringing players through from youth level to the first team is notoriously difficult.

And...... what :blink: ? TRIBUNAL do you know what that means? that is when Chelsea offer one of our 17 year olds a contract he accepts and they pay us compensation (Chambers and Mattock can be offered proffesional contracts by other clubs now I believe) So it wouldn't be down to MM what price we got it would be down to the court. This is exactly what happened with Scott Sinclair who is currently on loan at Plymouth from Chelsea, he was nicked from Bristol Rovers I think it was? 300,000 the courts awarded them.

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:blink: Ermmm yes quite a few players get into various youth teams and never make the grade in proffesional football nevermind Championship level please see Stuart Wilson, Martin Fox, Jay Smedley, from our academys as perfect examples of this. Bringing players through from youth level to the first team is notoriously difficult.

And...... what :blink: ? TRIBUNAL do you know what that means? that is when Chelsea offer one of our 17 year olds a contract he accepts and they pay us compensation (Chambers and Mattock can be offered proffesional contracts by other clubs now I believe) So it wouldn't be down to MM what price we got it would be down to the court. This is exactly what happened with Scott Sinclair who is currently on loan at Plymouth from Chelsea, he was nicked from Bristol Rovers I think it was? 300,000 the courts awarded them.

at 17 they can sign a professional contract so they wouldn't be able to offer them 1, mattock is still "poachable" for another year atleast, chambers might of signed a pre-contract to kick in on his 17th b'day and make his contract protected under law, dont know if he did though

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