BigGibbo Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 Does anyone think McAuley could play left back with Kissa & N'gotty at centre back & Chambers right back if we could pull that off it would be awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 I'd like to know what you mean - 'in general'? That sounds like the words of someone who has an opinion but isn't sure that he has any concrete evidence with which to back it up.Kisnorbo is quicker than McAuley. He is better in the air than McAuley (unbelievable given that he's 4/5 inches shorter). Against Watford, he marked King out of the game - who was given the job of marking King? Oh, that's right, KISNORBO. Because he is better than McAuley. I'll give you that McAuley is a better tackler though. And 'toblerone head' refers to the fact that when McAuley heads the ball, it squirts off at all kinds of crazy angles, much like it would if his head was a triangle, which is the shape of a toblerone. When Kisnorbo heads a football, it goes out and up every time. When GM heads it, it's pretty much pot luck. So Kisnorbo has a toblerone boot then! I wonder was was causing all his misplaced passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH17LCFC Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 So Kisnorbo has a toblerone boot then! I wonder was was causing all his misplaced passes Kissa plays the ball out of our defence though, unlike McAuley who just hoofs it up to a man who can't win a header. Also kissa can take the ball down on his chest and then pass it ... Never seen McAuley do that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 Kissa plays the ball out of our defence though, unlike McAuley who just hoofs it up to a man who can't win a header. Also kissa can take the ball down on his chest and then pass it ... Never seen McAuley do that before. :laugh: So Kisnorbo doesn't hoof it all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 Kisnorbo's distrubution is quite woeful for a defender of his abilities. McAuley is better at that. Kisnorbo wins more headers, despite being several inches shorter than McAuley. They both fairly good tackles but Kisnorbo scores vital goals for us. If I had to chose one, I'd chose Kisnorbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 Kissa plays the ball out of our defence though, unlike McAuley who just hoofs it up to a man who can't win a header. Also kissa can take the ball down on his chest and then pass it ... Never seen McAuley do that before. I personally don't think there is too much to choose between them they both have strengths and weaknesses, but to suggest that McAuley hoofs and Kisnorbo passes is laughable. I was one of the few people that saw something in Kisnorbo when he was playing in midfield when virtually everyone was calling for his head but passing was never one of his strong points and if anything stops him playing at a higher level that will be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_foxes Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 He is really good no doubt. I don't think he is 'the best' though & I can't think who is the best either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy G Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 He is really good no doubt. I don't think he is 'the best' though & I can't think who is the best either. Curtis Davies used to be before he ****ed off to Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH17LCFC Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 Why are so many criticizing Kissa for ? He is a solid defender and is ONE of the best defender in the league in my eyes. Yet when somebody on here slags of De Vries they get the whole ... Get off his back and YOU obvious you didn't go to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 Curtis Davies used to be before he ****ed off to Villa. Yes, Curtis Davies and possibly Dean Leacock before the sheeps got promoted. I can't think of any others but maybe Im being biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH17LCFC Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 Sam Sodje was great last year for west brom. Where is he now ? Back at reading ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 Sam Sodje was great last year for west brom. Where is he now ? Back at reading ? There is a Sodje at Wednesday, but not sure though so don't quote me on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 There is a Sodje at Wednesday, but not sure though so don't quote me on that. That's Akpo Sodje I think, the striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGibbo Posted 8 September 2007 Share Posted 8 September 2007 Sam Sodje was great last year for west brom. Where is he now ? Back at reading ? He went charlton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo V Posted 9 September 2007 Share Posted 9 September 2007 Quite a few good players left the Championship like Davies, McShane and Baird so some of our defenders have definitely shot up the list as amongst the best but I don't think Kisnorbo is the best at defending. He has s decent all round game and is great at set-pieces but i think McAuley is slightly better than Kissa at an out and out defender. The weird thing for me was to try and name 5 better centre-halves than Kisnorbo who don't play for us. I cant think of many real quality centre-backs in this division. Can anyone list 5 better than Kisnorbo?? Its not easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lildave3 Posted 9 September 2007 Share Posted 9 September 2007 Quite a few good players left the Championship like Davies, McShane and Baird so some of our defenders have definitely shot up the list as amongst the best but I don't think Kisnorbo is the best at defending. He has s decent all round game and is great at set-pieces but i think McAuley is slightly better than Kissa at an out and out defender. The weird thing for me was to try and name 5 better centre-halves than Kisnorbo who don't play for us. I cant think of many real quality centre-backs in this division. Can anyone list 5 better than Kisnorbo?? Its not easy! At the end of the day, we watch Kisnorbo week in week out so of course our view is going to be biased. I'm sure there is other teams saying their defender is the best in the division, because they don't regularly watch other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo V Posted 9 September 2007 Share Posted 9 September 2007 At the end of the day, we watch Kisnorbo week in week out so of course our view is going to be biased. I'm sure there is other teams saying their defender is the best in the division, because they don't regularly watch other teams. True. Kisnorbo is hardly high profile but is a current International so will be a bit more well known over the last 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog_4 Posted 9 September 2007 Author Share Posted 9 September 2007 do we have any top players in the division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simi Posted 9 September 2007 Share Posted 9 September 2007 do we have any top players in the division? Clemence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 9 September 2007 Share Posted 9 September 2007 I would say Kisnorbo is the best defender at the club, but i wouldn't say he was the best in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 10 September 2007 Share Posted 10 September 2007 True. Kisnorbo is hardly high profile but is a current International so will be a bit more well known over the last 6 months. Hopefully starts tommorrow against the Argentin's would love to see him up against the likes of Messi and Tevez to see how he goes. I don't get to see too many games to be honest but I would pressume he would have to be up there in the top couple on current form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 10 September 2007 Share Posted 10 September 2007 He's a decent player. I'd say he's in the top ten best defenders in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo V Posted 10 September 2007 Share Posted 10 September 2007 He's a decent player. I'd say he's in the top ten best defenders in the league. Name 9 better mate! Thats the thing, as average (maybe above average) as Kisnorbo is, a lot of teams haven't got many better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 10 September 2007 Share Posted 10 September 2007 Name 9 better mate! Thats the thing, as average (maybe above average) as Kisnorbo is, a lot of teams haven't got many better. Darren Purse Danny Mills Madjid Bougherra Sam Sodje Elliot Ward Graham Alexander Bruno N'Gotty Gary Naysmith Chris Morgan Frankie Simek Jay DeMerit Paul Robinson Leon Barnett Neil Clement I'd say those above are every bit as good as Kisnorbo, other than Paddy scores more goals than most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 10 September 2007 Share Posted 10 September 2007 Darren Purse Danny Mills Madjid Bougherra Sam Sodje Elliot Ward Graham Alexander Bruno N'Gotty Gary Naysmith Chris Morgan Frankie Simek Jay DeMerit Paul Robinson Leon Barnett Neil Clement I'd say those above are every bit as good as Kisnorbo, other than Paddy scores more goals than most of them. Yep. Would add Kilgallon and Shittu to that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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