Geo V Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 It seems that England is public enemy number one these days when it comes to sports and has been for a while. We always seem to get picked on and it goes as far back as our clubs being banned from all European domestic competitions over the disaster at Heysel. The ban then was I think 5 years and that was because one club being involved in the horrendous disaster. Today we hear of supporters being racist to black players in Europe or fans being stabbed and those concerned get little more than a slap on the wrist or at worst, playing a game behind closed doors. I get the feeling if it was English fans involved we`d get the full treatment. These days it seems common to click on the web and read Aussies having a go at our weak willed Rugby players (and then we beat them ), FIFA delegates slating England in football and saying no-one likes us and generally speaking we aren't given the respect we deserve and people want us to fail all the time. Why? Any ideas??! Political reasons or jealousy?
Milky Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 It's probably because of our large media network. All these things fill the spaces nicely.
Ric Flair Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 It seems that England is public enemy number one these days when it comes to sports and has been for a while.We always seem to get picked on and it goes as far back as our clubs being banned from all European domestic competitions over the disaster at Heysel. The ban then was I think 5 years and that was because one club being involved in the horrendous disaster. Today we hear of supporters being racist to black players in Europe or fans being stabbed and those concerned get little more than a slap on the wrist or at worst, playing a game behind closed doors. I get the feeling if it was English fans involved we`d get the full treatment. These days it seems common to click on the web and read Aussies having a go at our weak willed Rugby players (and then we beat them ), FIFA delegates slating England in football and saying no-one likes us and generally speaking we aren't given the respect we deserve and people want us to fail all the time. Why? Any ideas??! Political reasons or jealousy? If people are going to sit on the fence then they'll quite happily join the gate bandwagon as well.
Bert Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 Why do you even care? This makes it all the more better for when we win!
Finnegan Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 Where do I begin? Politics plays a big part. The Aussies, the Welsh, the Scots, the Irish, the French and the Argies all have historical reasons to dislike the English, to name a few. It might be a little bit petty, but then that's sport. I think it's largely just banter these days, although I'm not too sure about the Argies - the Falklands isn't exactly "old news" yet. In terms of the Welsh and Scots, the media is another big, big, big issue. It gets immensely tiresome having to read about England, watch England on the TV and listen to you either gloating or moaning about things that are out of our grasp. You could perceive that as jealousy, I guess, but it's a little more than that. It's not like you get Welsh or Scots news shoved in your face at every turn. It's getting better these days, regionalisation of TV channels and national newspapers is giving us back a bit of "us" time. Then you come to success. As much as it absolutely pains me to say this, and I won't make a habit of it... you're either pretty good or have been pretty good at most major sports. People like underdogs. In history, in politics and in sport - it's always the underdogs that get the cheer from the neutral, and England very rarely are. You're fairly strong at football, fairly strong at rugby, not too bad at Cricket (hahaha?) so it's not always that people want to see you lose - but they'd love to see your opponents win. Lastly, it's about attitude. I'm sure everybody thinks this about everyone else - but you're immensely smug when you're winning and immensely miserable when things aren't going EXACTLY to expectations (which are ALWAYS too high. Andy Murray? The England football team? Johnny Wilkinson? ALL overrated by your press! ) It doesn't exactly create a loveable global image. Now, those Brazilians? The Japanese? The South Korean? They know how to enjoy their games!
Bert Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 Where do I begin? Politics plays a big part. The Aussies, the Welsh, the Scots, the Irish, the French and the Argies all have historical reasons to dislike the English, to name a few. It might be a little bit petty, but then that's sport. I think it's largely just banter these days, although I'm not too sure about the Argies - the Falklands isn't exactly "old news" yet. In terms of the Welsh and Scots, the media is another big, big, big issue. It gets immensely tiresome having to read about England, watch England on the TV and listen to you either gloating or moaning about things that are out of our grasp. You could perceive that as jealousy, I guess, but it's a little more than that. It's not like you get Welsh or Scots news shoved in your face at every turn. It's getting better these days, regionalisation of TV channels and national newspapers is giving us back a bit of "us" time. Then you come to success. As much as it absolutely pains me to say this, and I won't make a habit of it... you're either pretty good or have been pretty good at most major sports. People like underdogs. In history, in politics and in sport - it's always the underdogs that get the cheer from the neutral, and England very rarely are. You're fairly strong at football, fairly strong at rugby, not too bad at Cricket (hahaha?) so it's not always that people want to see you lose - but they'd love to see your opponents win. Lastly, it's about attitude. I'm sure everybody thinks this about everyone else - but you're immensely smug when you're winning and immensely miserable when things aren't going EXACTLY to expectations (which are ALWAYS too high. Andy Murray? The England football team? Johnny Wilkinson? ALL overrated by your press! ) It doesn't exactly create a loveable global image. Now, those Brazilians? The Japanese? The South Korean? They know how to enjoy their games! Top post. And the reason why for the last sentence - No pressure from anyone.
Manwell Pablo Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 Where do I begin? Politics plays a big part. The Aussies, the Welsh, the Scots, the Irish, the French and the Argies all have historical reasons to dislike the English, to name a few. It might be a little bit petty, but then that's sport. I think it's largely just banter these days, although I'm not too sure about the Argies - the Falklands isn't exactly "old news" yet. In terms of the Welsh and Scots, the media is another big, big, big issue. It gets immensely tiresome having to read about England, watch England on the TV and listen to you either gloating or moaning about things that are out of our grasp. You could perceive that as jealousy, I guess, but it's a little more than that. It's not like you get Welsh or Scots news shoved in your face at every turn. It's getting better these days, regionalisation of TV channels and national newspapers is giving us back a bit of "us" time. Then you come to success. As much as it absolutely pains me to say this, and I won't make a habit of it... you're either pretty good or have been pretty good at most major sports. People like underdogs. In history, in politics and in sport - it's always the underdogs that get the cheer from the neutral, and England very rarely are. You're fairly strong at football, fairly strong at rugby, not too bad at Cricket (hahaha?) so it's not always that people want to see you lose - but they'd love to see your opponents win. Lastly, it's about attitude. I'm sure everybody thinks this about everyone else - but you're immensely smug when you're winning and immensely miserable when things aren't going EXACTLY to expectations (which are ALWAYS too high. Andy Murray? The England football team? Johnny Wilkinson? ALL overrated by your press! ) It doesn't exactly create a loveable global image. Now, those Brazilians? The Japanese? The South Korean? They know how to enjoy their games! Yeah, I think he's hit the nail on the head there.
Finnegan Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 Yeah, I think he's hit the nail on the head there. If anyone could...
Manwell Pablo Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 If anyone could... Although I will say Andy Murray is very Scottish. He's also come out and told us all how much he hates England before being told to shut up appolgise and remember where abouts Wimbledon is and who pays for his training facilities, he also represents Great Britain, and therefore has no place in your rant.
Dames Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 Plus half our sports fans are prawn sandwich eating up thier own arse morons.
Finnegan Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 Whatever. He's "British" number one, you all cheer for him like your prodigal son and the world of tennis just thinks he's "British" - ie English - anyway. He can blow as hard as he wants, it's the "British" public he's milking.
Manwell Pablo Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 Whatever. He's "British" number one, you all cheer for him like your prodigal son and the world of tennis just thinks he's "British" - ie English - anyway. He can blow as hard as he wants, it's the "British" public he's milking. You do relise, as much as you may not want to be, you are also British.
Finnegan Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 You do relise, as much as you may not want to be, you are also British. Regrettably, aye. But I'm not a tennis player. Were I a sportsman, it'd likely be a footballer or rugby player, I suppose, and I wouldn't need the "British" public behind me. Tennis, Motorsport and Athletics are a bit funny when it comes to support.
Manwell Pablo Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 Regrettably, aye. But I'm not a tennis player. Were I a sportsman, it'd likely be a footballer or rugby player, I suppose, and I wouldn't need the "British" public behind me. Tennis, Motorsport and Athletics are a bit funny when it comes to support. ah yes, finners the Welsh wizard up front. The Foxestalk O21 side actually was set to have qutie an impressive international make up until half of them didn't turn up.
Finnegan Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 We need to do that again before the summer. Make it bi-annual! It was a lot of fun. Look into the possibility of a winter game, it's far more fun playing in rain anyway - right? I guess it's harder finding a pitch in winter, mind?
The People's Hero Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 ah yes, finners the Welsh wizard up front.The Foxestalk O21 side actually was set to have qutie an impressive international make up until half of them didn't turn up. I'm actually from some random war torn country on the west coast of Africa. France picked me up and relocated me as a potential international football player then dumped me in Maidstone when they realised I'm a lazy scrote.
Manwell Pablo Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 We need to do that again before the summer. Make it bi-annual! It was a lot of fun. Look into the possibility of a winter game, it's far more fun playing in rain anyway - right? I guess it's harder finding a pitch in winter, mind? It's just impossible most people are at the football on Saturdays, I mean if we get dumped out of the FA cup in the third round then doing it on Fourth round day could be possible.
The People's Hero Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 It's just impossible most people are at the football on Saturdays, I mean if we get dumped out of the FA cup in the third round then doing it on Fourth round day could be possible. Can we do it in Maidstone this time? Actually, fu ck it, let's do it at the Walkers. Milan will allow us.
Finnegan Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 It's just impossible most people are at the football on Saturdays, I mean if we get dumped out of the FA cup in the third round then doing it on Fourth round day could be possible. A Sunday? Some point over the Christmas holiday? City got any early / late / Sunday fixtures for the TV coming up over the winter months? An international break?
Manwell Pablo Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 I'm actually from some random war torn country on the west coast of Africa. France picked me up and relocated me as a potential international football player then dumped me in Maidstone when they realised I'm a lazy scrote. I reckon Nas (Samir Nasri) was actually born in one african country or another, I might be wrong I but I thought he said something about it, Alex was making noises about coming (Swis) plus Blue Blood claims some sort of Indian connection. Along with Finners the Welshman they made up a very interntional looking Foxestal O21 squad. Of course when none of the basterds turned we were left with 11 larger swilling lay abouts.
Finnegan Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 Surely, Tomassi is from Turin, Milan, Rome or some such tropicanna?
The People's Hero Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 I'm from Maidstone. That's pretty exotic and foreign considering the came was in Lestoh. I believe ManPab had big problems getting my work permit through actually. Believe it arrived on the morning of the match - then of course I had to get clearance from my national coach to play and then sort arrangements with my sponsors.
Finnegan Posted 8 October 2007 Posted 8 October 2007 I'm from Maidstone. That's pretty exotic and foreign considering the came was in Lestoh.I believe ManPab had big problems getting my work permit through actually. Believe it arrived on the morning of the match - then of course I had to get clearance from my national coach to play and then sort arrangements with my sponsors. And arrive fashionably late with Morrocon-Australian dual national, Fezalowski, in tow.
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