Player Priority

[Mr Happy]

So we're almost at the mid point of this season and I think its safe to say its been disappointing once again but the one thing which has been bugging me all season is the order in which players are picked. I don't believe some of the decisions regarding players and for the life of me don't understand why they were done either!

Under Allen, you had De Vries who had been training hard and looked better than he previously had for us until he was dropped by megson in favour of Cort (fair to say he isn't anybodies flavour of this month. . . or any month for that matter!)

In fact most of these terrible decisions were made during the megson reign such as: Chambers & Kenton, both playing out of position when we had Kish on loan at leeds who we should have called back and Kaebi (or even Ferriera or Hellings) who could have been brought into first team action (I know theres several topics on this but it could have happened) and now we have Newton (whos playing shite but for some reason both him and Cort are ahead of N'Gotty!?!) on the right wing, when we should be using somebody a damn sight better there (hume) topped off with a shortage of strikers who are any good or can actually score, so we bung the inexperienced Sappleton and Chambers on, when De Vries is out on loan. Why not recall him?

I know players have to fit into a formation but how can you, seriously tell me that N'Gotty is an unused sub when Newton and Cort can both start games!?! Something there isn't right me thinks

[Chairman of the Bored]

Ollie's gone back to 4-4-2 which has pushed Bruno out. On the basis he's going for youth, his choice is made, I guess. I agree though, N'Gotty has done well all season and it seems to be a waste of a good player.

[WetFlannel]

so we bung the inexperienced Sappleton and Chambers on, when De Vries is out on loan. Why not recall him?

do we really need to recall him with hume, fryatt, john, campbell and cort... just need to get over a few injuries and we'll be back up and running... not that we ever were

[Mr Happy]

do we really need to recall him with hume, fryatt, john, campbell and cort... just need to get over a few injuries and we'll be back up and running... not that we ever were

Well I was working on the basis that John won't be with us for too much longer (maybe. . maybe not) Fryatt's been struggling for most of this season, Hume's IMO better on the wing than up front, Campbells injured currantly though it goes without saying once hes back he would have to either start or go on the bench and Cort.. well I've already stated what I think of him in my first post.

[General Smuts]

Well I was working on the basis that John won't be with us for too much longer (maybe. . maybe not) Fryatt's been struggling for most of this season, Hume's IMO better on the wing than up front, Campbells injured currantly though it goes without saying once hes back he would have to either start or go on the bench and Cort.. well I've already stated what I think of him in my first post.

Basically right i spose but De Vries is a plank. Hes absolutely attrocious unless at home to Watford. The job he does can easily be passed to the big man some call the Sapplezilla. And Chambers is a young version of Hume plenty capable of doing his job.

No need for De Vries or Cort/Hammond really, get rid and leave it to the young lads to get there chance. We've got Dj, Hume, Fryatt and Sappleton/Chambers/Odihambo (when returned) who are bench ready impact players with the likes of Kee and McKay waiting in the wings also.

I think were fine tbh although i do believe we should keep John or if we cant at least replace him with a striker of his quality. Then all shall be good in this hood.

Oh my god i just discussed Leicester at depth in the Leicester thread. fook this im back off to General Chat

[Kilworthfox]

do we really need to recall him with hume, fryatt, john, campbell and cort... just need to get over a few injuries and we'll be back up and running... not that we ever were

I would have without a doubt

[SamL]

I would have without a doubt

I didn't boo Cort on saturday but I believe De Vries offers us more.

[Staf]

I would rather see De Vries than Cort because i love watching De Vries he makes me laugh especially in the warm when he hammers every shot over the bar

[maddog]

De Vries was great at the start of the season, had bags of confidence and was scoring, hell remember that amazing half volley he did that hit the bar against Blackpool. I see no confidence in Cort and he doesn't get any shots on goal. Hume used to put effort in and score, now he puts effort in and cant score. Is he really good enough? Fryatt has had a few good games but most awful and i think he's a fat lazy waste of space. Its good Chambers and Sappleton are being introduced but they don't have the experience, but i hate the word 'experience' especially when it comes to football. Who gives a fook about experience, how will players get experience? Campbell has shone sometimes but has looked a little de motivated on occasions, another confidence player. If Cort is given confidence im sure he will be great. Of course it won't happen but if every of the 20000 home fans just sung his name randomly, he would feel wanted and probably score.

We do have a bit of a striker crisis, a lot of average strikers none of which can score. Id be for bringing De Vries back and for Leicester signing a real goalscorer in January. But where do Leicester get a goalscorer? How the fook do i no im not a scout

Yes so far an extremely disappointing league campaign, but ive seen some amazing cup matches so a good season so far just shit in the league.

[Daz.I]

I didn't boo Cort on saturday but I believe De Vries offers us more.

I Agree Get De Vries Back while we can we're looking at 15 goals a season and atleast 10 assist

[Ultra]

Basically right i spose but De Vries is a plank. Hes absolutely attrocious unless at home to Watford. The job he does can easily be passed to the big man some call the Sapplezilla.

Not according to Saturday's evidence..

And Chambers is a young version of Hume plenty capable of doing his job.

See above..

No need for De Vries or Cort/Hammond really, get rid and leave it to the young lads to get there chance. We've got Dj, Hume, Fryatt and Sappleton/Chambers/Odihambo (when returned) who are bench ready impact players with the likes of Kee and McKay waiting in the wings also.

Odihambo is back already.

I think we're fine tbh although i do believe we should keep John or if we cant at least replace him with a striker of his quality. Then all shall be good in this hood.

There's no point in keeping John if he can't stay fit. We have enough unfit strikers already.

[reynard]

It doesn't matter who plays up front the stark truth is that not one of them is good enough to get us out of this league. We don't creat chances and even when we do our forwards can't score.

Cort never been any good not fit and basically a knackered wreck. no pace can't jump can't shoot can't score outside 6 yard box.

DJ Poor first touch. never seems to read the game. No good in the air might score in the 6 yard box but never gets there and never goes near post. Not brave enough.

Fryatt Good quick feet but so so slow. Not good in the air. can create space but will he score the required number of goals? I don't think so.

Hume Our best player for the last couple of seasons but despite a good goalscoring record he is inconsistent. He scores in batches of games and then goes ages without any goals at all.

Hammond Goal scoring record dire. offers genuine pace but very little else. Offside too often no decent first touch. Simply not good enough for thi division.

Collins John Not our player but can't sem to stay fit. looked ok but nothing more than that. can't really see us wanting to sign him or him wanting to come here. Likely target for Bolton?

Sappleton no experience and looked miles away from being good enough on Saturday.

Chambers pacy and direct but no experience.

Odhiambo didn't exactly set the world on fire at Southend? probably not ready.

De vries on loan and enough said about him. One good game every now and then but not good enough though probably as good as anything else we have.

May have mssed someone but there we have the problem. Our strikeforce simply will not score enough goals to get us to the top 6. Just showed that Southampton could have Raziak and Saganowski? on the bench and still beat us. both better than any of our strikers.

[ceebeefox]

What a top, top post absolutely spot on, why some fans think that just because we have heard of them because we have to watch 'em every week,that they are good enough to get us out of this league. Trust me the day we rise up out of this division l don't think there will be one player from the midfield through to the forwards who will play in that promotion game.

Although l could never boo our own l am sick of all of them and do not have a favourite player right now.

It doesn't matter who plays up front the stark truth is that not one of them is good enough to get us out of this league. We don't creat chances and even when we do our forwards can't score.

Cort never been any good not fit and basically a knackered wreck. no pace can't jump can't shoot can't score outside 6 yard box.

DJ Poor first touch. never seems to read the game. No good in the air might score in the 6 yard box but never gets there and never goes near post. Not brave enough.

Fryatt Good quick feet but so so slow. Not good in the air. can create space but will he score the required number of goals? I don't think so.

Hume Our best player for the last couple of seasons but despite a good goalscoring record he is inconsistent. He scores in batches of games and then goes ages without any goals at all.

Hammond Goal scoring record dire. offers genuine pace but very little else. Offside too often no decent first touch. Simply not good enough for thi division.

Collins John Not our player but can't sem to stay fit. looked ok but nothing more than that. can't really see us wanting to sign him or him wanting to come here. Likely target for Bolton?

Sappleton no experience and looked miles away from being good enough on Saturday.

Chambers pacy and direct but no experience.

Odhiambo didn't exactly set the world on fire at Southend? probably not ready.

De vries on loan and enough said about him. One good game every now and then but not good enough though probably as good as anything else we have.

May have mssed someone but there we have the problem. Our strikeforce simply will not score enough goals to get us to the top 6. Just showed that Southampton could have Raziak and Saganowski? on the bench and still beat us. both better than any of our strikers.

[Boycie]

so we bung the inexperienced Sappleton and Chambers on

These players are only going to become experienced if we play them though

[General Smuts]

Not according to Saturday's evidence..

See above..

There still young and learning give them more than 15 minutes in 1 game.

Odihambo is back already.

Apologies was guessing, assume hollways not had time to look at him yet then.

There's no point in keeping John if he can't stay fit. We have enough unfit strikers already.

He's 22 and a proven goalscorer once he has a few games under his belt his fitness will come back and the goals will come.

[Father Ted]

• We need to sign up Fulop permanently
  
• Bruno should be in the team instead of Mcauley
  
• A new central midfielder - Clemence just doesn't fit the bill and King still inexperienced
  
• 1/2 New Wingers - As it's 4-4-2 this is a priority although Sheehan can play on the left, we still need wingers.
  
• 1/2 new strikers - If John leaves, Hume possibly on the wing, Fryatt, Dj and Cort simply not good enough then who is there?
  

[Leicester's 12th Man]

Strongest Squad when fit:

Fulop

Stearman -------- McAuley ----- Kisnorbo -------- Mattock

Hume -------- Wesolowski ----- Clemence -------- Sheehan

Fryatt ----- DJ

As you see we have Hume playing out of position and to some Sheehan aswell.

For January the main thing is bringing in at least 3 players.

1 - RW

2 - ST

3 - CM

All must be of a 'Top 4 Championship standard'

I feel that this is the only way to get anything out of the 2007/08 season.

[Cheese Me]

Strongest Squad when fit:

Fulop

Stearman -------- McAuley ----- Kisnorbo -------- Mattock

Hume -------- Wesolowski ----- Clemence -------- Sheehan

Fryatt ----- DJ

As you see we have Hume playing out of position and to some Sheehan aswell.

For January the main thing is bringing in at least 3 players.

1 - RW

2 - ST

3 - CM

All must be of a 'Top 4 Championship standard'

I feel that this is the only way to get anything out of the 2007/08 season.

Agree, except would have Chambers in for Stearman and John for DJ.

One point though, aside from DJ and Fulop who are on loan only Clemence is one of our 'new' signings.

[danny.]

DJ isn't on loan.

[Alexikokopops]

Agree, except would have Chambers in for Stearman and John for DJ.

One point though, aside from DJ and Fulop who are on loan only Clemence is one of our 'new' signings.

We paid £1.6million for DJ, possibly rising to £2.1 million, I hope he's not just on bloody loan!

[Thracian]

It doesn't matter who plays up front the stark truth is that not one of them is good enough to get us out of this league. We don't creat chances and even when we do our forwards can't score.

Cort never been any good not fit and basically a knackered wreck. no pace can't jump can't shoot can't score outside 6 yard box.

DJ Poor first touch. never seems to read the game. No good in the air might score in the 6 yard box but never gets there and never goes near post. Not brave enough.

Fryatt Good quick feet but so so slow. Not good in the air. can create space but will he score the required number of goals? I don't think so.

Hume Our best player for the last couple of seasons but despite a good goalscoring record he is inconsistent. He scores in batches of games and then goes ages without any goals at all.

Hammond Goal scoring record dire. offers genuine pace but very little else. Offside too often no decent first touch. Simply not good enough for thi division.

Collins John Not our player but can't sem to stay fit. looked ok but nothing more than that. can't really see us wanting to sign him or him wanting to come here. Likely target for Bolton?

Sappleton no experience and looked miles away from being good enough on Saturday.

Chambers pacy and direct but no experience.

Odhiambo didn't exactly set the world on fire at Southend? probably not ready.

De vries on loan and enough said about him. One good game every now and then but not good enough though probably as good as anything else we have.

May have mssed someone but there we have the problem. Our strikeforce simply will not score enough goals to get us to the top 6. Just showed that Southampton could have Raziak and Saganowski? on the bench and still beat us. both better than any of our strikers.

Can't see Holloway offering you a job in his motivational psychology team.

[Chimp]

So we're almost at the mid point of this season and I think its safe to say its been disappointing once again but the one thing which has been bugging me all season is the order in which players are picked. I don't believe some of the decisions regarding players and for the life of me don't understand why they were done either!

Under Allen, you had De Vries who had been training hard and looked better than he previously had for us until he was dropped by megson in favour of Cort (fair to say he isn't anybodies flavour of this month. . . or any month for that matter!)

In fact most of these terrible decisions were made during the megson reign such as: Chambers & Kenton, both playing out of position when we had Kish on loan at leeds who we should have called back and Kaebi (or even Ferriera or Hellings) who could have been brought into first team action (I know theres several topics on this but it could have happened) and now we have Newton (whos playing shite but for some reason both him and Cort are ahead of N'Gotty!?!) on the right wing, when we should be using somebody a damn sight better there (hume) topped off with a shortage of strikers who are any good or can actually score, so we bung the inexperienced Sappleton and Chambers on, when De Vries is out on loan. Why not recall him?

I know players have to fit into a formation but how can you, seriously tell me that N'Gotty is an unused sub when Newton and Cort can both start games!?! Something there isn't right me thinks

What do you expect managers to do when they have players out injured?

When Megson was here he had virtually the whole of our midfield out injured, hence the appearance of Chambers, Newton and Kenton. We know the reasons why Kaebi, Ferriera or Hellings haven't played, they're either injured, no match fit or plain rubbish.

Now Ollie is faced with a similar situation with our strikeforce, hence the appearance of Cort, Sappleton and Chambers.

Why would we bring back a player (MDV) who has failed to prove himself for the past two years while, either at this club, or out on loan? So, he had one good game against Watford, it means nothing. I'd much rather see players like Chambers and Sappleton getting first team experience, at least then we're trying to build for the future.

[Mr Happy]

What do you expect managers to do when they have players out injured?

When Megson was here he had virtually the whole of our midfield out injured, hence the appearance of Chambers, Newton and Kenton. We know the reasons why Kaebi, Ferriera or Hellings haven't played, they're either injured, no match fit or plain rubbish.

Now Ollie is faced with a similar situation with our strikeforce, hence the appearance of Cort, Sappleton and Chambers.

Why would we bring back a player (MDV) who has failed to prove himself for the past two years while, either at this club, or out on loan? So, he had one good game against Watford, it means nothing. I'd much rather see players like Chambers and Sappleton getting first team experience, at least then we're trying to build for the future.

Given that players get injured and need to be replaced by others, who then in return get themselves injured and so continues the chain of injuries and players then being used in positions their not used to. But this doesn't excuse any reason as to why Holloway put Cort in a starting place (as he was apparantly near death) instead of Sappleton or A. Chambers in his bid to build for the future!?!

And on the issue on MDV he'll more than likely be leaving us this summer whereas Cort will be with us for another 2years(?) maybe. If it is 2 years then during this time I seriously doubt that Cort will do any better than MDV as done whilst in a city shirt to be quite frank.