Fat Ron Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 holloway,because of the job he did with plymouth he got the best out of the players but he doesnt seem to be geting the most out of these players With low confidence these players wouldnt perform for anyone at the minute. They need an injection of life....fresh faces!! he has lost respect from them for publicly saying he is geting half a team in jan Megson said the same thing so that doesnt work...? I know a player at the club who is on the fringes Who? and he says morale is lower than when allen was there Well it would be, it was pre Season when Allen was here!!! hollway really fooked up in that interview when he said theres loads of deadwood at the club,why he couldnt of just got on with it insted of attention seeking i dont know Ok, first off, Ollie is right, there is dead wood here, Secondly, At what point has Ollie been attention seeking?
Simi Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 The players simply aren't good enough. Anyone who thinks they are really does need there head checking. Most of them out there yesterday only just stayed up in this league. Not a lot has changed since then. The signings made in the summer were very bad considering the amount of them we signed. Give Ollie his own players and he will sort this out. Without a doubt. The twats calling for his head last night need to have a look at themselves and think why that would help us in the slightest.
Raj Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 The players simply aren't good enough. Anyone who thinks they are really does need there head checking. Most of them out there yesterday only just stayed up in this league. Not a lot has changed since then. The signings made in the summer were very bad considering the amount of them we signed.Give Ollie his own players and he will sort this out. Without a doubt. The twats calling for his head last night need to have a look at themselves and think why that would help us in the slightest. People ALREADY calling for Ollies head yday??? Thats shocking.
Fat Ron Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 People ALREADY calling for Ollies head yday???Thats shocking. I wasnt aware of that either. Whats the point? What if they won the battle and he left were would we be?? Idiots.
Babylon Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 holloway,because of the job he did with plymouth he got the best out of the players but he doesnt seem to be geting the most out of these players, he has lost respect from them for publicly saying he is geting half a team in jan.I know a player at the club who is on the fringes and he says morale is lower than when allen was there because of this,hollway really fooked up in that interview when he said theres loads of deadwood at the club,why he couldnt of just got on with it insted of attention seeking i dont know Rubbish
WetFlannel Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 Its amazing how unsympathetic we were towards megson, yet were all ready to put the blame on the players when Holloway arrives...
Geo V Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 The players simply aren't good enough. Anyone who thinks they are really does need there head checking. Most of them out there yesterday only just stayed up in this league. Not a lot has changed since then. The signings made in the summer were very bad considering the amount of them we signed.Give Ollie his own players and he will sort this out. Without a doubt. The twats calling for his head last night need to have a look at themselves and think why that would help us in the slightest. You are right about those moaning at Ollie already, sheer madness but I think some of the players we have are simply under-achieving and not necessarily not good enough mate. Players like Cort and Newton haven't been right for ages and were very risky signings but I suppose they were free and worth a punt? The likes of Chambers was offered an improved deal at Watford, N`Gotty was offered a one year deal at Brum but wanted longer and Clemence couldn't get guaranteed first team football so left despite being both fans and players player of the year in a good side. Even DJ was being chased by a few clubs and his record wasn't bad at Brum considering he wasn't a regular starter so all in all some decent players are performing poorly. Even last seasons better players like Weso and Hume have hardly set the world alight although the latter is finding some form. The players need a kick up the backside as they are not performing anywhere near there potential but i wouldn't sling them all ion teh scrapheap thats for sure!
Babylon Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 Its amazing how unsympathetic we were towards megson, yet were all ready to put the blame on the players when Holloway arrives... We??? I wasn't... i've been blaming the bloody players since the days of Levein.
The Stig Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 You cannot possibly blame Holloway, he's been here 6 games and is managing Martin Allen's team, which no one can do a good job with. I said this on my text on Radio Leicester last night which got read out, quite proud of myself
Micky Ruddle Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 Players. If they can't be bothered to perform, then i blame them. The manager is doing his job, and if the players are not up to doing it on the pitch, then the players should be blamed, soley on their performances. But then again...if the manager's not kicking them up the back side....then his fault i suppose..
Dr The Singh Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 We??? I wasn't... i've been blaming the bloody players since the days of Levein. I've always said we've got a shit squad, a much of a muchness, especially the midfield!!
Micky Ruddle Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 You cannot possibly blame Holloway, he's been here 6 games and is managing Martin Allen's team, which no one can do a good job with. I said this on my text on Radio Leicester last night which got read out, quite proud of myself Yes Chris. I actually heard this being read out by Charlie Dagnall. And Raj's letter in the SportsMail in the Mercury
The Stig Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 Yes Chris. I actually heard this being read out by Charlie Dagnall. And Raj's letter in the SportsMail in the Mercury Sssshhhhh, STIG, Clarkson'll be fuming at me
gosfox Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 Confidence I think is the key.... to be honest i dont think that all the players are really that bad, not at this level anyway, true there has been some dodgy signings but with the size of the squad we possess we should be in a better position than we are.... the thing that worries me is the fact that we do have some experienced players in the squad that seem to have had the confidence squeezed out of them by a number of factors.....ie the constant managership changes, fear of losing (at home especially) the crowd getting on there backs, constantly being told that they are not good enough etc etc.... if we bring in new players in Jan how long will it take before there confidence evaporates as well??? Thats the trouble with confidence, its very hard to get, even harder to sustain but bloody easy to loose!!
Micky Ruddle Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 Sssshhhhh, STIG, Clarkson'll be fuming at me Who's Clarkson
CupidStunt Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 I dont think its about blaming anyone, The crap players cant be blamed for being crap,most of them are crap,and thats the end of it,they just dont belong in the team that we are looking for. The manager cant be blamed for having crap players,he didnt sign any of them, In the results that havent gone for us,i doubt there is much he could have done any different that would have changed that Personally i think Ollie is the man for the job,he will keep us up this year,and next season will be in for a shout of the play-offs For anyone to suggest that the manager is at fault,must be off there Fooking rocker,he has a couple of decent strikers,and a couple of half decent centerbacks,a shit selection of midfielders,none of which have any guile,and shit load of dodgy left/right backs,and oh, and a decent goalie,who isnt even ours I always ask myself Q...."Which and how many of our players would any other championship side wish to sign?" A....."Not fooking many" Lets get behind Ollie,less of the whinging,he will come good for sure
Raj Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 Yes Chris. I actually heard this being read out by Charlie Dagnall. And Raj's letter in the SportsMail in the Mercury Always talks bollocks sense! I dont think its about blaming anyone,The crap players cant be blamed for being crap,most of them are crap,and thats the end of it,they just dont belong in the team that we are looking for. Thats a load of CRAP!!!!!!
The Stig Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 Who's Clarkson Jeremy, off Top Gear, where The Stig is from.
Thracian Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 Who's to blame can be discussed for ever. But what I'm sure of is that this club will be the making or breaking of Holloway an I'm not surprised he's knackered already. Holloway is an Allen type. Managerially he's a motivator and for that to work he needs support, confidence and momentum. The question I'd ask is "have we really got any choice in backing the bloke?" Holloway and MM will be discussing who they want in January and will presumably already be sounding those people out - always assuming we're not going to have a repeat of last season's anti-climax. If the worst happens and the team nosedives in the next few matches do we really need another manager and, if so, will he really have the time to identify and sound out yet another new set of players to be rounded up in January? I doubt it. And if not then what possible benefit is there in rubbishing our manager and our players? This club may prove too big for Holloway. Already it is testing his talents. But we CAN help him. We can show that we back him in affecting change even if the policy backfires on occasions. Clubs like Ipswich seem to mix good football with winning results and it's not so long ago that Ipswich looked the most woeful side I've seen down here for ages. Fans, just as much as Holloway, need to keep their nerve. Positive football is all about imposing our game on the opposition and you cannot do that if our team, our manager and our supporters are all doubting each other. especially when the officials are playing silly buggers. It's never easy because fans think differently but we need to unite behind Holloway or else the guy could lose his own self-belief and we'd be the ones to suffer. Either way, I've a feeling the strains of The Great Escape might well need to be even more passionate and prolonged this season than last.
l444ry Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 Put it this way.....Gary Megson only lost 2 of the 9 games he had as boss. So it shows that it can be done. In fact, the demise in form is because the defensive organisation Megson put into the side has finally disappeared with time as following managers decide other areas of the team require more attention. The Chelsea result was because of the work Megson did. Just a shame there were so many "fans" who, at the time, let that get in the way of their expert judgement: "Gerry Taggart's blue and white army"...... my arse. No wonder he bailed out.
Matt Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 holloway,because of the job he did with plymouth he got the best out of the players but he doesnt seem to be geting the most out of these players, he has lost respect from them for publicly saying he is geting half a team in jan.I know a player at the club who is on the fringes and he says morale is lower than when allen was there because of this,hollway really fooked up in that interview when he said theres loads of deadwood at the club,why he couldnt of just got on with it insted of attention seeking i dont know But again it's the same as my view of booing, IF Holloway has publicly said he is getting half a team in January (Which i'd like to see this as a quote from him, I havn't seen it) If I was a player, I'd see that as a motivation by thinking "Shit, The chances are I could be replaced here, better pull my finger out and start playing" But no, there sensitive souls aren't they...Bless "Holloway really fooked up in that interview when he said theres loads of deadwood at the club" - It's only the truth.
Super Arj Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 Now, i would try to blame this seasons disaster on Carl Cort but hes just one in a list of crap bags... The problem isnt the manager.. Ollie is fine... and weve proved this by hiring 4 other managers.. the results were the same We cant blame Milan because he funded Martin Allen when the window was open.. and he cant do much more till January So it has to be the twats that get payed thousands a week to play football But you can tell some are trying their haredest, the ones who actually care about the club ( hume, sheehan.. a few others) everyone keeps going on about leicesters amazing effort but i really disagree I think if all our team gave 110% every game we would be in the play offs who do you think is to blame post your veiws
Simi Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 I think if all our team gave 110% every game we would be in the play offs I guarantee we wouldn't be.
Nath Posted 12 December 2007 Posted 12 December 2007 Not enough quality for mid table, yet alone plays offs. At 200% effort that is.
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