Worst Leicester team I've ever seen

[Mack]

It's January the 6th meaning that so far there have been 2 working days since the transfer window opened to register new signings.

I know we are playing poorly, I know we are totally devoid of wide players or midfield creation. I know that without Fulop we are a much weaker defence and I know that our squad is littered with players who need to move on.

I also know that many of you have trudged up and down the country and paid good money to watch utter shit but come on, please give Holloway the month to make the signings he sees are fit and then judge him, and dont pull the trigger before the man has had the chance to put right the wrongs so many of you are so graphic in explaining.

When Holloway came here the Plymouth fans were gutted, so he must have had something going for him surely?

Ok granted they are a smaller club with smaller aspirations, but maybe it's about time we realised that given the current situation at LCFC what would be classed as sucess for the 07-08 season is a target far lower than many speak of.

In my opinion Mandaric has so far made the mess he inhereted worse with bad decisions, but Holloway is here now, is commited to the team and to boot he blew out Plymouth when he had them in a very cozy position to come and join us because he could see what the club could be and where that could take him and us.

I'm sure he never realised at the time just what a mess the club was in, and to be fair a lot of us probably did'nt realise how deep the problems were, but lets now at least allow the bloke the chance during these next few weeks to lay down some foundations for a better future and then maybe you can make some sort of jusgement?

Holloway outed players like Newton who maybe could have played in the positions we know we lack quality in. He must have done that because of the players attitude towards the task ahead. If a player is not 100% commited to play for our club and give his level best to secure us a victory then I'd rather see then gone and someone else in their place, and I'm sure the majority of you would agree.

So far Holloway for me has signed 2 strikers when our club is riddled with them, and an unproven winger who never kicked a ball in Greece. To be fair those signings have'nt got me jumping for joy but it tells me two things...

Firstly Holloway is trying to bring players to the club that he see's have the right attitude and ability to improve our squad and secondly the transfer market in January is a dodgy market, and you cant always get who you want in the position you want as soon as you want.

I'm sure we will see midfielders coming to the club but I also understand we need to be patient to get the right players with the right attitude for the right money.

Right now we are rock bottom for me and it can only go upwards from here.

I trust Holloway far more than that lunatic Allen to bring some decent faces into our club, and I intend to give him the time to do so before I start saying anything for the blokes ability to run our team.

[davieG]

I think the main reason why we havnt been able to get decent midfielders to this club is that we have been skint for the past few years, so have had to scrape the barrel with the likes of Josh Low, Andy Johnson and Stephan Hughes. But last summer, for the first time in ages, we had the opportunity to spent some cash on players who could actually improve the team and take it forward. Im not saying it was all Allens fault, im sure Mandaric had a big say in some transfers, but key positions were not identified by Allen and he wasted a massive opportunity.

But you don't know whether he tried and failed, just because no one turned up doesn't mean he didn't recognise the problem and try to do something - I suspect this is why he ended up resigning Newton.

[Simi]

But you don't know whether he tried and failed, just because no one turned up doesn't mean he didn't recognise the problem and try to do something - I suspect this is why he ended up resigning Newton.

I don't think many complained that badly when we resigned Newton. At the time it was thought he'd become a good squad player, evidently that is not the case now.

Seems Holloway has realised he's turd now though.

[davieG]

I don't think many complained that badly when we resigned Newton. At the time it was thought he'd become a good squad player, evidently that is not the case now.

Seems Holloway has realised he's turd now though.

I did!!

But on reflection maybe, as I said he had little choice and hoped he could get something out of him. As much as I thought he was crap most of the time is he actually any worse than playing Hayles on the wing or 3 other players during a limited period of a match?

[Simi]

I did!!

But on reflection maybe, as I said he had little choice and hoped he could get something out of him. As much as I thought he was crap most of the time is he actually any worse than playing Hayles on the wing or 3 other players during a limited period of a match?

Not at all.

Out of all the strikers we've got, why Hayles on the right wing? It really does baffle me. The guy has no pace and doesn't seem much of a crosser. I always had him down as a poacher and goalscorer every now and then. But he got me thinking when he missed from 5 yards out yesterday!

[ibbosuk]

Two things, first we don't know who was responsible for those signings there are many indications to say they weren't all down to Allen. Secondly this club is obviously finding it difficult to attract decent midfield players as we've had none for 4 years and Ollie hasn't exactly found it easy.

A decent manager should be able to overcome this losing mentality Ollies done nothing so far to demonstrate he's able to lift moral, if anything it's gone backwards. He needs to accept some of the blame for our continued lack of progress.

The vast majority of the current players are able to lift their games...But it's only ever for 1 or 2 games, Hence you get A.villa, Chelsea, Watford results, then its back to the standard that they really are at. ((THATS WHY WE HAVE HAD SO MANY FALSE DAWNS)) the truth is any team in any division can and do, do this.

Its NOT about overcoming a losing mentality its about the level of consistancy that we are asking the current players to match up to WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT and they simply can not do it.

(THATS OUR PROBLEM IN A NUTSHELL)

[Thracian]

The vast majority of the current players are able to lift their games...But it's only ever for 1 or 2 games, Hence you get A.villa, Chelsea, Watford results, then its back to the standard that they really are at. ((THATS WHY WE HAVE HAD SO MANY FALSE DAWNS)) the truth is any team in any division can and do, do this.

Its NOT about overcoming a losing mentality its about the level of consistancy that we are asking the current players to match up to WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT and they simply can not do it.

(THATS OUR PROBLEM IN A NUTSHELL)

"THATS OUR PROBLEM IN A NUTSHELL)"

If only it was that simple - or even a question of consistency. We actually lost just five of our first 21 games this season, mostly with the same players we're using now and, besides, it's only in the Holloway era this season that we've started losing matches at such a serious rate.

[davieG]

The vast majority of the current players are able to lift their games...But it's only ever for 1 or 2 games, Hence you get A.villa, Chelsea, Watford results, then its back to the standard that they really are at. ((THATS WHY WE HAVE HAD SO MANY FALSE DAWNS)) the truth is any team in any division can and do, do this.

Its NOT about overcoming a losing mentality its about the level of consistancy that we are asking the current players to match up to WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT and they simply can not do it.

(THATS OUR PROBLEM IN A NUTSHELL)

Consistency, winning mentality they're all euphemisms for lack of confidence and belief. Either way Ollie like his prdecessors is not getting the best out of these players, in fact he's getting less and let's not forget these are the players he's publicly stated are ok.

By the way I don't need CAPITALS, Boldness or Underlining to understand what you're saying

[ibbosuk]

Consistency, winning mentality they're all euphemisms for lack of confidence and belief. Either way Ollie like his prdecessors is not getting the best out of these players, in fact he's getting less and let's not forget these are the players he's publicly stated are ok.

Any lack of confidence at City is a product of lack of constistancy and quality in performance and that my friend is because they are NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!

Thats why none of the previous managers have been able to get these current crop of players up this table. This is their level.

I say again "Lack of confidence" and "Learning from our mistakes" are in our teams case a metaphor for

Lack of quality.

[Bluemoon]

Any lack of confidence at City is a product of lack of constistancy and quality in performance and that my friend is because they are NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!

Thats why none of the previous managers have been able to get these current crop of players up this table. This is their level.

I say again "Lack of confidence" and "Learning from our mistakes" are in our teams case a metaphor for

Lack of quality.

You're missing Davie's point that Ollie stated the players on show yesterday have been given his stamp of aproval.

[ibbosuk]

You're missing Davie's point that Ollie stated the players on show yesterday have been given his stamp of aproval.

Appoval ? Well he doesnt have much option does he as they are all at the same level of quality and inconsistancy. We will see at least half of them dumped by Ollie by the end of the month (and the rest at the end of the season) that's hardly a stamp of approval.

[Webbo]

You're missing Davie's point that Ollie stated the players on show yesterday have been given his stamp of aproval.

What part of Plymouth Leicester are you from Bluemoon?

[shiv]

tbh most of the time we don't actually look to have a game plan

our full backs just boot the long ball up the pitch and we get nowhere

we need some quality! but i trust ollie and he knows what he's doing

[Asha]

Bring back Martin Allen or even Peter Taylor than this fool Holloway,i would rather Dennis Wise be the manager than this bold headed tosser!

What the fcuk?

Dennis Wise? You can't be fooking serious.

Ollie has not been all that bad that you'd want that twattish gnome back.

If you're going OTT to see an effect, don't bother. We need consistancy right now not random statements of want for Dennis Wise.

[Hugo Sanchez]

What the fcuk?

Dennis Wise? You can't be fooking serious.

Ollie has not been all that bad that you'd want that twattish gnome back.

If you're going OTT to see an effect, don't bother. We need consistancy right now not random statements of want for Dennis Wise.

Dennis Wise hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Asha]

Dennis Wise hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Hold on a sec...

[Hugo Sanchez]

Hold on a sec...

Done well at Leeds and played for us before. Remember everyone should always get a second chance in life Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Bluemoon]

Done well at Leeds and played for us before. Remember everyone should always get a second chance in life Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I'm no fan of Holloway, but please don't mention Dennis Wise.

[ibbosuk]

If only it was that simple - or even a question of consistency. We actually lost just five of our first 21 games this season, mostly with the same players we're using now and, besides, it's only in the Holloway era this season that we've started losing matches at such a serious rate.

We only lost 5 games because we went ultra defensive, and were hard to beat under Megson, (fine if you want to defend all game and don't want to score goals) as soon as we got someone in who wanted to play a more expansive game (Holloway) the cracks have really started to appear in the defence and the midfield just can not cope at all. Again its down to the lack of quality and consistancy in the team and also the wrong type of players.

Hopefully with 1 signed last week and "At least another 4 in this week" according to Holloway, fingers crossed we will finally begin to turn the corner. But if Holloway thought the QPR game "came at the wrong time" well he must be having the same thoughts about the Coventry City game...I know I am

But Fak um lets really go for it next week!!!!!!!!

[Ultra]

I think one of the many problems with our current squad is that the players who have been here for the past few seasons now have a losing mentality, and are used to playing football in a leicester city shirt and losing.

True.

And therefore they've begun to accept it. Once the rot sets in it's very hard to shift.

It's not the negativity of the fans that is the problem, but the defeatist mindset of the current squad.

[Thracian]

True.

And therefore they've begun to accept it. Once the rot sets in it's very hard to shift.

It's not the negativity of the fans that is the problem, but the defeatist mindset of the current squad.

All teams lose confidence the more results go against them and the giving away of two points against Charlton would have been a particularly big blow.

The game was won and the fact that we donated an equaliser to the opposition right at the death can get players thinking that no matter what they do something, sometime will go wrong.

Mentally it was a hammer blow at a time when some players were mentally vulnerable anyway.

It really is up to the manager to recognise these potential psychological pitfalls before they arise and make sure his team knows how to react in different situations.

[Ultra]

All teams lose confidence the more results go against them and the giving away of two points against Charlton would have been a particularly big blow.

The game was won and the fact that we donated an equaliser to the opposition right at the death can get players thinking that no matter what they do something, sometime will go wrong.

Mentally it was a hammer blow at a time when some players were mentally vulnerable anyway.

It really is up to the manager to recognise these potential psychological pitfalls before they arise and make sure his team knows how to react in different situations.

But it's hardly the first time this has happened to this team, is it?

It happened earlier in the season at Palace. On that occasion Allen managed to get the team to bounce back in the next game, against Watford.

What particularly concerns me is how rarely we recover from going a goal down, either at home or away. Heads drop and whatever spirit the team mas seems to vanish in an instant.

It's really a question of character. At the moment the squad doesn't seem to have enough of this.

[Smudge]

But it's hardly the first time this has happened to this team, is it?

It happened earlier in the season at Palace. On that occasion Allen managed to get the team to bounce back in the next game, against Watford.

What particularly concerns me is how rarely we recover from going a goal down, either at home or away. Heads drop and whatever spirit the team mas seems to vanish in an instant.

It's really a question of character. At the moment the squad doesn't seem to have enough of this.

We have no leader on the field.

[Ultra]

We have no leader on the field.

Agreed.

It's an issue Holloway has to deal with, perhaps by bringing in a captain from outside the club.

[Guest]

Isn't that what Clemence was supposed to do? Either he's not up to it, or the players have no respect for each other, as well as the management and the fans of the club. Or most likely both.