blueoveru Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 Come on this is stupidity..................Walsh he's more concerned about skirts than about our demise, and if he cannot be arsed to go and get some coaching badges why bother with him, yes brilliant whilst playing for us....but if he cared for us and seeing our predicament he'd have done something about it by now............ instead of business ventures in Leicester and Spain that have gone tits up. Good player but a no-brainer
ibbosuk Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 The reasons Gregory would want Walsh is because he knows that he's not universally welcomed and Walsh would act as a barrier to that and to cover his back when he inevitably fails to meet Mandaric's impossible expectations. EXACTLY!.... forget it MM, cos if you stick this one on us and it goes belly up (Like it will) it will be YOUR HEAD everyone is calling for NEXT! .... There is only so much failure and incompetence people can stand before they start voicing there displeasure at the matches (WITH YOU) and lets face it MM most people are pretty fedup with you as it is..... Carn't you fain a bit of dementia and exit sideways nobody would question you, just leave the wallet on the table before you go..... UP THE CIIIIIITTTTTYYYY!!!!!!!!!
Joe. Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 Personally I don't like the idea. For a start, until now he's never even bothered attemtping to get his coaching badges and instead run his golf business in Spain. For me this doesn't show well for him, and until he has at least some coaching/managerial experience we should keep well away. Motivational he could be, but does he have a brain to go with it?
Vestan Pance Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 If we need to have an ex legend in charge then Taggart is already here and much better qualified to be our manager. Let's face it him and Burrows did no worse than anyone else last season. I honestly think Taggart is our best bet at the moment.
Fosse Boy Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 I'm not sure why everyone seems so bothered about coaching badges. The amount of great managers who've achieved without them has already been listed. A bit of raw passion for the game rather than scientific aptitude might be what's needed for once, every other approach seems to have failed. Management is all about motivating players as far as I'm concerned, let the coaches do the coaching. Don't think Walshy would be right but I'd be as open to him having the job as anyone else.
Daggers Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 I couldn't give a toss about coaching badges - and I'm beyond caring about who gets the job. The sooner Mendacious calls a halt to this disaster of a recruitment process the better - if he hasn't worked out who is the best candidate for the job by now then he should just grab the first random person walking into the club shop. Last season, I didn't want Walsh within a 12 mile radius of the manager's office - but this isn't last season anymore and, unless it has escaped anyone's attention, almost every sane person is not interested in working with Mendacious. So **** it - if Walsh wants to work at the club then let him.
The Reverend Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 GURU IBBOSUK SAYS..GO AND GET BILLY DAVIES YOU FAKIN NOB!!!! STOP PISSIN AROUND AND DO SOMETHING RIGHT FOR ONCE!!!!!! Guru Ibbosuk said that it would definitely be Billy Davies a few weeks ago. Me think 'guru' Ibbosuk is talking out his rear end.
Leicester_Mad Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 Beaglehole as manager and Walsh as his assistant. fook it we have nothing else to lose
James. Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 I couldn't give a toss about coaching badges - and I'm beyond caring about who gets the job. The sooner Mendacious calls a halt to this disaster of a recruitment process the better - if he hasn't worked out who is the best candidate for the job by now then he should just grab the first random person walking into the club shop.Last season, I didn't want Walsh within a 12 mile radius of the manager's office - but this isn't last season anymore and, unless it has escaped anyone's attention, almost every sane person is not interested in working with Mendacious. So **** it - if Walsh wants to work at the club then let him. I'm all over this apathy bandwagon. Actually, no I'm not. I couldn't care less about it.
Zingari Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 I'm all over this apathy bandwagon.Actually, no I'm not. I couldn't care less about it. stop going around whipping up apathy
Flynny Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 I'd go mental if we got Walsh as manager, I really don't think he's got the brain for it. As a number two though there's no reason he shouldn't be a success, I'd go so far as to say that with the right manager its the perfect role for him. I'd much rather it were under Grayson though, it'd make far more sense and I don't want Gregory.
Lillehamring Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 Guru Ibbosuk said that it would definitely be Billy Davies a few weeks ago. Me think 'guru' Ibbosuk is talking out his rear end. with any luck, he'll fu(k off under the weight of his own spectacular foolishness when it's not davies...
OriginalRobboFOX Posted 19 June 2008 Author Posted 19 June 2008 and this is exactly the mentality at this club that has driven us into this hole: firstly, this assumption that it is going to go badly, and even worse, this predetermined plan to slag him off if things get a bit tricky...shame on you! if walshy does become involved in a period of failure for this club, and lets face it he's a big enough man to step up when that is exactly what we are in, i'd like to think that i have enough respect for the man to not resort to dissing him. in fact, i think it is more likely that people will forgive him things we would be critical of other managers for doing. nothing walshy could do would make me want to rip him apart - and if he became boss, failed and was sacked, i'd still hold him great esteem as a player and a personality. christ, planning his downfall before he's even started At no point did I say my adulation for him would change. I'd be gutted for him tho because there are fans out there that would bait him if things went wrong. He should stay out of it. He has no experience in management (or as an assistant) whatsoever, you might aswell give the job to one of us lot. He could have stayed in football when he finished but he went elsewhere (golf in Spain), whereas Taggs hung about and got some badges and some experience. I think if Walsh got the nod ahead of Taggs (for the assistant position) it just wouldn't be fair....
l444ry Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 Cannot believe the ridiculous negativity towards Steve Walsh. Why assume he'll fail? And if he did have that silly bit of paper that states he's a "qualified Coach" would that make any difference? Plenty of time for Walsh to get those qualifications that some seem to think made Holloway, Kelly and Levein such great successes. Kevin Keegan walked away from football for years before returning to Newcastle. He didn't do so bad for the break considering he wasn't "qualified". If Mandaric gets Walsh involved in any way at all it will be the best thing he's done at this club. In fact, he should have done it ages ago.
Lillehamring Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 At no point did I say my adulation for him would change. I'd be gutted for him tho because there are fans out there that would bait him if things went wrong. He should stay out of it. He has no experience in management (or as an assistant) whatsoever, you might aswell give the job to one of us lot. He could have stayed in football when he finished but he went elsewhere (golf in Spain), whereas Taggs hung about and got some badges and some experience. I think if Walsh got the nod ahead of Taggs (for the assistant position) it just wouldn't be fair.... it was not meant to be directed at the quoted posters, rather the atitude you were decribing. sorry. of course, there's nothing to say that walsh will be any good, but there is a tendancy around here to write him off before he's even started. as assistant, he's not gonna be doing so much technical stuff, he would be assistant manager, not a coach, i believe there is a difference...
ibbosuk Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 with any luck, he'll fu(k off under the weight of his own spectacular foolishness when it's not davies... Yer with any luck.....Trouble is u and this club are never fakin lucky are you... NB. Correct if I'm wrong but nobody has been appointed yet!
Foxestalc Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 Wasn't able to get to many games this year so listened to walshy a lot on the radio, and I can't think of a single thing he said that made me think he had any managerial insight or intelligence. If passion was the only thing needed to run a club half the people on this site'd be doing the job. He's not bright enough or on the ball enough to be involved in management. He's a legend but I think he might be a disaster.
dandannieldanok Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 Wasn't able to get to many games this year so listened to walshy a lot on the radio, and I can't think of a single thing he said that made me think he had any managerial insight or intelligence. If passion was the only thing needed to run a club half the people on this site'd be doing the job. He's not bright enough or on the ball enough to be involved in management. He's a legend but I think he might be a disaster.
renards Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 Wasn't able to get to many games this year so listened to walshy a lot on the radio, and I can't think of a single thing he said that made me think he had any managerial insight or intelligence. If passion was the only thing needed to run a club half the people on this site'd be doing the job. He's not bright enough or on the ball enough to be involved in management. He's a legend but I think he might be a disaster. Welcome. is that you Gerry?
Milky Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 Wasn't able to get to many games this year so listened to walshy a lot on the radio, and I can't think of a single thing he said that made me think he had any managerial insight or intelligence. If passion was the only thing needed to run a club half the people on this site'd be doing the job. He's not bright enough or on the ball enough to be involved in management. He's a legend but I think he might be a disaster.
Uncle Albert Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 Coaching badges You didnt just do that did you? He is going to flex out now.
dandannieldanok Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 if I hear coaching badges one more time I will hit something. so what. I don't really know what happens in the process of getting these badges, but I'd have thought it was at least loosely based around the theme of learning how to coach. The people who don't want Walsh, don't want him because there is no evidence that he can coach. Sure he's passionate and he says the right things but without even the evidence of badges it appears a real non-starter.
l444ry Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 I don't really know what happens in the process of getting these badges, but I'd have thought it was at least loosely based around the theme of learning how to coach. The people who don't want Walsh, don't want him because there is no evidence that he can coach. Sure he's passionate and he says the right things but without even the evidence of badges it appears a real non-starter. Surely he could gain these magic "qualifications" while assistant manager. The whole concept of judging whether a manager is any good by his "qualifications" is, frankly, laughable. On that criteria alone there are more "qualified" coaches running pub sides every sunday than Walsh simply because he hasn't done them yet. Logic gone loopy.......
Daggers Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 I've pulled the badge of the front of the Optimistic Bus - Walshy can borrow it if he wants, if it'll make people happy that he now has one.
smokey Posted 19 June 2008 Posted 19 June 2008 Surely he could gain these magic "qualifications" while assistant manager. The whole concept of judging whether a manager is any good by his "qualifications" is, frankly, laughable. On that criteria alone there are more "qualified" coaches running pub sides every sunday than Walsh simply because he hasn't done them yet. Logic gone loopy....... Very good point and very true! But you have the wrong end of the stick, people are wondering why Walsh had no desire fpr over 5 years to do any badges or more importantly why he has never done any coaching whatsoever at any level yet! At least he will know all the best bars and golf coures in Spain!
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