EMA

[lavrentis]

bit sterotypical some of you about you can't give money to students. I don't get it but I think it's a good idea.

[Guest]

Well you can fu*k off.

My dad had a bloody brilliant job at HSBC, so good that he decided to retire at 52. That's how I get EMA. Some people's parents may be seperated and others may have suffered bereavement.

What a stupid statement to make.

What a bender.

How do you know their parents havent tried hard at school? Some people get it because their parents arent together no more and are living on one income.

I'm sure alot of people who get EMA because their parents arent together would prefer not to have EMA if it meant their parents being together, maybe just maybe you should sit back and shut up and think how lucky you are before mouthing off.

I can see the point he's trying to make.

[The People's Hero]

There are far better places that money could go.

[Uncle Albert]

There are far better places that money could go.

Where you back pocket?

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

I can see the point he's trying to make.

What he's basically said is that anyone who receives EMA does so thanks to lack of effort in school on their parent's part.

[The People's Hero]

Where you back pocket?

Why should you get paid to study? It's for your own good.

You don't HAVE to go to study?

I don't get it.

And the better places it could go have all been listed. If it has been earmarked for education then great, use it to improve standards of education in our schools. It shouldn't be used to bribe no hopers or 50/50 do I/don't I's? to continue their education for 2 years when they don't really want to be there.

It's ill thought out.

[Guest]

What he's basically said is that anyone who receives EMA does so thanks to lack of effort in school on their parent's part.

He seemed to suggest in some cases.

To be honest, if I came from a household where my parents earned enough that I didn't qualify, yet I earned my keep only to see my peers having money thrown at them, I would be a tad pissed off too.

[The People's Hero]

What he's basically said is that anyone who receives EMA does so thanks to lack of effort in school on their parent's part.

He made a general point.

You then made a completely embarrassing knee jerk reaction based on your personal circumstances alone.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

In honesty I really don't mind people having problems with students receiving EMA. It's the generalisations of these students, what they are doing with the money they receive, and why they receive payments in the first place, that bugs me.

[Uncle Albert]

Why should you get paid to study? It's for your own good.

You don't HAVE to go to study?

I don't get it.

And the better places it could go have all been listed. If it has been earmarked for education then great, use it to improve standards of education in our schools. It shouldn't be used to bribe no hopers or 50/50 do I/don't I's? to continue their education for 2 years when they don't really want to be there.

It's ill thought out.

I didnt say it should go anywhere else did I? I was joking.

I dont get EMA but I get pissed off when idiots above say things about parents failing at school.

[Unit]

Has anyone who is entitled to it, recieved any payments yet?

I presume the payment day is still Friday, as it was last year.

But, there are a few people who work in Student Services at Leicester College, who seem to think, the whole system is down, & we won't be recieving any EMA payments until March as a massive back pay.

I'm unsure whether I will get it tomorrow as last week was just an induction week, I'm not desperate for it, but it would be nice.

Which campus you at?

I MIGHT be able to get EMA this year, hopefully will even though I think it's stupid as ote, i'm not turning free money down

[The People's Hero]

I appreciate that it's a controversial issue and that some people will get passionate about it - but I have to say, some of you are showing that perhaps you ought to spend a few more years at school/college!

[BoneHead.]

What he's basically said is that anyone who receives EMA does so thanks to lack of effort in school on their parent's part.

Exactly.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

I appreciate that it's a controversial issue and that some people will get passionate about it - but I have to say, some of you are showing that perhaps you ought to spend a few more years at school/college!

Who? Please name names .

[Guest]

Why should you get paid to study? It's for your own good.

You don't HAVE to go to study?

I don't get it.

And the better places it could go have all been listed. If it has been earmarked for education then great, use it to improve standards of education in our schools. It shouldn't be used to bribe no hopers or 50/50 do I/don't I's? to continue their education for 2 years when they don't really want to be there.

It's ill thought out.

I had to work part time, as well as study, when I was 16. How we managed, I don't know.

I really don't understand why this government is trying to push so many through the higher education system. It's typical of this society that an educational elite is frowned upon. No, let's fill the libraries of our institutions with morons shouting into their mobiles whilst having a picnic, and consequently disturbing those of us who actually want to improve academically.

[The People's Hero]

Exactly.

He made a general point. He doesn't have time (or probably the inclination) to make an in depth study, considering the exact circumstances of every family which has a student qualifying for EMA.

Then there have been a few people who can't see beyond their own interests come out and make fools of themselves by throwing their toys out of the pram because their circumstances aren't those of the typical EMA claimer.

My advice is get over yourselves.

You're so far on the back foot here - you're almost out of sight. I've never known anyone so defensive.

[Joe.]

It's a very poor system in my opinion, it's all black and white on parent's income at the end of the day. I am bitter because I don't get it myself, but it's when you see people getting £30 a week for just turning up to school and having to do nothing for it when they clearly don't need the money.

It's when they base income on only what is coming in, and not forced payments going out that annoys me (for example, I live with my step-dad and he has two children he has to pay maintenance for).

And when you consider I have to work almost 25 hours a month on my wage to earn what EMA receivers get a month is quite gutting!

[Guest]

In honesty I really don't mind people having problems with students receiving EMA. It's the generalisations of these students, what they are doing with the money they receive, and why they receive payments in the first place, that bugs me.

Perhaps because there is no real reason to have it. It is just an enticer to make government figures look good.

[Guest]

I appreciate that it's a controversial issue and that some people will get passionate about it - but I have to say, some of you are showing that perhaps you ought to spend a few more years at school/college!

I think the real world is the place to be.

[Uncle Albert]

I had to work part time, as well as study, when I was 16. How we managed, I don't know.

I really don't understand why this government is trying to push so many through the higher education system. It's typical of this society that an educational elite is frowned upon. No, let's fill the libraries of our institutions with morons shouting into their mobiles whilst having a picnic, and consequently disturbing those of us who actually want to improve academically.

Maybe they are pushing people to stay in education to further there futures, instead of them finishing at 16 and claiming more than £30 a week? There are alot of people who do want to learn and improve academically who claim EMA. Its not all doss abouts.

To be honest I can see why the older generation dont like the idea of EMA because it wasnt around when they were younger but I dont see what difference it makes to younger kids.

I dont get EMA but I am not fussed that my mates and others at my school are getting it. Dont see why it should matter to others.

[The People's Hero]

I worked hard and worked a lot of hours at times whilst at college and at uni.

I'd rather have had a hand out, but I know that it's unnecessary in all but the most extreme cases. The education is already free.

It's just unnecessary and it's divisive as some will get £30, some will get £20, some will get £10 and some will get fu ck all. It will cause bitterness.

It's a stupid concept and it's execution and structure is absolutely appalling.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

I had to work part time, as well as study, when I was 16. How we managed, I don't know.

I really don't understand why this government is trying to push so many through the higher education system. It's typical of this society that an educational elite is frowned upon. No, let's fill the libraries of our institutions with morons shouting into their mobiles whilst having a picnic, and consequently disturbing those of us who actually want to improve academically.

I work part-time. I don't rely solely on EMA for income, because I don't see how that would give me any sense of responsibility.

He made a general point. He doesn't have time (or probably the inclination) to make an in depth study, considering the exact circumstances of every family which has a student qualifying for EMA.

Then there have been a few people who can't see beyond their own interests come out and make fools of themselves by throwing their toys out of the pram because their circumstances aren't those of the typical EMA claimer.

My advice is get over yourselves.

You're so far on the back foot here - you're almost out of sight. I've never known anyone so defensive.

Just out of interest what is the typical EMA claimer?

I know many people who receive the payments and they're all sensible, intelligent, approachable people. In fact,even those who I am not friends with back in my old college who still get EMA were exactly the same, not the same people you seem to want to belittle.

And of course people will get defensive when generalisations are made about a group that includes them. I get just as aggrovated when people make assumptions about youths, or judgements on people based on what clothes they wear etc.

[BigGibbo]

I worked hard and worked a lot of hours at times whilst at college and at uni.

I'd rather have had a hand out, but I know that it's unnecessary in all but the most extreme cases. The education is already free.

It's just unnecessary and it's divisive as some will get £30, some will get £20, some will get £10 and some will get fu ck all. It will cause bitterness.

It's a stupid concept and it's execution and structure is absolutely appalling.

My thoughts exactly.

[The People's Hero]

Just out of interest what is the typical EMA claimer?

I know many people who receive the payments and they're all sensible, intelligent, approachable people. In fact,even those who I am not friends with back in my old college who still get EMA were exactly the same, not the same people you seem to want to belittle.

And of course people will get defensive when generalisations are made about a group that includes them. I get just as aggrovated when people make assumptions about youths, or judgements on people based on what clothes they wear etc.

I'm not belittling anyone.

We're at cross purposes. I'm saying it's a stupid concept and it's execution has been abysmal. My criticism is of the concept that the state (thanks to the taxpayer) having already provided the opportunity of a free education post 16 should then also bribe people to take advantage of it.

You are then defending the concept by saying that you 'know many people who receive the payments' who are 'sensible, intelligent and approachable'.

The points you make are entirely irrelevant to this argument.

[Flynny]

Divisive? I spent 2 years at college without it ever being a problem. No-one who has recieved it or is a parent of those recieving it seems to have a problem with it.