Hartlepool Post Match Thread

[Manwell Pablo]

Not really.

The amount of clear cut chances he's had he should have at least 10 goals.

If he actually he learnt to pass/shoot without taking 14 touches then i'd be wrong.

All strikers miss clear cut chances, please see the other strikers at this club for evidence. He's the one who's putting the most away, he is one of the last players we should be looking to replace.

[Fez of Mahrez]

All strikers miss clear cut chances, please see the other strikers at this club for evidence. He's the one who's putting the most away, he is one of the last players we should be looking to replace.

Damn straight, he's one of the best players in the league at the moment and defenders don't like playing against him. Doesn't really matter what's happened in the last two years now.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Maybe I was at a different game...

http://www.hartlepoolunited.premiumtv.co.u...1404734,00.html

Danny Wilson: Second half we pretty much controlled the game

Yerwhat?!

[Legend_in_blue]

Maybe I was at a different game...

http://www.hartlepoolunited.premiumtv.co.u...1404734,00.html

Yerwhat?!

I thought their play was actually pretty good. It's up there with the best any other team has managed against us so far at home this season.

On the balance of play, somebody neutral could easily have turned round and said both teams deserve the draw.

I'm just glad we scored early and managed to hold onto it. On more than one occasion I was feeling the worst.

[Lovejoy]

Nice to see we're all happy with the result.

I thought we played well tbh, just the fnal ball, finishing and the lack of prescence in central midfield. Tunchev is a class above though.

[Lovejoy]

Maybe I was at a different game...

http://www.hartlepoolunited.premiumtv.co.u...1404734,00.html

Yerwhat?!

At no point were thay in control. And I thought their defence looked extremely suspect.

[Kilworthfox]

Reminded me of a certain Gareth Williams who always reminded me of a golfer trying to chip the ball onto the green.

We won hooray 3 points thanks very much! Oh an what game was Danny Wilson watching? HUFC wer in our pockets all day long I can remember Martin making 1 very good save! I believe Fryatt must have been told to be more gready in front of goal as he never passed to the open man and took shots which he should have laid square.Adams had a good game setting up some decent play. Dyer caused the problems all game, Oakley could not miss even a Fryatt/Campbell/Howard combo from last year could not miss that chance Tuchev is a colossus in defence and I would be amazed if anyone from this league will get the better of him.

Andy king is starting to resemble a certain Mr Williams

Goes missing

Never dominates the midfield

Every now and again makes you think "woha that was class" unfortunately not that often

[Daggers]

Maybe I was at a different game...

http://www.hartlepoolunited.premiumtv.co.u...1404734,00.html

Yerwhat?!

I suspected it - It would go some way to explaining our different perspectives.

[Thracian]

At no point were thay in control. And I thought their defence looked extremely suspect.

Their defence was appalling, it was like a cullinder. Our wingers were excellent but they were hardly up against the likes of Frank Sinclair and they rightly took advantage. We needed more men in the box to make it count and I do wish Kingy had more licence in that respect.

Front third they were sometimes threatening but it was spasmodic. Generally we were well on top and had Howard's 'goal' been allowed the final result could have been emphatic.

[Thracian]

We won hooray 3 points thanks very much! Oh an what game was Danny Wilson watching? HUFC wer in our pockets all day long I can remember Martin making 1 very good save! I believe Fryatt must have been told to be more gready in front of goal as he never passed to the open man and took shots which he should have laid square.Adams had a good game setting up some decent play. Dyer caused the problems all game, Oakley could not miss even a Fryatt/Campbell/Howard combo from last year could not miss that chance Tuchev is a colossus in defence and I would be amazed if anyone from this league will get the better of him.

Andy king is starting to resemble a certain Mr Williams

Goes missing

Never dominates the midfield

Every now and again makes you think "woha that was class" unfortunately not that often

Considering how little you say he did, I've rarely seen two wingers get more of the ball nor the opposition have to clear their penalty box more. King clearly had a role to play and that's exactly what he did.

King and Oakley might not always be spectacular but you can see by the way they constantly check each other's position that they work in tandem to maintain a balance between defence and attack. Both our goals for and our goals against stats suggest that it works extremely well.

[Hullfox]

Considering how little you say he did, I've rarely seen two wingers get more of the ball nor the opposition have to clear their penalty box more. King clearly had a role to play and that's exactly what he did.

King and Oakley might not always be spectacular but you can see by the way they constantly check each other's position that they work in tandem to maintain a balance between defence and attack. Both our goals for and our goals against stats suggest that it works extremely well.

I agree.

I thought Kingy's contribution yesterday showed a bit more maturity. On Tuesday he must have hit 3 or 4 long diagonal balls to the wingers straight out of play over their heads which was a complete waste. Against Hartlepool, he kept the ball a lot lower and rarely wasted the ball. He was very instrumental in breaking down attacks and forcing the opposition to play the ball backwards. Overall much better but still learning.

[Daggers]

We should have pushed on and scored more but we'll take the three points and move on.

I wonder if Oakley will be berated by people on here for expressing the same "negative" opinion?

[Candidcamera]

Adams may make a decent player? Good news that we are getting the signings right.

[Daggers]

Number of crosses that came to nothing is a worry, not just from the strikers but the defenders rarely threatened from corners.

Decent performance overall they passed it about well throughout but the goals really are drying up. Hoping DJ is back soon, not for his goals but his pace is an asset, at times today Dyer was that fast the strikers were struggling to keep up!

Howard has had an illness for a week, that can't have helped although I welcomed his play more than Fryatt's.

On a totally unrelated note: Frank Sinclair is 36 so, everyone in the pub, I was close

[Hullfox]

Howard has had an illness for a week, that can't have helped although I welcomed his play more than Fryatt's.

If he's suffering from the same strain of man flu as me, he had a fooking stormer yesterday.

[ThorpeAstleyFox]

Leicester 1 - 0 Hartlepool

Goal Attempts 18 : 16 Goal Attempts

On Target 10 : 7 On Target

Crosses 31 : 18 Crosses

Corners 12 : 3 Corners

Offside 4 : 3 Offside

Fouls 10 : 12 Fouls

Free kicks 15 : 15 Free kicks

Yellow cards 1 : 1 Yellow cards

Red cards - : - Red cards

% Possession 58 : 42 Possession %

Whilst these stats don't quite tell the whole story they do show that it was a very open game with Hartlepool also creating plenty of chances - anyone saying that we should have won by at least three goals must have been at a different game to me! I distintly remember Martin making a very good save and Oakley clearing one off the line - not to mention several shots-cum-crosses that had my heart racing. We had a goal disallowed but otherwise our shooting was pretty woeful, lacking in power and accuracy - I can remember their 'keeper making several easy saves and none which I would consider to be "good". Don't get me wrong, I think that we did control the game fairly well but we have to convert the posession into goals. I've especially been dissapointed with our crossing - both from open play but especially from corners.

As for the players, I thought that they were all pretty solid and that Dyer was a class above. Tunchev looked very assured at the back. I was slightly dissapointed with Adams, in particular his positioning and off the ball movement. There were a couple of times in the first half when Gilbert had the ball and Adams was stood ten yards away instead of making a run (either to recieve the ball or to drag a player away). He also pulled out of a couple of challanges. Of course I don't want the lad to get injured (especially with our bench at the moment) but I felt that on at least two occasions the ball was there for the taking (one of which was in their box!). I know that this will be an unpopular observation given the number of people raving about him but there it is.

p.s. Delighted with the three points and look forward to topping the table come Tuesday!

[demon_dog]

I totally agree about Howard but then he is just shit. Cest la vie. Fryatt bashing however is not on, look how many goals he has scored, he's had an off game and we've won.

I never thought I'd hear myself say this but where was Campbell?

Both strikers under performed yesterday, the biggest culprit yet again was your beloved crappy Fryatt.

He missed at least 3 clear cut chances on Tuesday against Lincoln and yesterday he had at least another 3 clear cut chances that he failed to put away.

As for the seven goals, 2 penalties, 3 simple tap ins, 2 good strikes.

Sorry but for being our supposedly star striker he is simply not good enough.

Would rather see Dickov upfront he is a proven striker.

Alternatively would be interesting to see DJ have a spell upfront for 5 or 6 games to see if he can bag a few.

I feel that unless our strike force get their act together we could well miss out on automatic promotion.

[smokey]

Both strikers under performed yesterday, the biggest culprit yet again was your beloved crappy Fryatt.

He missed at least 3 clear cut chances on Tuesday against Lincoln and yesterday he had at least another 3 clear cut chances that he failed to put away.

As for the seven goals, 2 penalties, 3 simple tap ins, 2 good strikes.

Sorry but for being our supposedly star striker he is simply not good enough.

Would rather see Dickov upfront he is a proven striker.

Alternatively would be interesting to see DJ have a spell upfront for 5 or 6 games to see if he can bag a few.

I feel that unless our strike force get their act together we could well miss out on automatic promotion.

What are you talking about idiot?

I said in the summer if fit and given a chance Fryatt would be our best striker this season and so far that as been the case, whatever you think about missed chances etc etc the facts dont lie demon so give it a rest hey, yes we are not brilliant every game but what is everyone moaning about? Win our game in hand ad we are top of the Leauge, unbeaton in the only Cup we can win and took Fulham all the way in the Carling Cup.

Not bad i thinks really or am i missing something??

[demon_dog]

What are you talking about idiot?

I said in the summer if fit and given a chance Fryatt would be our best striker this season and so far that as been the case, whatever you think about missed chances etc etc the facts dont lie demon so give it a rest hey, yes we are not brilliant every game but what is everyone moaning about? Win our game in hand ad we are top of the Leauge, unbeaton in the only Cup we can win and took Fulham all the way in the Carling Cup.

Not bad i thinks really or am i missing something??

Best striker so far because he's the only one that has been given a consistent run up front.

Yes you are missing something, Fryatts crap.

[Thracian]

Most games this season have been off games for Fryatt.

Yes, it's a bold claim, but I went there.

I'd have people like yourself, Bert and Ched down as major contenders for fan of the season so disagreeing with you comes quite hard. I've also been as scathingly critical of Fryatt in the past, and with no regrets cos he's deserved it.

But if the lad collects 10 more goals nicely spread out from his next 10 'off' days I shan't complain.

You're right about his tendency to take too many passes and to look a good pass in the eye then ignore it. And these things may well count against him again in time if the goals dry up.

But in this League and in this side he's a leading marksman and, for me, that's the only currency that really matters for strikers.

I'd love to see him improve on his weaknesses and limitations but if being selfish, frustrating and tunnel-visioned is the way he has to operate to find the net consistently then it's a deal as far as I'm concerned.

Seven goals in 10 games makes him our top scorer and equates to 20-odd for the season if he keeps it up and that will do for me. Anything positive a striker contributes on top of 15-20 goals a season is a bonus.

[smokey]

Best striker so far because he's the only one that has been given a consistent run up front.

Yes you are missing something, Fryatts crap.

You dont know what you are talking about!

Him and Howard are the only ones who have been given a run in side yes!

But look at the results this season, the tables dont lie demon so tell me why is it so vital that DJ Cambell should play and what makes you think he will be so prolific just because he can run fast????

[demon_dog]

You dont know what you are talking about!

Him and Howard are the only ones who have been given a run in side yes!

But look at the results this season, the tables dont lie demon so tell me why is it so vital that DJ Cambell should play and what makes you think he will be so prolific just because he can run fast????

I never stated that it was vital that DJ has a run in the side, I also didn't state that he would be a prolific goalscorer.

I simply stated that I wondered if DJ were to have a run in the side if would score a few goals as Fryatt has done.

As for not knowing what I'm talking about, I'm not alone in my views regarding Fryatt.

Credit where it's due to him for the hard work he puts in, but he should not always be single minded in going for goal himself when another player is in a better position to probably score. He also lacks pace which was exposed on a few occasions yesterday.

If and when his play improves regarding his ability, then I will start to give him any due praise.

Until then my view will not change.

The league table does not lie as you rightly state, this is because we are one of the better footballing sides in this league.

We came down last season due to our lack of ability to score goals, I hope that we do not miss out on promotion for the same reason.

That being we basically have the same strikers.

[Munzie]

Some mixed views on here in the post-mortem...I expect nothing less.

I think yesterdays match was excellent to watch. Two teams wanting to play football. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a 4-0 thrashing as much as the next man but that's not going to happen that often. Hats off to Hartlepool for coming here and giving it a go.

It was good to see that we didn't sit back after our early breakthrough and went in search of more. That made for an open and entertaining game. As already posted, I think our defence look solid, our wingers looked very threatening and our centre midfielders are constantly improving.

I would also add that it's about time that some of our fans get off Howard's back. He has proved this season that he is a key player in Pearson's set-up/tactics. He is being used really effectively as a target man who can provide a way through for his striking partners. He is winning most balls in the air and looking to put through Fryatt wherever possible. Yesterday (as he was against Millwall & Orient) he was constantly being pulled back by their defence, the referee apparently oblivious to this going on until later in the game. It seems as if they can get away with it half a dozen times before the referee starts to take notice.

Yet again, Howard managed to find the back of the net only to be ruled against in a 50-50 situation. How many times has that happened so far this season?

The reason we have DJ, Dickov and co is because they offer another alternative to our game-plan should our opposition out play us. At the moment, the only time that has happened was the visit of Millwall. Other than that, playing Howard and Fryatt has proved very effective. Long may it continue.

[lildave3]

Some mixed views on here in the post-mortem...I expect nothing less.

I think yesterdays match was excellent to watch. Two teams wanting to play football. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a 4-0 thrashing as much as the next man but that's not going to happen that often. Hats off to Hartlepool for coming here and giving it a go.

It was good to see that we didn't sit back after our early breakthrough and went in search of more. That made for an open and entertaining game. As already posted, I think our defence look solid, our wingers looked very threatening and our centre midfielders are constantly improving.

I would also add that it's about time that some of our fans get off Howard's back. He has proved this season that he is a key player in Pearson's set-up/tactics. He is being used really effectively as a target man who can provide a way through for his striking partners. He is winning most balls in the air and looking to put through Fryatt wherever possible. Yesterday (as he was against Millwall & Orient) he was constantly being pulled back by their defence, the referee apparently oblivious to this going on until later in the game. It seems as if they can get away with it half a dozen times before the referee starts to take notice.

Yet again, Howard managed to find the back of the net only to be ruled against in a 50-50 situation. How many times has that happened so far this season?

The reason we have DJ, Dickov and co is because they offer another alternative to our game-plan should our opposition out play us. At the moment, the only time that has happened was the visit of Millwall. Other than that, playing Howard and Fryatt has proved very effective. Long may it continue.

4 I believe. Great post.

[Ash]

Howard - Terrible. Why is he still getting in our team? He's got a head like a Sheriff's badge!

Dyer - Quality, Can take players on, runs all day & gives 100%

Tunchev - Good strong centre half, who reads the game well! Him and Kisnorbo at the back will be solid!