The Stig Posted 17 March 2009 Author Posted 17 March 2009 Hmmmm. Not sure. It could work well, I'm all for people going for the win, look at the Lewis and Kimi battle in Spa, but deciding the whole year? That seems a bit extreme, I'd rather them have made the winner get 12 or 14 and kept the rest as it is.
isaidno Posted 17 March 2009 Posted 17 March 2009 Facey F1 Dream TeamI'll start a league if a few people join Im in , Button fastest again today .
Asha Posted 17 March 2009 Posted 17 March 2009 Shocking decision. I think 10 for win, 8 for 2nd is not enough of a gap points-wise, but this is an atrocious idea. Hate it, actually hate it. A driver can just get a few wins under his belt then fook off home without worrying if his rival is racking up points for consecutive podiums etc.
Brainy Posted 17 March 2009 Posted 17 March 2009 I like how they say the change was made because Hamilton won last years title having won one race less than Massa, when that one win was when Massa finished 2nd. Thankgod this is only for one season.
Asha Posted 17 March 2009 Posted 17 March 2009 Also, the idea of it being anything other than a 2 horse race goes out the window surely. The likes of Kubica and Kovalainen, picking up regular points for podiums...won't produce the amount of wins the ferraris/hamilton will.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 17 March 2009 Posted 17 March 2009 McLaren have admitted that they are not competitive enough.They'll pull something out of the hat though, they always do. Wonder if there running Kers but not using it - so that when it comes to the first race they flick the switch and zoooooooom, there they go!
Legend_in_blue Posted 17 March 2009 Posted 17 March 2009 I reckon they should reduce the number of tyres on a car from 4 to 3. That is a more sensible solution than this nonsense.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 17 March 2009 Posted 17 March 2009 How can someone be classed as the "best" if they continuously finish second? Granted they have great consistency; but it means they were always beaten by someone else in a race, where the aim is to win. No-one ever goes into a race thinking 'right i'm going to come second'.I'm not saying this new system is the answer, granted it does rule out the consistency which should be taken into account, but at least its a start and stops the farce happening like at the end of last season I enjoyed the farce that was the end of last season - that was drama that F1 wants yet Mr Ecclestone seems to have gone with a way that could mean the season's over before its finished. Blind sighted thinking in my mind, because with these radical new designs and lack of time to improve the cars, if someone gets of to a flyer and win's 4 out of the first 6 races the season could become very dull, very very quickly. Funny that the teams came up with a prefered option of increasing the points gap but it was rejected by Bernie in his wisdom - he knows best!
Fosse Boy Posted 18 March 2009 Posted 18 March 2009 Hmmmmm, I'm not sure about this one. In general I'm usually against engineered excitement through rule changes in pretty much any sport, but I think this could lead to some Dastardly & Muttley Wacky Races style madness. Might attract a few more people to watch F1 if they know that everyone's going for the win instead of playing a tactical positioning game throughout the season.
Sparky Posted 18 March 2009 Posted 18 March 2009 Button is 9/2 for the drivers title , the same price as Hamilton !!!! Whats that all about
Trav Le Bleu Posted 18 March 2009 Posted 18 March 2009 Not sure if anyone else has said this (I read back quite a way though), but I have one major worry. The big teams... Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, BMW... will only be out to WIN. What's going to happen if say Massa is 7th with 10 laps to go? Might as well pull him off and save the wear and tear on the car. I can see the big teams, whose only concern will be winning the championship outright, doing this. Also, the season could be over FAR earlier than normal. Say for example, we get this situation... Hamilton won 7 races Massa 2 Raikkonen 2 Alonso 1 Trulli 1 Season over with 4 races to go... even if Massa had finished EVERY race, been 2nd or 3rd when Hamilton had won, whereas Hamilton had 4 or 5 races where he had engine failure. Is a STOOPID idea!
Floating Fox Posted 18 March 2009 Posted 18 March 2009 Good point. Hopefully someone has thought of that and introduces something to stop them from doing so. I do think its a daft idea as well.
isaidno Posted 18 March 2009 Posted 18 March 2009 Renault have become the first team to say they will definitely use their new energy storage and power boost system (Kers) at the year's first race. The technology stores energy that would have been wasted while braking and allows drivers a boost of an extra 80bhp for seven seconds each lap. BMW were the first to say theirs was ready - but did not say whether they would use it in Australia on 29 March. The systems, similar to those in hybrid road cars, are optional in 2009. The systems will give teams that use them an advantage when it comes to overtaking due to the extra power available. But because of the weight of the Kers and the difficulty of packaging it brings compromises. McLaren and Ferrari have also not said whether they will use Kers in Australia. Williams, Toyota, Red Bull, Toro Rosso, Force India and Brawn GP will definitely not use it. Brawn, recent pace-setters in pre-season testing, would have to fundamentally redesign their car to fit a Kers system - which they are unlikely to do. If KERS proves to be an advantage, Renault & BMW will dominate.
Brainy Posted 18 March 2009 Posted 18 March 2009 Kovalainen was on form for McLaren today, he matched the times that Brawn were setting earlier in the week. What's going to happen if say Massa is 7th with 10 laps to go? Might as well pull him off and save the wear and tear on the car. I can see the big teams, whose only concern will be winning the championship outright, doing this. Doubt it, points finishes will still mean something, for the cars that are capable of winning races anyway. Teams like Force India could probably give up right now.
isaidno Posted 18 March 2009 Posted 18 March 2009 Kovalainen was on form for McLaren today, he matched the times that Brawn were setting earlier in the week.Doubt it, points finishes will still mean something, for the cars that are capable of winning races anyway. Teams like Force India could probably give up right now. Force India aren't gonna be fighting for the title. The new ruling will only affect the top 3 or drivers and teams like Force India & Torro Rosso won't be affected. They get rewards on were they finish in the constructors championship anyway.
isaidno Posted 19 March 2009 Posted 19 March 2009 I'm making my predictions now as I fly to Oz on Saturday. It's really open this season but I'm going for : Champion: Kubica Runner Up : Raikkonen 3rd: Massa Constructors Champions : Ferrari Runners up : BMW 3rd: Mclaren Australian Gp Kubica, Alonso, Hamilton
isaidno Posted 20 March 2009 Posted 20 March 2009 FOTA says points change is invalid Friday, 20 March 2009 00:00The Formula One Teams' Association says the FIA's decision to change the scoring system for 2009 is invalid and cannot be enforced. FOTA - which proposed an alternative points system but saw it rejected by the FIA World Motor Sport Council - claims that Formula 1 regulations do not allow such a change so close to the season unless all the teams are in agreement. "Following the decision of the World Motorsport Council of the 17 March 2009 to change the way the drivers’ championship is awarded, the Teams gathered and unanimously agreed to question the validity of this decision," said a FOTA statement. "The amendment to the sporting regulations proposed by the World Motorsport Council was not performed in accordance with the procedure provided for by Appendix 5 of the Sporting Regulations and, as per the provisions of the article 199 of the FIA International Sporting Code, it is too late for FIA to impose a change for the 2009 season that has not obtained the unanimous agreement of all the competitors properly entered into the 2009 Formula 1 Championship." The regulation in question says that changes to the sporting regulations have to be "published at least 20 days prior to the opening date for entry applications for the championship concerned" unless "the unanimous agreement of all competitors properly entered for the championship or series concerned is obtained." The teams body says it is willing to work with the FIA to implement a new system for 2010, but insists that the 'winner takes all' proposal cannot legally be imposed at this stage. "Since the change to the scoring system unanimously agreed by the Teams and proposed to FIA did not receive approval of the WMSC, no change can occur in 2009, and the Teams wish to reaffirm their willingness to collaborate with the FIA in order to jointly define a new point system for the 2010 season within a comprehensive set of measures aimed at further stimulating the attractiveness of the F1 Sport," said FOTA. It added that its own suggestion that the top eight scoring system be amended to a 12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1 points distribution had the backing of the fans surveyed by FOTA when it was devising its 'roadmap' for F1's future. "FOTA had made a proposal that was carefully based on the results of a Global Audience Survey, which allowed listening to preferences of the public, and all the Teams firmly believe that these indications should be properly taken into account
Brainy Posted 23 March 2009 Posted 23 March 2009 Albert Park in normal time I'm literally amazed. It's really ****ing incredible. So hard to believe that that is the actual circuit.
isaidno Posted 24 March 2009 Posted 24 March 2009 G'day sports, I'm here in melbourne. Collected my passes from the circuit yesterday. Not sure which corner i'm on yet, i'll let you know.
lildave3 Posted 24 March 2009 Posted 24 March 2009 Looking forward to this now. May even be tempted to get up at 7.
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