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Stuliasz

El Clasico

By Stuliasz, in General Football and Sport

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Haydos

Haydos

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Ronaldo gets all this 'diving' shit. Swear Messi's just as bad. Even had a quick look at the ref during his 7 rolls after a foul a min ago.

Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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Good job Ronaldo did score, other 85 minutes he was invisible again.

Real under Mourinho are like a Warnock side, kicking a team off the pitch. That Carvalho foul on Messi could be a red.

Haydos

Haydos

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Now grabbing his face and rolling around after being pushed on the back of the head.

Because it's Messi it's apparently 'frustration'.

Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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Ronaldo gets all this 'diving' shit. Swear Messi's just as bad. Even had a quick look at the ref during his 7 rolls after a foul a min ago.

To be fair at least Messi is usually touched before he rolls over.

ScouseFox

ScouseFox

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Yeah, I'd say the main difference is Ronaldo/Busquets/Pepe etc just roll round and moan for absolutely no reason, all game, whereas Messi occasionally exaggerates after having hs kneecaps smashed in for the eighteenth time in five minutes.

Haydos

Haydos

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lol Ronaldo gets constantly crunched all the time as well. I can understand because I agree that Messi is a lot more likeable but I just don't get how people have such different views on exactly the same thing.

Any imaginary card waving tonight?

Don't want it to become an international problem.

Plenty. Isn't it's origin in Spain?

ScouseFox

ScouseFox

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I don't watch Spanish football really, I'm basing this all on El Clasicos, and Ronaldo doesn't get half of what Messi gets from Ramos/Pepe/Carvalho etc.

Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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I watch it every week and it's not even a comparison what Ronaldo gets to Messi.

Anyone find a fouled stat?

Haydos

Haydos

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Why should the amount of times a player is fouled justify them rolling around on the floor, play acting, holding their faces, sneaking looks at the ref etc?

(Just for the record) Found this, think it's about a year old...

"Leo has suffered seventeen fouls in eleven games for a rate of 1.5 fouls suffered per game. Cristiano by contrariety has suffered 34 fouls in twelve games for a rate of 2.8 fouls suffered".

And this....

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Argentinean star Messi received 52 fouls in the 2011-2012 season, 29 of them in the league, which makes him the most targeted Barcelona player. But the most-fouled Barcelona player in the Spain's La Liga this season is actually

Sergio Busquets

with 32.

Messi receives an average of 89 fouls a season, taking the last two seasons into account. What is surprising is that Busquets, someone criticized for his propensity to go to the ground, has received the most fouls in the Barcelona team the last two seasons with 106. Its easy to make conclusions with those numbers.

For his part, Ronaldo surpasses both the Argentinean and Spanish players, receiving an average 110 fouls during each season. He is the most fouled player on the Real Madrid squad this year with 43. In the 2010-11 season, he was fouled 112 times and 108 in 2009-10."

So last season Ronaldo was fouled more than twice the number of times Messi was. Double....

ScouseFox

ScouseFox

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I don't think anybody is trying to justify it, merely suggesting why, as you asked, loads of people turn a blind eye to Messi hitting the deck yet react outrageously if it's anyone else. And being fouled, badly fouled, nigh on every time he touches the ball is why quite a few folk will be all "let him off, that is the seventh time he's been taken out off the ball, I'd be on the deck if I was him" sort of approach.

Haydos

Haydos

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The stats above suggest he's not fouled every time he touches the ball though. Not even close.

(I'm not saying he doesn't get a tough deal, I think they both do. And I don't have a favourite tbh, just think Ronaldo gets so much undeserved shit mostly from generalisations and exaggeration).

Darkon84

Darkon84

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Now grabbing his face and rolling around after being pushed on the back of the head.

Because it's Messi it's apparently 'frustration'.

This. (Though he IS amazingly amazing at being and amazing footballer)

El Clasicos bloody infuriate me. A game which is supposed to showcase the supposedly two best teams in the world, is completely overshadowed by ridiculous diving and play acting.

Pepe should be fooking kicked out of football for his disgraceful play acting when he went down like he had acid in his eyes after Cesc (I think) put his hand on Pepes shoulder (not to mention his defending on Barcas first goal).

A game that has flashes of brilliance and incredible skill gets ruined, and all anyone remembers is having to watch tossers like Biscuits and Pepe roll around like they are having a competition to see who can do the best impression of a limbless person trying to stand up.

Best league in the world.....MY ARSE!

StanSP

StanSP

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Stats from Barca's website on last night.

Barça had 72% of the possession away to their biggest rival.

- In total, Barça made 744 good passes compared to Madrid's 234.

- Xavi completed 122 of the 140 passes he made. Busquets made 109 out of 117. The best Madrid managed was Xabi Alonso's 35 out of 40.

- The visitors had 10 shots compared to the home side's five.

- Mourinho's side committed 20 fouls, while Guardiola's made just 12. Madrid also had more yellow cards: 4 against 3.

- Madrid only had one corner and Barça had eight.

- Puyol scored from a corner at the Bernabéu, a very similar action to his goal in the glorious 6-2 win at the same stadium in 2009.

- The corner was also taken by Xavi, who is one game short of the record number of clásico appearances held by the legendary Joan Segarra.

- Abidal scored his second official goal for the Catalan outfit. His other was last season at the San Mamés, and also in the cup.

- Leo Messi made his 300th official appearance for Barça and was able to celebrate by setting up the second goal with a majestic pass.

- The win means the teams are now tied on 86 wins each all time, while there have been 45 draws.

- Madrid have scored first in the last four meetings with Barcelona at the Bernabéu, but have not gone on to win any of the games. They have drawn one and lost three.

- Eighteen different Barça players have now scored this season.

- Gerard Piqué won far and away the most ball of the night, 16 in all.

Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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Astonished at the Ronaldo stats lol Watch Barca every week and Real most weeks and never would have thought that.

Those stats again just show the absolute gulf in class between the two sides, it's a shame Barca seem not to be arsed with the league this year, would be quite funny if Real won it with Barca beating them in every meeting mind.

Guest MattP

Guest MattP

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Boring.

Going to the Bernabeu and having 72% possession is quite staggering, not boring.

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