Leeds Player Ratings

[Stuliasz]

If you went to the game, please send your ratings in to www.player-ratings.com/rate. Discuss below.

[eye666]

Mostly 7's, 8's for Tunch, Hobbs and Oakley. Tunch again showed us how much he means to the team. Oakley played well and took his goal well. Hobbs was good apart from a few wayward clearances. Flapper Martin was good but I still cringe everytime a long ball is pumped into the box. Not sure what happened for their goal but looked like he missed a cross in the build-up. Gutted at the end but we played well. Leeds didn't look like doing anything until the last 5 mins. Was hoping Pearson would make another change, bring another defender on but alas not. Good passing and we pressed well when Leeds had the ball. Lloyd needs to find his form again. Howard did alright and Fryatt had some quality touches but no clear-cut chances. All in all, might well be a useful point. Hope we can bounce back and trounce Hereford.

[mmarkie]

Martin-7 got let off when berner cleared one of the line from his drop

Gilbert - 7 Not his best but ok.

Hobbs-8 Very good game

Tunchev-9 MOM for me good game

Berner-7 Good clearance off the line and did ok

Oakley-8 Great game and good goal

King-8 Best ive seen him

Davies-8 Please sign him

Dyer-7 Good game

Howard-7 Again played well

Fryatt-8 Worked hard and played well

[Fez of Mahrez]

Martin 7

Gilbert 7

Hobbs 7

Tunchev 8

Berner 7

Oakley 7

King 7

Davies 8

Dyer 6

Fryatt 7

Howard 7

[Asha]

Martin 7

Gilbert 7

Hobbs 6

Tunchev 8

Berner 7

Oakley 8

King 7

Davies 7

Dyer 6

Fryatt 6

Howard 7

Dickov 5

[Tilley]

Martin 7

Gilbert 7

Hobbs 7

Tunchev 8 - Simply quality.

Berner 6

Oakley 7

King 7 - Good performance, faded second half though.

Davies 8

Dyer 5 - Mmm, needs to find his early season form again.

Fryatt 7

Howard 7

[Simi]

Martin - 6

Gilbert - 6

Hobbs - 7

Tunchev - 8

Berner - 7

Oakley - 8

King - 7

Davies - 8

Dyer - 6

Howard - 7

Fryatt - 7.

[Cobbo]

Martin - 6 - Decision making with crosses was poor - punching one when wide of your goal is not good David. Catching then dropping under your bar is not good David. Do them the other way around.

Gilbert - 7

Hobbs - 7

Tunchev - 8 - Rock as ever, Leeds fans giving him stick on thefootballforum for diving and feigning injury. Well they can do one. Best defender in the Championship, let alone this pile of shit league.

Berner - 7

Oakley - 8 - trying to make things happen again, good strike too. Really has revelled in this role on the right.

Davies - 8 - sign him up, good quality and terrier like play in the middle.

King - 7 - same old without the goal.

Dyer - 6 - not creative enough even when given a bit more space than recently. Hope he can perk up soon.

Howard - 7 - won a lot in the air and great link up play. Cynically taken down when about to score from 25 yard....well, have a shot anyway.

Fryatt - 7 - some real quality dribbling and acceleration. He is looking so so good. Just no real chances today but all the other work was great.

[Ultra]

Some of the posters above appear to think we won the game comfortably.

Martin - 5 (to paraphrase Pearson, watching him gives me no confidence whatsoever)

Gilbert - 7 (was harshly punished for virtually his first lapse of concentration in the whole game)

Tunchev - 8* (his usual excellent self, never gave Beckford a sniff at goal)

Hobbs - 7 (improved after a shaky start)

Berner - 7 (some useful touches, sometimes dwelt too much on the ball though)

Oakley - 7 (superb first half, well-taken goal, faded badly late on though)

Davies - 7 (combative as ever)

King - 7 (best away performance for a long time, always in the game)

Dyer - 6 (subdued again, didn't trouble their defence as much as he could have done)

Howard - 7 (excellent first half before becoming frustrated and losing his way)

Fryatt - 7 (often troubled the home defence and set up Oakley's goal)

Dickov - n/a

Pearson - 6 (was a little over-cautious today and paid the penalty. Delayed the introduction of Dickov for too long)

Ref - 2 (Premier League? You're having a laugh)

Fans - 10. In superb voice throughout (both stands)

[clazkel]

Martin - 7 (worries me at times)

Gilbert - 7 (didn't get forward as much as previous games)

Hobbs - 7.5 (steady, too many hoof balls tho)

Tunchev - 8 (solid, afew hoof balls tho)

Berner - 8 (quality clearance off the line first half)

Oakley - 8 (closed down, worked really hard)

King - 7 (seemed to disappear in second half, really good first half)

Davies - 8 (some great runs, not scared to run with the ball, opens play up)

Dyer - 6 (seems to lack confidence at the minute)

Howard - 8 (won nearly everything in the air, tried to hold the ball up)

Fryatt - 7.5 (closed down, worked hard, set up Oakleys goal, shouldn't of been subbed)

[DJ Barry Hammond]

Martin - 7 - Fluffed a cross in the first half, but good take in the second

Gilbert - 7 - Good first half when in front of us, kept Robinson quiet, didn't see much of him second half, possibly because he was on the other side from us?

Tunchev - 8 - The man is class

Hobbs - 7 - Good, just not as good as the Tunch. Kept Leeds to shots from outside of the box for 89 minutes

Berner - 6 - Decent first half, but second half wasn't as good. Too many touches at times, then followed by horrible shanking. Don't copy their Left Back!

Oakley - 8 - Good workrate, well taken goal, but I'm not convinced that he should be a constant fixture on that right side. We lacked threat from the wings all day. Just a shame he didn't make more of the few corners we had, especially considering Leeds failings last week against the MK Dons.

Davies - 7 - A decent performance, I knew he was playing, but couldn't think of anything exceptional he did, except for the team yellow card he picked up. A good tatical foul.

King - 7- Kept things moving in midfield, always there to pick up lose balls and had composure about him. More impressed with him than I have been in other games I've seen him in.

Dyer - 7 - Some nice touches in places, but didn't do anything special, didn't do anything terrible. Needs to get his mojo back me thinks!

Howard - 8 MOM - He won almost every header. Was crying out for a decent cross to crack a header in I feel

Fryatt - 7 - Good work rate, troubled there defence when running at them. Didn't really get a clear cut chance to score. I see as part of his contract was that he takes all free kicks in scoring positions outside the box!

Dickov - 4 - The good work in closing down the back four, done by Fryatt and Howard for 80 minutes was un-done by Dickov's poor work rate. Surely he was supposed to go around being a pest up front, not just get beaten too easily, allowing time and space for the player with the ball to pick a pass.

Special Mentions

Sheehan - 3 - he was piss poor! Disapointed we didn't either give a shout of 'Sheehan give us a wave' or Stand up if you love Sheehan, with us all sitting down (except for Thracian.)

Crowd - 10 - Kept singing dispite the lack of encourgement from both the game and the oppositions fans. I think the Leeds fans were jealous of the 'Left Side/Right Side chant'

[Lovejoy]

Martin 4

Gilbert 6

Tunchev 7

Hobbs 7

Berner 6

Oakley 7

King 7

Davies 6.5

Dyer 6

Fryatt 6

Howard 8 MoM

[Thracian]

So far this season the impressions I've got from games I've listened to on the radio have seemed to mostly coincide with the player ratings I've read on here.

But I must have tuned into a different match today judging by the generous player ratings.

Cos from the radio City hardly seemed to have a shot, hardly seemed to string a cunning move together, seemed to hump the ball too much, rarely allowed Gilbert to play his usual and semed wholly content with simply holding onto their 1-0 lead instead of driving forward after another goal.

In fact it sounded as if everyone, team, fans and management, were happy to settle for a point.

[syston_fox]

Sheehan - 10

[DJ Barry Hammond]

So far this season the impressions I've got from games I've listened to on the radio have seemed to mostly coincide with the player ratings I've read on here.

But I must have tuned into a different match today judging by the generous player ratings.

Cos from the radio City hardly seemed to have a shot, hardly seemed to string a cunning move together, seemed to hump the ball too much, rarely allowed Gilbert to play his usual and semed wholly content with simply holding onto their 1-0 lead instead of driving forward after another goal.

In fact it sounded as if everyone, team, fans and management, were happy to settle for a point.

Quite often in top of the table clashes teams cancel each other out, or play it like a game of chess, not wanting to make a mistake and stay in the game rather than attempt to make that killer move but leave yourself open to attack.

There was lots of hard work, endevour and quality play in spells, but true not much threatening goal mouth action. The pitch wasn't great either, it was clear it was heavy and not great for turning on.

[Fez of Mahrez]

So far this season the impressions I've got from games I've listened to on the radio have seemed to mostly coincide with the player ratings I've read on here.

But I must have tuned into a different match today judging by the generous player ratings.

Cos from the radio City hardly seemed to have a shot, hardly seemed to string a cunning move together, seemed to hump the ball too much, rarely allowed Gilbert to play his usual and semed wholly content with simply holding onto their 1-0 lead instead of driving forward after another goal.

In fact it sounded as if everyone, team, fans and management, were happy to settle for a point.

Depends who you'd rather trust, a random assortment of 20-odd fans or Stringer (who I very much doubt criticised the performance anyway).

[Bert]

So far this season the impressions I've got from games I've listened to on the radio have seemed to mostly coincide with the player ratings I've read on here.

But I must have tuned into a different match today judging by the generous player ratings.

Cos from the radio City hardly seemed to have a shot, hardly seemed to string a cunning move together, seemed to hump the ball too much, rarely allowed Gilbert to play his usual and semed wholly content with simply holding onto their 1-0 lead instead of driving forward after another goal.

In fact it sounded as if everyone, team, fans and management, were happy to settle for a point.

You only hear what the commentator is saying though don't you.

You don't see the work-rate and all the other stuff that goes into a game.

Anyway....

Martin 5 - Made some brave calls when coming for balls, 1 costing a goal, 2 nearly costing goals.

Gilbert 7 - The usual Gilbert energy, covered well when he had to, rarely beaten.

Berner 6 - Quite solid in the first half, 2nd half looked un-easy defending their Kop, panicked with clearances.

Tunch 8 - Solid as a rock.

Hobbs 7 - Colossal in the air, brought the ball out of defence well.

Oakley 7 - A cracking finish to a decent goal, always tried to make things happen.

Dyer 6 - He always looks dangerous, although he isn't producing atm.

King 7 - Sat deep, got stuck in, won the ball, made a pass.

Davies 8 - Different class, fast, tackles well, runs with the ball well and again tries to make things happen, took a booking for the team with a clever little foul too.

Fryatt 7 - Great chasing, running and dribbling, no real chances today, although he did his bit for the team.

Howard 7 - Worked hard, won lots of balls and gave their back-line a hard time.

[Thracian]

Depends who you'd rather trust, a random assortment of 20-odd fans or Stringer (who I very much doubt criticised the performance anyway).

But they are not necessarily a random assortment are they? Often fans who post on here travel together and discuss the game long before they post on here. That has the effect of bringing views closer together.

Stringer wasn't critical. That was because our quick closing down once we scored so nearly produced the clean sheet we wanted and, as I mentioned, almost everyone seemed content that we should leave Elland Road with a draw.

Despite Hullfox's dig I've still read nothing that actually says that we didn't lose our goalscoring ambition after going ahead, didn't hoof the ball too much from defence, didn't hold Gilbert back in a defensive role and didn't give two points away because we lacked the courage and ambition to try to build on our lead.

If you can honestly tell me that wasn't the case then I'll be quite happy to believe you.

If it was the case I think it was poor tactics, just as I think the substitution was both poor and pointless.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

But they are not necessarily a random assortment are they? Often fans who post on here travel together and discuss the game long before they post on here. That has the effect of bringing views closer together.

Stringer wasn't critical. That was because our quick closing down once we scored so nearly produced the clean sheet we wanted and, as I mentioned, almost everyone seemed content that we should leave Elland Road with a draw.

Despite Hullfox's dig I've still read nothing that actually says that we didn't lose our goalscoring ambition after going ahead, didn't hoof the ball too much from defence, didn't hold Gilbert back in a defensive role and didn't give two points away because we lacked the courage and ambition to try to build on our lead.

If you can honestly tell me that wasn't the case then I'll be quite happy to believe you.

If it was the case I think it was poor tactics, just as I think the substitution was both poor and pointless.

The substiution was correct - both Fryatt and Howard were tiring, and were struggling to close down the back four as they had been doing for most of the game. As Howard was still doing a great job of winning headers and holding the ball up with the long ball going forward, as happens towards the end of a game, it was correct to take Fryatt off.

The disapoint was in Dickov's breif performance. He didn't run himself into the ground, he didn't do anything of note, so I would look more to him than the manager. It was the correct move, had he put on a midfielder and left Howard on his own, making a five man midfield it would have conceeded space to the wingbacks and defenders.

We scored midway through the first half, so to say we lost our goalscoring ambition is rubbish - second half we started brightly, had a couple of corners, and still passed the ball better than Leeds showed all half.

Leeds were literally hoofing the ball, and as we tired there was more time to hoof the ball forward with a bit more intent, and get bodies around the ball for the knock downs. That in turn meant we were clearing our lines more come the end of the game, again something you can't blame anyone for. You don't keep it tight by trying to play your way out of trouble in silly situations, you keep it simple.

As i've said before, it was a tight afair, there were no clear cut chances for either side except for the equaliser, Oakley just took his half chance well. End of the day, at the start of the season if you said we'd get a point at leeds to maintain our position at the top of the table I can't think of one person who wouldn't have taken it.

[Thracian]

The substiution was correct - both Fryatt and Howard were tiring, and were struggling to close down the back four as they had been doing for most of the game. As Howard was still doing a great job of winning headers and holding the ball up with the long ball going forward, as happens towards the end of a game, it was correct to take Fryatt off.

The disapoint was in Dickov's breif performance. He didn't run himself into the ground, he didn't do anything of note, so I would look more to him than the manager. It was the correct move, had he put on a midfielder and left Howard on his own, making a five man midfield it would have conceeded space to the wingbacks and defenders.

We scored midway through the first half, so to say we lost our goalscoring ambition is rubbish - second half we started brightly, had a couple of corners, and still passed the ball better than Leeds showed all half.

Leeds were literally hoofing the ball, and as we tired there was more time to hoof the ball forward with a bit more intent, and get bodies around the ball for the knock downs. That in turn meant we were clearing our lines more come the end of the game, again something you can't blame anyone for. You don't keep it tight by trying to play your way out of trouble in silly situations, you keep it simple.

As i've said before, it was a tight afair, there were no clear cut chances for either side except for the equaliser, Oakley just took his half chance well. End of the day, at the start of the season if you said we'd get a point at leeds to maintain our position at the top of the table I can't think of one person who wouldn't have taken it.

You don't get second and third goals in games unless you have the conviction to get men forward.

What you describe in Leeds is exactly what I imagined - an ordinary team who, feeling desperate, hadn't got the confidence to play much football but, instead, went route one.

They'd lost several games in a row for a reason and we treated them as if they were far better than they were. What was Dickov going to do to improve our situation?

Everyone knew that Sheehan was suspect on the turn and against people running at him but we didn't set out to exploit that.

That Pearson should prefer another fast-fading old timer instead of a guy who is always likely to cause problems is a reflection of what I anticipated pre-season - that when push came to shove he would always go for experience.

Well from all that I've heard and read it cost us yesterday. We donated two points because of a singular lack of ambition on the day.

[C-man]

Martin - 5 (I swear he was at fault for the goal. Even if he wasn't, he's still a bit of a vampire)

Gilbert - 6 (Other City player possibly at fault for the goal? Other than that, he had a good game)

Hobbs - 6 (Did well against Becchio and actually found some City shirts when passing)

Tunchev - 8 (Beckford who?)

Berner - 6 (Still unconvinced)

Oakley - 8 (Showed why he's our captain. He's really hitting form at the moment)

King - 7 (Made some crucial tackles and never gave the ball away, I love him)

Davies - 8 (Brilliant. Not afraid to give fouls away, and was always lively going forward)

Dyer - 6 (Come on Lloyd!)

Howard - 7 (Worked hard and linked up well with Goal Ace)

Fryatt - 7 (Impresses me more every game. Great work for the goal and his general skill level is a cut above this league)

[Collymore]

Martin-6 - Inspired no confidence in me at all, 1 good save when he got finger nails to a shot in the first half.

Gilbert - 6.5 - Shaky start but showed tremendous pace at times

Hobbs- 7 - solid enough

Tunchev- 8.5 -His positioning is out of this world, the amount of times he just appears in the right place is awe inspiring. Only slight gripe would be that he sometimes heads it straight back to their midfield when under no pressure.

Berner-7.5 - Mr Solid, great clearance off the line

Oakley-8.5 - Showed skill, heart and scored a great goal.

King- 8 - Worked hard, he's looking like a important piece on the chess board.

Davies- 9 - Frightening pace, brain - would love him to sign.

Dyer- 6.5 - I think Dyer is definitely good enough to step up another division, just think sometimes he switches off too much.

Howard-8 - Battle axe - Needs to learn how to disguise shoving a bit better though, Shearer was the best for it.

Fryatt-8 - Looked a different class first half and faded a bit 2nd. Great run for the assist showing it's not just goals he's playing for.

Dickov -n/a - You can see he hasn't got that chemistry Fryatt has with Howard (which is understandable)

Pearson - 7 - I said before the game I was prepared for a loss as we are allowed to lose every now. Just felt that we were falling too deep near the end which Pearson should have been on.

[Joe.]

Some of these ratings are quite generous aren't they?

[Collymore]

Some of these ratings are quite generous aren't they?

I thought we played quite well