Daggers Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 One of two British nationals detained in Venezuela for alleged drugs offences is wanted by police in the UK.Merseyside Police say that Paul Makin, 31, is wanted for affray and possession of an offensive weapon. An arrest warrant was issued after Mr Makin failed to appear at a Liverpool Crown Court hearing on 9 February. The pair were arrested at the airport of the Venezuelan island of Margarita, while allegedly carrying a large amount of cocaine hidden in three suitcases. Four children who were with them have been placed in the care of local social services. The Foreign and Commonwealth Office said it was providing consular assistance to the couple. No formal charges have yet been brought against the couple, who remain in custody on Margarita. A spokeswoman for First Choice Holidays confirmed that the couple were on a package holiday with the firm and were boarding a flight to London when they were arrested. The British consulate said it took any case involving young children very seriously, and members of the family are believed to be travelling to Venezuela to begin the process of bringing the children back to the UK. They have to be stupid - seriously stupid - to have attempted this. And to think that they took kids with them as cover? Wow. They seriously don't give a shit. Venezuela takes it seriously to be seen to have a strong line on drugs, they are ****ed. Police cells in Venezuela are unbelievably awful, covered in shit for a start off...and then they'll be moved to the prison on Margarita which makes the prisons in Prison Break look like the Hilton. And then they'll enjoy the facilities on the mainland and wish they'd never left Margarita (unless they end up near the Colombian border where Colombian drug money pays for a better level of service).
Dr The Singh Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 They have to be stupid - seriously stupid - to have attempted this. And to think that they took kids with them as cover? Wow. They seriously don't give a shit. Venezuela takes it seriously to be seen to have a strong line on drugs, they are ****ed.Police cells in Venezuela are unbelievably awful, covered in shit for a start off...and then they'll be moved to the prison on Margarita which makes the prisons in Prison Break look like the Hilton. And then they'll enjoy the facilities on the mainland and wish they'd never left Margarita (unless they end up near the Colombian border where Colombian drug money pays for a better level of service). I only wish UK prisons were the same!!!!
Daggers Posted 19 February 2009 Author Posted 19 February 2009 I only wish UK prisons were the same!!!! They certainly don't cost a lot of money to run. There again, you do have to go to all the trouble of steaming in now and then to beat or shoot inmates. I'm not sure we could find anyone willing to do that here.
Dr The Singh Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 They certainly don't cost a lot of money to run. There again, you do have to go to all the trouble of steaming in now and then to beat or shoot inmates. I'm not sure we could find anyone willing to do that here. I think rehab rates would be much higher, and re-offending would be near zero, unless your into the pain and punishment thing!!!
Edmund Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 Anyone ever watched banged up abroad. Sounds like this will be on there next series
Bellend Sebastian Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 "Hidden in three suitcases" That's inspired. No one would ever think to look for drugs in there
Edmund Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 Also this isn't a one off, this happens day in day out. Most probably the airport staff wern't payed off on this occasion. Liverpool is the dock for cocaine in England. It usually starts in columbia then to Venezuela or surrounding south american countries to look less bait when flying to europe, then amsterdam then liverpool. Been going on for years. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sunday-mirror/2007...98487-20157415/
Edmund Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 Not according to the UN Oh right fairplay. Although since when has the price of cocaine dropped? I don't use it myself but many of my friends do and they have complained that it has gone up in price.
Webbo Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 Anyone ever watched banged up abroad. Sounds like this will be on there next series There were 2 Leicester lads who went to jail in Venezuela for drug smuggling on that programme a few years ago. The prisons there were horrendous, prisoners with guns, the guards turning a blind eye to rampant violence and extortion. I really wouldn't want to be those scousers.
Shrenchel Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 what absolute morons. I heard sometimes the head honchos of the gangs even tip off the airport staff about idiots like this so that the authorities are seen to be doing something about the problem and aren't so borthered about letting the bigger consignments through. Oh right fairplay. Although since when has the price of cocaine dropped? I don't use it myself but many of my friends do and they have complained that it has gone up in price. Nah still on the way down. Small fluctuations depending how much local anesthetic, vitamin c powder and other shit they're banging into it at middle supply level probably. Mugs drug though.
BoneDog Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 Anyone ever watched banged up abroad. Sounds like this will be on there next series Quality programme. Love the one where they had a little boat
BoneDog Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 Obviously these lads didn't have CIA or police contacts. Everyone knows you need your 'service' friends if you gonna pull oat like this off. They don't like outsiders taking their profit. Hugo Chavez rules. I knew he'd win the referendum this week
Zingari Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 i wonder if their treatment in jail will act as deterrent
Edmund Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 There were 2 Leicester lads who went to jail in Venezuela for drug smuggling on that programme a few years ago. The prisons there were horrendous, prisoners with guns, the guards turning a blind eye to rampant violence and extortion. I really wouldn't want to be those scousers. Yeah I saw that one. That was the one when they by chance met up in the airport at the end. I heard sometimes the head honchos of the gangs even tip off the airport staff about idiots like this so that the authorities are seen to be doing something about the problem and aren't so borthered about letting the bigger consignments through. I think this is also true.
Daggers Posted 19 February 2009 Author Posted 19 February 2009 i wonder if their treatment in jail will act as deterrent
Head Honcho Posted 19 February 2009 Posted 19 February 2009 what absolute morons.I heard sometimes the head honchos of the gangs even tip off the airport staff about idiots like this so that the authorities are seen to be doing something about the problem and aren't so borthered about letting the bigger consignments through. Nah still on the way down. Small fluctuations depending how much local anesthetic, vitamin c powder and other shit they're banging into it at middle supply level probably. Mugs drug though. It wasn't me guv'nor
DB11 Posted 20 February 2009 Posted 20 February 2009 There were 2 Leicester lads who went to jail in Venezuela for drug smuggling on that programme a few years ago. The prisons there were horrendous, prisoners with guns, the guards turning a blind eye to rampant violence and extortion. I really wouldn't want to be those scousers. I wouldn't wanna be a scouser in any circumstances tbh
Corky Posted 20 February 2009 Posted 20 February 2009 I wouldn't wanna be a scouser in any circumstances tbh Very stereotypical young Danny.
Webbo Posted 22 February 2009 Posted 22 February 2009 I wouldn't wanna be a scouser in any circumstances tbh : Scouse scumbags have appeared on the Jeremy Kyle show.
Daggers Posted 22 February 2009 Author Posted 22 February 2009 :Scouse scumbags have appeared on the Jeremy Kyle show. *sigh* We used to go there almost every other weekend.
Webbo Posted 22 February 2009 Posted 22 February 2009 *sigh*We used to go there almost every other weekend. I was watching a programme on Hugo Chavez on BBC 4 the other night. The programme maker seemed to be sympathetic to Chavez and tried to show his regime in a positive light but to me it was a frightening insight into a socialist state. Basically the nationalised oil company runs everything in the country including health and education and anyone who is even suspected of not buying into the ideology is either re-educated or sacked. Obviously living conditions had improved for some but there were still thousands living in shanty towns. I just wonder what will happen when the oil runs out.
Daggers Posted 22 February 2009 Author Posted 22 February 2009 I was watching a programme on Hugo Chavez on BBC 4 the other night. The programme maker seemed to be sympathetic to Chavez and tried to show his regime in a positive light but to me it was a frightening insight into a socialist state.Basically the nationalised oil company runs everything in the country including health and education and anyone who is even suspected of not buying into the ideology is either re-educated or sacked. Obviously living conditions had improved for some but there were still thousands living in shanty towns. I just wonder what will happen when the oil runs out. ?How much do you think it would cost to build housing for 80% of the population? Chavez has achieved wonders and is working towards a country with 100% literacy, something we can but dream of. On top of that everyone now has direct access to medical and dental facilities. You can't judge this country with British values, it isn't Britain. He keeps being re-elected for very good reasons, because the electorate want him. For the history of the country, oligarchs and their corrupt "capitalist" system filtered money directly into their own bank accounts. They stuffed the judiciary with bent judges, the police forces were private security companies with the sole aim of protecting Los Ricos - **** the poor. They ran all of the media, all of the transports systems and all of the mineral resources - no money at all was put into infrastructure outside of the areas they lived in. Anyone not buying into the idea of the Revolucion Bolivariana has been removed from office, I see no problem with that - it's no different to what happens here with Quango appointments, this isn't a "socialist" thing. There is a two-fold aspect to this as well - those who still held posts of responsibility have twice attempted coups and had three attempted assassinations in cahoots with the CIA. Not to have removed them from critical posts would have been an act of stupidity. I can't say that everything he has done is brilliant - for example, he wanted to use the vast areas of the countryside for farming and setting up industrial units but it was all "owned" (stolen) by oligarchs. So he gave them four weeks to present their title deeds for recognition or face losing the land. Then there was an accidental fire in the processing office but land owners were still required to present their original, notary-stamped deeds (which were now nothing but ashes). Again, the opposition cried foul - his supporters just loved him more. You're right, oil runs the country - which is why he is building infrastructure, industry, export agreements, trading bodies. He is preparing the country for the future, for those who want to stay and make it work; the opposition would only do what they did...preparing their bank accounts in Miami for future emigration. He doesn't stand as a role model for socialism in this country - for a start, he gets things done...something Brown appears to have piss all ability doing. What he stands for is an ideal, one which you really can't appreciate without living and breathing Venezuelan air.
Webbo Posted 22 February 2009 Posted 22 February 2009 ?Anyone not buying into the idea of the Revolucion Bolivariana has been removed from office, I see no problem with that - it's no different to what happens here with Quango appointments, this isn't a "socialist" thing. There is a two-fold aspect to this as well - those who still held posts of responsibility have twice attempted coups and had three attempted assassinations in cahoots with the CIA. Not to have removed them from critical posts would have been an act of stupidity. I was talking more about teachers and oil workers rather than govt officials but even in this country the govt make a token effort at having a broad spectrum of views on quangos. However, I wouldn't dream of arguing about a country with someone who's lived there as opposed to having seen a programme about it.
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