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Sorry I should have expanded on this. Don't take it literally. Of course there brains were the same but what I meant to say was people didn't have the same intelligence in technology as we did today. Word was spread by mouth not t.v.

You didn't have science labs and people didn't know what a atom or molecule was.

There were definitely clever people as there has always been in all walks of life throughout the centuries. The egyptians created the wheel, says it all but it doesn't mean they were clever enough to decipher that the sun was not a god?

with the egyption thing i genuinly believe that they had some sort of technology that made it easy for them to create the pyramids as we havnt been able to recreate the pyramids ever since.

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Yes we are made up from atoms, but you stated that it was a fact that we were created from the Big Bang, and I was just pointing out it can't be a fact seeing as there is no proof. :thumbup:

well we were created by meteors that crashed into the earth thausands of years ago and the atoms started off the process of evolution that sees us as we are today

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with the egyption thing i genuinly believe that they had some sort of technology that made it easy for them to create the pyramids as we havnt been able to recreate the pyramids ever since.

I believe that a few ancient civilizations had technology perhaps more advanced than ours. Under the antarctic now I think there are cities that have been long covered. There are people there now doing digs on the downlow so they're after something.

Also if we look at the nazca lines, I've read that it would be impossible to make them without being able to fly, so they probably had machines that could fly like we have.

And I have seen pictures in pyramids of helicopters. In the hieroglyphics.

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Yes we are made up from atoms, but you stated that it was a fact that we were created from the Big Bang, and I was just pointing out it can't be a fact seeing as there is no proof. :thumbup:

You are right my mistake. :thumbup:

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Well I aint weak or naive. And I don't need to be guided by anyone.

There are plenty of people who believe in a creator who are some of the strongest minded people. I would say you are naive if you believe that all that exists is only what you can see or touch. Don't know about weak, never met you.

You do need to be guided...you are guided by your books, by your ministers and your church elders. Without their guidance and control the church and religion in general would colapse.

These strong minded people you talk about are the very people who control you.

Don't know about weak, never met you. No you havn't have you.

El Empty you talk like a fool.

If god or Jesus were important you would find their picture on the back of a Ten Pound Note. 'nuff said :whistle:

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well we were created by meteors that crashed into the earth thausands of years ago and the atoms started off the process of evolution that sees us as we are today

Like the other poster said it is not fact but anyone with a bit of logic knows this is the correct answer and these scientists have basically proven it.

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P.S What have dinosaurs got to do with anything? I know dinosaurs existed, but so did humans at the same time. Another fact

I believe it has to do with the fact Creationists believe that the world is only 6000 years old even though some fossils have been found that are millions of years old

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You do need to be guided...you are guided by your books, by your ministers and your church elders. Without their guidance and control the church and religion in general would colapse.

These strong minded people you talk about are the very people who control you.

Don't know about weak, never met you. No you havn't have you.

El Empty you talk like a fool.

If god or Jesus were important you would find their picture on the back of a Ten Pound Note. 'nuff said :whistle:

I'm not Christian so I don't follow any ministers or church elders! True religion is a personal thing, no need to follow anyone. No-one controls me but I think they do you!

Why would we find them on a ten pound note!! You look up to the people who decide who goes on a tenner do you? Them fools who are on notes have no respect from me. Just other establishment buddies. They hate you but you seem to love them! Keep on respectin the folks who hate you. Crazy fool

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I believe that a few ancient civilizations had technology perhaps more advanced than ours. Under the antarctic now I think there are cities that have been long covered. There are people there now doing digs on the downlow so they're after something.

Also if we look at the nazca lines, I've read that it would be impossible to make them without being able to fly, so they probably had machines that could fly like we have.

And I have seen pictures in pyramids of helicopters. In the hieroglyphics.

Come on don't be silly. Helicopters in the egyptian time?

Explained here

http://www.catchpenny.org/abydos.html

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I believe it has to do with the fact Creationists believe that the world is only 6000 years old even though some fossils have been found that are millions of years old

it's only Judaism that says the world is 6000 years old I think.

And as for the 'proof' that things have been found to be millions years old. This is also just conjecture because every single dating method has it's flaws. I put a report in another thread about this. From what I've read I would say more like 250,000 years old max

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I believe that a few ancient civilizations had technology perhaps more advanced than ours. Under the antarctic now I think there are cities that have been long covered. There are people there now doing digs on the downlow so they're after something.

Also if we look at the nazca lines, I've read that it would be impossible to make them without being able to fly, so they probably had machines that could fly like we have.

And I have seen pictures in pyramids of helicopters. In the hieroglyphics.

also i read somewhere that a scientist discovered a tomb of an aztec prince or princess and when he opened the tomb there were 2 flames billowing either side of the grave and no-one had been in the tomb for thausands of years

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also i read somewhere that a scientist discovered a tomb of an aztec prince or princess and when he opened the tomb there were 2 flames billowing either side of the grave and no-one had been in the tomb for thausands of years

easily explained, natural gas?

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Come on don't be silly. Helicopters in the egyptian time?

Explained here

http://www.catchpenny.org/abydos.html

That top left picture is exactly the same as our helicopters.

I'm not saying the egyptians had them, maybe some group of people 5000 years before them. Who knows, all I think is that picture is a helicopter.

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I'm not Christian so I don't follow any ministers or church elders! True religion is a personal thing, no need to follow anyone. No-one controls me but I think they do you!

Why would we find them on a ten pound note!! You look up to the people who decide who goes on a tenner do you? Them fools who are on notes have no respect from me. Just other establishment buddies. They hate you but you seem to love them! Keep on respectin the folks who hate you. Crazy fool

Because the most important person in recent history is on it...Darwin!!!

You seem to rambling now. You're not making an awful lot of sense.

Who's controling me?

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youve said its easily explained yet youre not sure of the explanation youve given

I was just throwing an idea at you!!! Im just saying its nothing special. Go to New Zealand theres natural gas coming out the ground everywhere. Volcanoes are on fire constantly.

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P.S What have dinosaurs got to do with anything? I know dinosaurs existed, but so did humans at the same time. Another fact

I'm sorry... but unless you are joking here all previous points have just lost all credibility if they had any with that statement... what a load of UTTER SH*TE!!!! If you believe that, then you're utterly deluded.

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well we were created by meteors that crashed into the earth thausands of years ago and the atoms started off the process of evolution that sees us as we are today

Evolution isn't like a chemical reaction, it's the result of natural selection, amongst other factors. I'm reluctant to believe such complex creatures could evolve from singular celled organisms.

youve said its easily explained yet youre not sure of the explanation youve given

But there may be other explanations, but natural gas is perfectly plausible, and was the first explanation that came to my mind too.

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And as for the 'proof' that things have been found to be millions years old. This is also just conjecture because every single dating method has it's flaws. I put a report in another thread about this. From what I've read I would say more like 250,000 years old max

Yep..difinately rambling now. You need to read some books by better informed authors. Carbon dating is extremely accurate.

We have fossils in Bradgate Park that date back to the Pre-Cambrian period. That's 4500 million years ago!

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it's only Judaism that says the world is 6000 years old I think.

And as for the 'proof' that things have been found to be millions years old. This is also just conjecture because every single dating method has it's flaws. I put a report in another thread about this. From what I've read I would say more like 250,000 years old max

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA!!!!! 250,000 years old!!!! What a load of CRAP!!!

Seriously you need a damn good slapping to wake you from this bible bashing stupor you seem to find yourself in!

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So let me just ask... do you think that humans were planted on this earth after having been 'created' by this 'God', that we have been around for nearly all of the earths existance, that nothing has ever evolved and that everything is the same as it was when earth first started?

Here's another little jem for you to get your teeth into... how come virtually all skeleton's that have been dug up from the past show that humans were considerably smaller in height than they are today? Surely that is part of evolution? Adapting to the times and surroundings?

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Here's another little jem for you to get your teeth into... how come virtually all skeleton's that have been dug up from the past show that humans were considerably smaller in height than they are today? Surely that is part of evolution? Adapting to the times and surroundings?

I think that's more to do with improved diets.

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