Sparky Posted 25 August 2010 Posted 25 August 2010 Id love it to come here but i wish we wern't so cocky about our bid.
The Doctor Posted 25 August 2010 Posted 25 August 2010 Id love it to come here but i wish we wern't so cocky about our bid. really? This bid is going to fail (sods law - they've been acting like they have it in the bag and as such they'll lose) and then all the higher ups involved with the bid are going to be made a fool of as the comments come back to bite them on the arse. It's mildly entertaining.
Maybes Posted 25 August 2010 Posted 25 August 2010 I'm all for having the world cup over here but building new plastic stadia that will be left half empty for club football doesn't exactly wet my willy with excitement.
Guest Bilo Posted 25 August 2010 Posted 25 August 2010 I'm all for having the world cup over here but building new plastic stadia that will be left half empty for club football doesn't exactly wet my willy with excitement. The idea of MK Dons and Plymouth bankrupting themselves to build 45,000 capacity stadia in order to host Togo v New Zealand does soften the blow though.
Ashley Posted 26 August 2010 Posted 26 August 2010 The FA are rubbing there hands together, they know we will get 2018 World Cup here. I said this would happen when Lampards goal wasn't given, it'll be FIFAs way of saying 'sorry'...
Edmund Posted 25 November 2010 Posted 25 November 2010 Spain and Portugal are currently favourites to win the bid. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9225637.stm South America to back Spain-Portugal 2018 World Cup bid Spain and Portugal's 2018 World Cup hopes have received a boost after South America's Conmebol federation came out in support of the joint Iberian bid. "The 10 countries are agreed to give the vote to Spain," said Conmebol's general secretary Eduardo Deluca. That translates into three votes for the Spain-Portugal bid on 2 December with Brazil, Paraguay and Argentina represented on Fifa's executive group. Conmebol had been expected to vote for Spain-Portugal rather than England. Russia and Netherlands-Belgium are the other countries competing to stage the 2018 event, while Australia, the United States, Qatar, Japan and South Korea are vying to stage the 2022 finals. The Conmebol meeting, held in the Paraguayan capital of Asuncion, did not discuss which country it will support for the 2022 finals, which will also be voted on at Fifa's Zurich headquarters on 2 December. Earlier this week the Spain-Portugal chief executive Miguel Angel Lopez claimed they already had secured as many as eight of the 22 Fifa votes - "All the fish is sold," said the Iberian head. Last week Fifa executive committee members Amos Adamu and Reynald Temarii were banned from voting in the 2018 and 2022 World Cup hosting ballot. Their exclusion leaves 22 members on Fifa's executive committee with Uefa having eight votes, Concacaf (three), Asia (four), and Oceania unable to vote following Temarii's ban. Fifa president Sepp Blatter also votes, with the world governing body chief also having the casting vote in the event of a tie, with the executive committee voting in rounds until one bidder has a simple majority. England can perhaps count on four first-round votes and must then hope to beat Russia and Holland-Belgium and then bring those votes on board to get past Spain/Portugal. Meanwhile, Lord Coe has advised England's 2018 World Cup bid team not to let the BBC's expose of Fifa affect the efforts they put into campaigning. The Panorama programme will be aired next Monday with the vote for the right to host the tournament held in Zurich three days later. "You have to focus on the job at hand," said London 2012 chairman Coe, who helped bring the Olympics to the city. "Outside noises are not going to stop you getting across the line." The 54-year-old Olympic gold medallist added: "It is really a very important discipline in the process of a bid to just simply focus on the messages. "You deliver those messages right to the moment where there is nowhere else to go and you maintain clear heads." The BBC programme will be the second media investigation into Fifa in recent weeks following a Sunday Times story that led to the banning of Adamu and Temarii. Last week, England 2018 chief executive Andy Anson accused the BBC of being "unpatriotic" and "sensationalist" by choosing to show the programme so close to the vote. Danny Jordaan, who was the head of South Africa's organising committee for the 2010 tournament, said he thought the impact of the media was being exaggerated. "I think it is being overstated, I don't think media will have an impact to such an extent to swing the decision one way or the other," he told BBC Sport. "People understand - before and after the bidding process, the media will be there and we must not over-react to what the media has put out there." While England will not have Conmebol's support the bid will have the backing of the recently engaged Prince William, who will be in Zurich with the England 2018 campaign team, which will also consist of Prime Minister David Cameron and England player David Beckham. Jordaan said having the voting for two tournaments taking place at the same time added to the intensity of the competition, and said that Fifa would not repeat the process in the future. "I think 2 December will come and go, the decision will be made and I think Fifa will look at the whole experience around 2018 and 2022," he said. "The president has already said they will not have two decisions to be made in one process. We will see what the learnings have been after the decision has been made."
CosbehFox Posted 25 November 2010 Posted 25 November 2010 I am not massively in support of our bid tbh as time's gone on, we appeared to have whore ourselves out. However, I think it's all wrong that a person can state their support for one bid. It should be secretive and banned until the voting stage. It's almost as they are waiting on the bids to offer benefits......
Fosse Boy Posted 25 November 2010 Posted 25 November 2010 I am not massively in support of our bid tbh as time's gone on, we appeared to have whore ourselves out. However, I think it's all wrong that a person can state their support for one bid. It should be secretive and banned until the voting stage. It's almost as they are waiting on the bids to offer benefits...... Agree, but what else are we to expect from one of the most corrupt organisations in sport? Back the bid - Iberia 2018.
Sparky Posted 25 November 2010 Posted 25 November 2010 Im desperate for 2018 to be here. Its a once in a lifetime oppotunity to be involved in the greatest show on earth. Regardless of what you think of the national team or the FA it would be awesome to host the fans of 32 nations. Leicester would be full of fans even though we are not a host city. Germany 2006 is the greatest trip ive ever been on.
Part Of The Crowd Posted 25 November 2010 Posted 25 November 2010 The idea of MK Dons and Plymouth bankrupting themselves to build 45,000 capacity stadia in order to host Togo v New Zealand does soften the blow though. We don't pay a fooking thing and we get our stadium finished for us. Another reason to hate the franchise.
Guest Bilo Posted 25 November 2010 Posted 25 November 2010 It's moot anyway, the World Cup isn't coming to England. Thank god.
surrifox Posted 25 November 2010 Posted 25 November 2010 wonderful- world football under blatter and a bunch of 3rd world sleazeballs red in tooth and claw!
ousefox Posted 25 November 2010 Posted 25 November 2010 We don't pay a fooking thing and we get our stadium finished for us. Another reason to hate the franchise. ooh lucky you, 7000 fans in a 45,000 stadium will be great every other week for you. The atmosphere will be electric. The 2018 bid is so shit we don't deserve to get it. How Plymouth, Forest and MK Dons will get games is beyond me.
iBleedLeicesterColours Posted 25 November 2010 Posted 25 November 2010 Im bias and selfish, but im still bitter Leicester didn't get to be a host city. I also feel sorry for Derby! Like you said MK and Plymouth having the World cup is a travisty in my opinion.
CosbehFox Posted 25 November 2010 Posted 25 November 2010 whens the decision made? Next week...2nd December. Be equally interesting who gets 2022; Qatar are heavily backed which is a joke when I think a lot of football supporters really want Aussie.
Part Of The Crowd Posted 26 November 2010 Posted 26 November 2010 ooh lucky you, 7000 fans in a 45,000 stadium will be great every other week for you. The atmosphere will be electric. The 2018 bid is so shit we don't deserve to get it. How Plymouth, Forest and MK Dons will get games is beyond me. Hey now, that's a damn lie! It'll be 8,000. The atmosphere can hardly be any worse than it is now, maybe with the added echo it'll sound like there's more about.
Mack Posted 26 November 2010 Posted 26 November 2010 Rumours are flying around journalistic circles that the Fifa delegates are hatching a plan that see the England bid knocked out of the voting at the very first round. You can forget us getting this, the media have once again ruined our chances.
Joe. Posted 26 November 2010 Posted 26 November 2010 Rumours are flying around journalistic circles that the Fifa delegates are hatching a plan that see the England bid knocked out of the voting at the very first round. You can forget us getting this, the media have once again ruined our chances. I wouldn't say so, I think you have to appreciate the true scale of just how corrupt FIFA and this whole process are. We all know we are the nation most well-equipped to get this, and we've all seen FIFA's reports which basically prove this (hotel and accommodation crap aside). Panorama's investigation could well be very interesting. Cretins like Jack Walker still remain in positions of immense power within the organisation and until people like him are out of this game (which won't happen) then things will continue as they are. If the decisions arrives that we haven't won this 2018 it won't be the media's fault (however much they may annoy certain quarters of the footballing world), it'll be the shady dealings of powerful executives who are handed the jobs of voting in this election. Put simply, we are still a country with values, and there are others in this race that would be far more willing to use corruption to get what they want.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 26 November 2010 Posted 26 November 2010 I've seen Qatars odds range from $1.20 to $11 wtf
Mack Posted 27 November 2010 Posted 27 November 2010 I wouldn't say so, I think you have to appreciate the true scale of just how corrupt FIFA and this whole process are. We all know we are the nation most well-equipped to get this, and we've all seen FIFA's reports which basically prove this (hotel and accommodation crap aside). Panorama's investigation could well be very interesting. Cretins like Jack Walker still remain in positions of immense power within the organisation and until people like him are out of this game (which won't happen) then things will continue as they are. If the decisions arrives that we haven't won this 2018 it won't be the media's fault (however much they may annoy certain quarters of the footballing world), it'll be the shady dealings of powerful executives who are handed the jobs of voting in this election. Put simply, we are still a country with values, and there are others in this race that would be far more willing to use corruption to get what they want. I wish I could join you in being so noble about this country. Sadly in my opinion you can replace moral with we are a nation fueled and run and media scandal, which is itself not fueled by money but by power. The media of this country are obsessed with power, and in the realm of sport they are the most powerful force in this country. Like you said, FIFA is a horrible corrupt organisation, and with a media as powerful as ours they are running as far away as they can in fear their cozy immoral lifestyles will be exposed. They have had a taste of what our media is capable of with the times and the panorama expose, and would far rather get in bed with a country that can control it's media and keep it's mouth shut. I would have personally played their game to get the world cup here, we deserve it. But how can you when our media is so unruly?
BlueSi13 Posted 27 November 2010 Posted 27 November 2010 I wish I could join you in being so noble about this country. Sadly in my opinion you can replace moral with we are a nation fueled and run and media scandal, which is itself not fueled by money but by power. The media of this country are obsessed with power, and in the realm of sport they are the most powerful force in this country. Like you said, FIFA is a horrible corrupt organisation, and with a media as powerful as ours they are running as far away as they can in fear their cozy immoral lifestyles will be exposed. They have had a taste of what our media is capable of with the times and the panorama expose, and would far rather get in bed with a country that can control it's media and keep it's mouth shut. I would have personally played their game to get the world cup here, we deserve it. But how can you when our media is so unruly? Sometimes, in fact a lot of the time i do have issues with some the media's all powerful influence in this country but surely this is the price we all must pay for journalistic freedom and right to expression and opinion. FIFA must understand that England is NOT Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union and if something untoward was discovered, it would be reported, this is FIFA's shame, not the English media and certainly not the English bid teams.
Mack Posted 27 November 2010 Posted 27 November 2010 Sometimes, in fact a lot of the time i do have issues with some the media's all powerful influence in this country but surely this is the price we all must pay for journalistic freedom and right to expression and opinion. FIFA must understand that England is NOT Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union and if something untoward was discovered, it would be reported, this is FIFA's shame, not the English media and certainly not the English bid teams. I agree with you mate. But look at this world, it's based on crooked deeds... MP's expenses Iraq war The Banks etc etc... The World is crooked, and lets not start to claim that the media in this country are a whiter than white bunch of knights in shining armor setting out to rid this earth of all evil. They are just as bent as the rest of the World, and from what I have heard the media involved used more than a little journalistic license to sensationalize the FIFA delegates story. Why cant this country, the birthplace of association football, getting the World Cup 2018 be THE story? Rather than an ugly scandal that has effectively ruined our chances. We all know bent dealings go on, play the game to your own advantage, and then when the deal is done if you want to expose shady dealings go for it.
Fosse Boy Posted 27 November 2010 Posted 27 November 2010 Panorama are only telling the truth. That's what good journalists do. It's not their job to do the the bidding of the FA, the 2018 bid or anyone else likely to line their pockets if England get the World Cup. The idea that they're getting panned for this for being "unpatriotic" or whatever is completely laughable.
Simmo86 Posted 28 November 2010 Posted 28 November 2010 Prefer Spain/Portugal to get it to be honest. Least I can get a tan while watching England be shit!
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