Prisoners of War under American control. Photos.

[Shrenchel]

Absolutely horrific.

NOT FOR THE SQUEAMISH! and there are a few dongs on display for anyone that's not really supposed to look at cocks during office hours.

http://csaction.org/TORTURE/TORTURE.html

[DB11]

That's horrible

[Dr The Singh]

It sad to see humans, torture each other in such a way!!!

[MarkDeVries]

[StanSP]

Same.

The people who pose aswell should be shot.

Shouldn't fight fire with fire and all that, but how can someone be THAT cruel and sickly?!

[Zingari]

Anyone who has read Sam Harris , "End Of Faith" , may not see the use of torture in such black and white terms .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-harris/i...ure_b_8993.html

[Shrenchel]

Anyone who has read Sam Harris , "End Of Faith" , may not see the use of torture in such black and white terms .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-harris/i...ure_b_8993.html

Even if buy into all that, these soldiers weren't to extract any information or confessions. They were just 'having a laugh.'

[Zingari]

Even if buy into all that, these soldiers weren't to extract any information or confessions. They were just 'having a laugh.'

Yes, you are probably correct and I've no doubt that there are many sadistic bstards ( on all sides ) .

I ( like most people )usually do not want to think about what goes on in theatres of war but Sam Harris's arguments for torture really are quite compelling if we examine ourselves deeply.

The film " a few good men " , brilliantly catches the darker side of humanity and justification of the horrific realities .

edit;

and we also have to remember that these sort of things could be faked

http://dinahlord.typepad.com/dinah_lord/20...rture-pics.html

just like britain's got talent

[lou]

An ex friend of mine was serving in Iraq when the war there was at its height and was based helping to run a POW camp over there. Some of things they did to the Iraqies there for "kicks" was horrendous. The things he witnessed sent him over the edge mentally and he ended up being discharged at 21 years old.

Im sure both sides would have done the same to eachother but its no excuse. Its all wrong whoevers doing it.

[Dr The Singh]

Yes, you are probably correct and I've no doubt that there are many sadistic bstards ( on all sides ) .

I ( like most people )usually do not want to think about what goes on in theatres of war but Sam Harris's arguments for torture really are quite compelling if we examine ourselves deeply.

The film " a few good men " , brilliantly catches the darker side of humanity and justification of the horrific realities .

In a war scenario, our acts are pushed to the edge, but alot of these were just mindless, which mocked the whole idea of subjegugating prisoners for info, it's the sort of acts seen by the likes of Indian officials whose whole purpose is to punish and humiliate those that do not conform to there way of thinking, ot teach a lesson!!

[Zingari]

In a war scenario, our acts are pushed to the edge, but alot of these were just mindless, which mocked the whole idea of subjegugating prisoners for info, it's the sort of acts seen by the likes of Indian officials whose whole purpose is to punish and humiliate those that do not conform to there way of thinking, ot teach a lesson!!

agreed Doc

But we "train" our fighting men and women to be virtually "mindless fighting machines" and then complain when they behave that way in our sight

It's like having a pit bull terrier in the house and complaining about it biting someone

But it is a very very delicate subject to talk about , and I'm sure most of us would gladly be kept in the dark with regard to the horrors that are deemed necessary by our military . Sadly, Its not all Captain Hurricane I'm afraid

[Dr The Singh]

agreed Doc

But we "train" our fighting men and women to be virtually "mindless fighting machines" and then complain when they behave that way in our sight

It's like having a pit bull terrier in the house and complaining about it biting someone

But it is a very very delicate subject to talk about , and I'm sure most of us would gladly be kept in the dark with regard to the horrors that are deemed necessary by our military . Sadly, Its not all Captain Hurricane I'm afraid

I dunno if that's the case, as i don't really have much contact with any soldiers, one would think that nobody would want to behave in such a manner and that one would know the difference between doing what's right and doing what's!! But, Soldiers are trained to follow orders, if orders have been given to torture then those that have given the orders must burden the blame also!!

[Asha]

I imagine the pictures are absolutely hurrendous, and can't really bring myself to look at them, so I won't.

Makes me sick though, some of the things our species do to each other for no valid reason.

[Libertine]

I imagine the pictures are absolutely hurrendous, and can't really bring myself to look at them, so I won't.

Makes me sick though, some of the things our species do to each other for no valid reason.

Some of the things our species do to any other species is even more sickening.

[Zingari]

I dunno if that's the case, as i don't really have much contact with any soldiers, one would think that nobody would want to behave in such a manner and that one would know the difference between doing what's right and doing what's!! But, Soldiers are trained to follow orders, if orders have been given to torture then those that have given the orders must burden the blame also!!

Mostly ( i believe ) the "orders" are of a surruptitious nature and couched in secrecy by the top brass so that they are never actually linked directly to any wrongdoing

Much the same way as Hitler organised the holocaust via esoteric language between him and other top brass such as

Reinhard Heydrich etc , ,

They clear their own trails to the orders

Cynical conspiracy theorist that I am , This is what I believe

[Thracian]

As far as I can see every single one of those victims have still got their heads - and the rest of their body parts too.

Pity we don't have a scrapbook from some of the fanatics who've captured and killed Western hostages or perhaps pictorial histories from the likes of Robert Mugabe or some of the despicable African regimes who have butchered their fellow countrymen indescribably.

Sitting a million miles away from the realities of warfare it is easy to condemn. See your pals blown to pieces after responding to an apparently friendly handshake or learning of their own torture and humiliation in the mountains just a few miles down the road provokes entirely different feelings.

Torture has never been the monopoly of the West. Places like the Lubyanka in Moscow were no holiday camps and many captured by the Japanese in the Second War will testify to the fact that their captors did far worse than anything seen on those pictures and turned torture into something of a sadistic art form. Try allowing bamboo shoots to grow through a victim for a start.

Other examples abound. The Germans with their heartless human experimentation, the IRA with their kneecapping, the list is endless and worldwide,

Get involved in any major conflict and a good many minor ones and you will soon be shocked by the lengths that protagonists will go to to get information out of one another and see the brutality of people driven by hatred and the desire for vengeance or to instil fear. It will never change whatever so-called rules of warfare are made.

Across the world there are many thousands of twisted people who actually enjoy the idea of inflicting the most hideous pain and humiliation on others.

We can do little or nothing about the actions of other nations and the religious fanatics or ethnic cleansers who shame the term "human being" but how good Christian Blair can justify lying in order to involve us in what has happened I will never know.

Is American or Al Qaeda torture somehow worse than that of Saddam Hussain? The pictures are just so much more emotional propaganda and reprsent nothing we didn't already know and hadn't already seen.

Nor are they anything knew in the concept of time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture#Use_of_torture

Of course they are appalling. but warfare is appalling. So was the Inquisition. So was the Hollocaust. So are counless individual acts of unspeakable violence in everyday life everywhere.

But in the great context of torture over time immemorial those images are actually way down the table in terms of horror.

[Jordan]

Even if buy into all that, these soldiers weren't to extract any information or confessions. They were just 'having a laugh.'

And, in many cases, they were ordered to do such stuff from persons that rank much higher than them on the chain of command. Much, much higher.

[Uncle Monty]

Nasty man.

[Edmund]

This

[Steven]

Anyone who has read Sam Harris , "End Of Faith" , may not see the use of torture in such black and white terms .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-harris/i...ure_b_8993.html

The use of torture surrenders all moral authority and without that what is it you are actually defending. <_<

[Fosse Boy]

Fucking disgusting, but will the twats responsible ever be held to account? Will they fuck.

[Guest]

fooking disgusting, but will the twats responsible ever be held to account? Will they fook.

11 US soldiers have been convicted so far.

I hope they rot.

[Fosse Boy]

11 US soldiers have been convicted so far.

I hope they rot.

Well, at least it's a start.

[Shrenchel]

11 US soldiers have been convicted so far.

I hope they rot.

Read an interview with the woman who you can see smoking a tab and pointing at the geezer being forced to have a wank. She did a few months inside and is now unemployed, living with her family in some small town in the south. She wasn't very apologetic.

[Guest]

Read an interview with the woman who you can see smoking a tab and pointing at the geezer being forced to have a wank. She did a few months inside and is now unemployed, living with her family in some small town in the south. She wasn't very apologetic.

I bet she still thinks she's done nothing wrong.