purpleronnie Posted 9 August 2009 Posted 9 August 2009 Having recently spent 2 weeks back in the UK I was surprised by the lack of media attention spent on the wars in Irag and Afghanistan maybe this is because coming from the states the wars are on the news and in the papers everyday, of course it was America who invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and casualties have been very large (around 4,000) but the UK is in comparison a small nation and has the 2nd highest death rate out of all the different countires who are serving in the wars. Its almost 8 years old I never thought I would see a war with my country being involved that would last that long or had so many casualties. Its reminisant of Vietnam as far as it was meant to be quick and easy but has dragged on for many more years than planned, vietnam of course had much higher casualties but there are similarities. Do you think that because it has been going on for so long its almost become a bore or just accepted that its going on and no-one really cares anymore? Its astonishing that this is going on and there seems to be no end to it and the death count just increases all the time. No more demonstrations?, are the young people of the UK concerned at all? I may not agree with whats going on but I Respect all those soldiers who are serving, have served and RIP to those who never made it home safe.
Zingari Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 if this prediction is anything like correct , how many more deaths ? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...itish-Army.html Afghanistan conflict could last 40 years, says new head of British Army General Sir David Richards, the new head of the British Army believes the West's mission to stabilise Afghanistan might take as long as 40 years.
Jon the Hat Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 I think in general people wish we had not invaded Iraq, but understand that walking away is not necessarily the best option. Mind you we are not really in Iraq anymore, agreeing terms for some training guys to stay in Basra I believe. As for Afghanistan, we have a long history with that country, and I don't think anyone believes there is a quick solution. Again walking away would leave a power vacuum and that is not necessarily a good option. It is of course sad that we lose soldiers, but for me at least, the focus is not on leave or stay, but on making sure the guys on the ground are well equipped for the job they are asked to do. They chose their career of course, but the government has a duty to make sure they have everything they need to maximise their chances of success.
Daggers Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 walking away would leave a power vacuum You'd think after all this time, and the mess the country is in, we could be just a bit more generous. Maybe a flat-screen TV and one of those fridges which makes ice cubes too?
Fox92 Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 Why are we there? What are we fighting for? I don't seem to understand, and poor young lives are getting killed everyday
Bellend Sebastian Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 I'm not making light of the loss of 375 of our serving personnel, but it shows how the nature of war has changed. In the first and second world wars we could lose that many people in the blink of an eye (and the rest) and it wouldn't even make the papers (and it might well have been censored anyway). I suppose it's a good thing that individual deaths get reported now, as I don't think it does anyone any harm to see the human side of the cost of war, and with any luck it stops people getting blase about the whole thing
Daggers Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 Why are we there?What are we fighting for? I don't seem to understand, and poor young lives are getting killed everyday That'll get you started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghan...2%80%93present)
Fox92 Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 That'll get you started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghan...2%80%93present) That'll prove a good read tonight then.
Jon the Hat Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 You'd think after all this time, and the mess the country is in, we could be just a bit more generous. Maybe a flat-screen TV and one of those fridges which makes ice cubes too? You have made the fatal western error of asuming everyone wants what we do. A fridge with an ice cube maker would be a bugger to maintain in the tribal areas. I am thinking maybe a few kettles and some of them patio heaters. Edit: Campingaz!!!
Daggers Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 You have made the fatal western error of asuming everyone wants what we do. A fridge with an ice cube maker would be a bugger to maintain in the tribal areas. I am thinking maybe a few kettles and some of them patio heaters.Edit: Campingaz!!! I refuse to believe that the entire world doesn't lust after a big American ice-making fridge. Refuse.
acooling08 Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 Stupid war, let the arabs blow each other up and murder each other. 375 british soldiers are worth far more than the whole of the middle east imo.
Guest Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 I refuse to believe that the entire world doesn't lust after a big American ice-making fridge.Refuse. I do. If Sir Fywny got me this - I would be one very happy bunny. Seriously.
Zingari Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 it looks like one of those fridges you see in cop shows , where they pull out the bodies from the drawer and someone like Taggart says " this wee gerrul's bin muddered "
Daggers Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 I would be one very happy bunny. Seriously. I'm prepared to offer sex to him or anyone else who buys me one of those. This is a time-limited offer: I don't last very long when aroused.
lou Posted 10 August 2009 Posted 10 August 2009 I'm prepared to offer sex to him or anyone else who buys me one of those.This is a time-limited offer: I don't last very long when aroused. Youd shag anyone for a big fridge??!! TART!
BlueSi13 Posted 11 August 2009 Posted 11 August 2009 Erm......yeah...... 375 deaths is a heartbreaking number, every one of those brave servicemen and women have been well publicized in the media and mourned by the nation as a whole..... this conflict is a tragedy to all those involved but i believe in 50 years time people will look back on it and agree that the war against the taliban is one that had to be won, only now are we realising how far their backward poison has spread with huge chunks of Pakistan (a nuclear power btw) under their control. I for one am proud we have such a dedicated and unbreakable force willing to do everything that they are asked to do and more, RIP
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 13 August 2009 Posted 13 August 2009 Only 375? More people died in Commando. Very bad taste, and not at all funny.
Jon the Hat Posted 13 August 2009 Posted 13 August 2009 only now are the media realising how far their backward poison has spread with huge chunks of Pakistan (a nuclear power btw) under their control. The Pakistani intelligence service founded the Taleban. So no real surprise there is strong support in Pakistan.
Dr The Singh Posted 13 August 2009 Posted 13 August 2009 The Pakistani intelligence service founded the Taleban. So no real surprise there is strong support in Pakistan. Very true, the ISI (porkistan's intelligence agency), recruited and have influenced the people of the tribal area to engage in this jihad, just like they have with the Kashmiri jihadis. You reap what you sow, both the US and Porkistan used the tribals for there own means and now those tribals have turned on them!!
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