MC Prussian Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Weale - 6 Berner - 6 Hobbs - 6 Brown - 3 Neilson - 6 Wellens - 6 Oakley - 5 N'Guessan - 2 Gallagher - 6 Fryatt - 5 Howard - 4 Subs: Tunchev - 7 King - 5 Waghorn - N/A
Sparky Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Weale - 6 Berner - 6 Hobbs - 6 Brown - 4 Neilson - 6 Wellens - 7 Oakley - 5 N'Guessan - 5 Gallagher - 6 Fryatt - 6 Howard - 6 Subs: Tunchev - 6 King - 6 Waghorn - 6 Fans who feel the need to sing Pearson sort it out - 0 Referee - 2 Abysmol Half time Steak and kidney pie - 2
dogadug Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Weale - 6 Berner - 7 MOTM Hobbs - 5.5 Brown - 4 Neilsson - 5.5 N'Guessan - 4.5 Oakley - 5.5 Wellens - 5.5 Gallagher - 6 Howard - 5 Fryatt - 6 Tunchev - 7 King - 4 Waghorn - 5.5
maddog Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Weale 6 Neilson 6 Hobbs 7 Brown 3 Berner 9 Gallagher 4 Oakley 5 Wellens 6 N'Guessan 5 Fryatt 5 Howard 5 Subs: Waghorn 6, King 4, Tunchev 8
lildave3 Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Berner was quality, really was. Tunch was back to his best, really is a class act.
Mikey Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Weale - 7 Neilson - 7 Hobbs - 6 Brown - 5 Berner - 9 N'Guessan - 6 Oakley - 6 Wellens - 7.5 Gallagher - 6 Fryatt - 7 Howard - 7 Subs: Tunch - 7.5 King - 6.5
potter3 Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Weale - 7 Neilson - 7 Hobbs - 7 Brown - 5 Berner - 8 N'Guessan - 6 Oakley - 6 Wellens - 7 Gallagher - 6 Fryatt - 7 Howard - 7 Subs: Tunch - 7 King - 6
Jimmy Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Weale 6 - communicate with your defenders Neilson 5 Hobbs 6 Brown 4 - had a bit of a mare with McLean and then suffered an injury to cap a poor night Berner 7 - played like a man on a mission second half N'Guessan 5 - not helped by a poor display from our central midfielders Oakley 5 Wellens 5 - both need to be more careful with their passes Gallagher 7 - came to life with the system change, but does need to impose himself more Fryatt 5 - could of marked him lower given those missed chances, he needs to take those at this level and stop looking for a 2nd or 3rd touch when 1 is all he should need Howard 6 - typical Howard really Tunchev 7 - the Tunch of last season reappeared, calm and assured with the ball and put McLean in his pocket King 6 - seemed to solidify the team just with his presence in front of the back 4 Wagghorn - N/A needs to be given longer then that to make a decent impression, 1 good run on the break which ended in a corner
clazkel Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Weale - 7 Berner - 8 Quality Hobbs - 6 Quiet game, didnt really notice him Brown - 5 Thought him having a go at Weale was unprofessional, esp when it looked like it was his fault. Got done for pace. Radio Leic have been bigging him up too much imo Nielson - 6 Tried to get forward second half but quality of crosses in the box were poor Gallagher - 6.5 Came into the game in the second half, very positive tries to open play Wellens - 6 Not his best game, gave ball away quite alot Oakley - 5.5 Quiet game, poor corners N'Guessan - 5.5 Didn't do much Fryatt - 6.5 Good penalty, gets in great positions, needs to do abit better in front of goal Howard - 6 Won Many headers but didnt threaten much Subs: King - 6.5 Had alot of control of midfield, good sub Tunchev - 7 Calmed the defence, great footballing brain Waghorn - 6.5 Made some great runs Would like Morrison to be back on the bench as we need a defender with some pace
FantasticMrFuchs Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Weale 6 Neilson 5 - Wasn't at his best Hobbs 6 Brown 5 - Not the only poor performer of the night Berner 7 - Solid MOTM N'Guessan 5 - Adams would of made a better impact Oakley 6 Wellens 5 - both need to be more careful with their passes Gallagher 6 - Better 2nd half, don't think he is the left side player we need. Fryatt 5 - .....................AVE IT! Howard 6 - Still not worthy of a super stevie howard chant Tunchev 7 - Worthy of his own chant King 6 Wagghorn - Not on long enough Ref 4 - Highlight of the evening seeing that luminous twot fall over Support - 8 Rocking up in L1,K & J tonight brilliant atmosphere for a Tuesday night
Ozwin Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 I thought that, it was banging for a Tuesday night game.
Thracian Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Weale 6 (Okay between the sticks on a quiet night but I was not impressed with his distribution). Neilson 6 (Stayed involved which is to his credit but rarely convincing although one low cross caused a bit of panic). Hobbs 6 (Steady but hardly under great pressure). Brown 4 (Off at half-time after costing us a goal. Seems it was for a shoulder injury rather than his performance.). Berner 7.5 (Timed his tackles well and thoughtfully. Tried to support going forward too but you'd never call him a dangerman). Gallagher 5 (What's he for?. Okay he had little spells where he made some space and threatened to do something useful but once again he looked a lightweight. Not fast enough, not strong enough, not determined enough and not involved enough for a striker and nowhere near dangerous enough to move out wide. I've yet to see any reason why we've signed him.). Oakley 5.5 (Huffed and puffed but had very little effect as, once again, we seemed lacking in central midfield especially in the first half). Wellens 6 (One great volleyed pass near the end - to Waghorn i think - but the chance of winning the game was squandered. Otherwise inconsequential and uninspired.). N'Guessan 4 (If that's what he calls earning his wages I wouldn't want to watch him on a bad day. Made about as much impact as a feather duster on a prison cell door. Can't remember him trying much let alone any of it coming off). Fryatt 6 (Entirely for his penalty that saved us the match and earned us a point. Shocking miss but he'll know that and, once again, he did time the run and create the chance which is more than any of his team-mates managed once again). Howard 5 (Disappointing. Won a few headers as usual but the opposition is using textbook methods to neutralise him by keeping him away from goal, picking up the flick ons and playing on the fat that he's never going to attack the box at speed. We really need some sensible alternatives). Subs: King 6 (We started passing the ball constructively once he arrived and the team looked much better balanced. He looked sharp again and involved himself enough to be seen to make mistakes. Two misguided passes to Neilson were the result of rustiness or misunderstanding but his careless defensive header inside might have been costly near the end). Tunchev 7 (Looked classy from the moment he arrived. Found lots of time on the ball and passed it simply and quickly). Waghorn 5 (Should have done better with Wellens pass - at least I think it was him - and, as usual, ran every which way to try and make an impact without any success).
TrickyTrev Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Weale 7 Looks the best keeper we have had since Walker Nielson 5 He is indecisive in defense and nothing short of useless going forward. In the second half we played a diamond which meant he had more space and freedom than any other attacking player on the pitch. He responded by chipping the ball down the line for a goal kick to Peterborough or clipping the ball so slowly into the box that not even Les Ferdinand, 2 yards out, could generate enough power to send it goalwards. This "solid but unspectacular" guff does not hide the fact we would be better off with John fooking Curtis right now. We need a new right back Hobbs 6 Noticeably better in the second half, but relatively blameless in comparison to his partner in the first. Brown 2 I always thought that if Frank Sinclair wasn't really fast and didn't have a great spring on him then he'd be a League 2 player at best. That man is Wayne Brown. He has made two awful mistakes for goals in the past two games and brings with him a general sense of panic. I won't mention what happens when he actually tries to pass the ball. The love-in for him on this forum bemuses me, he's a complete dinosaur. Berner 9 Surely the best left back in the division? Offers the sort of ball carrying and defensive decisiveness that we sorely lack on the other side. N'Guessen 6 I can tell he is going to frustrate many because he backs himself to beat players in tight situations and it doesn't always come off. But that confidence provided some of the few bright spots in a woeful first half and I thought he was very lucky to be the attacking player taken off in order to make room for, the necessary addition, of a holding player. Wellens 5 It didn't happen for him today at all, was misplacing passes all night. However, one ball he played with the outside of his right on the volley to Waghorn was delicious. Oakley 5 One of those "where the hell is Matt Oakley" performances. Gallagher 6 He clearly has poise, intelligence and a good passing range. Back all that up with evidently decent long range shooting ability and you have the makings of a decent Championship Number 10. I think he will turn out to be a decent player when we give up on Howard and actually use him there. Fryatt 6 Yes me missed a sitter but he kept plugging away and put himself forward to take the penalty. He now had 5 of our 6 goals this season, so I think criticism should be directed elsewhere. Howard 3 Has yet to score this season and has not liked doing so. This would be alright if his much lauded ability to bring others into play were not a complete myth. In reality his mobility is nowhere near the standard required for this league, his hold up play only exists if you give the ball directly to his feet or chest and is as such no better than that could be offered by any footballer. When people talk about Heskey's hold up play they refer to his physical abilities, stength AND pace, allowing him to get to balls collect them and hold onto them whilst others move around him as well as his ability to make himself an option whilst marked. Howard offers none of this. Right now he is offering us 2 or 3 flick ons a game at the cost of us playing loads of aimless long balls and only having a single goal threat in the whole team. It aint worth it. ********Subs******** Tunchev 8 Always good to have your best player back King 6 Almost combined with Nielson to gift them a last minute winner, but other than that I thought he played a few nice passes and definitely gave the midfield more shape. Waghorn N/A I like his movement, strength and pace. Seeing Gallagher and Wellens slip balls through for those two playing up top would be a pleasure. Pearson 6 Got the team wrong at the start, our midfield has shown signs of cracking the last 3 games now and it is obvious we need a holing player, however he had the conviction to sort this out as early as half time. He was also ruthless in hauling off Brown and rightly so. However, I thought we needed a wide midfield player on the right because we kept spreading the ball to Nielson who had no idea what to do with it. This would have decongested the centre of the pitch a little bit too. If we were going to play with Gallagher at the tip of the diamond we should have had two players he could have passed to instead of one, Howard was literally a waste of space.
TrickyTrev Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Brown - 5 Thought him having a go at Weale was unprofessional, esp when it looked like it was his fault. This. Watching Tunchev calmly orchestrate at the back and guide the defense through the second half was pleasant reminder of what leadership looks like.
Ozwin Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 This. Watching Tunchev calmly orchestrate at the back and guide the defense through the second half was pleasant reminder of what leadership looks like. A-FREAKIN'-MEN. Tunchev is a class above.
Jimmy Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 This. Watching Tunchev calmly orchestrate at the back and guide the defense through the second half was pleasant reminder of what leadership looks like. trust me keepers give as good as they get but in this case it was Weale's job to tell Brown to either clear it immediately or if he's gunna come and get it, just doing nothing leads to what we saw, which so easily could of seen the foul going the other way with Brown's night ending there and then
TrickyTrev Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 trust me keepers give as good as they get but in this case it was Weale's job to tell Brown to either clear it immediately or if he's gunna come and get it, just doing nothing leads to what we saw, which so easily could of seen the foul going the other way with Brown's night ending there and then He was trying to shepherd a barely rolling ball from just outside the centre circle. Weale was standing 20 yards away. It was clearly Brown's fault.
Jimmy Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 He was trying to shepherd a barely rolling ball from just outside the centre circle. Weale was standing 20 yards away. It was clearly Brown's fault. like I say if Weale had no interest in either coming or receiving a back pass he should be shouting either away or out to Brown as loud as he can, he can see the entire field and knows where McLean is in relation to the ball so should be barking orders at his defenders, at all times, they don't like it (I had more then 1 tell me to shut the fook up, with the manager then telling the defenders to listen to me) but it makes you a better organised team
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Brown 2 I always thought that if Frank Sinclair wasn't really fast and didn't have a great spring on him then he'd be a League 2 player at best. That man is Wayne Brown. He has made two awful mistakes for goals in the past two games and brings with him a general sense of panic. I won't mention what happens when he actually tries to pass the ball. The love-in for him on this forum bemuses me, he's a complete dinosaur.Berner 9 Surely the best left back in the division? Offers the sort of ball carrying and defensive decisiveness that we sorely lack on the other side. I am a little confused.....You don't like a love in for a player who except the last 2 games has been our most solid defender yet after a handful of ok performances Berner is the best left back in the division. Opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one and some seem to stink more than others.
Koke Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Gallagher 5 (What's he for?. Okay he had little spells where he made some space and threatened to do something useful but once again he looked a lightweight. Not fast enough, not strong enough, not determined enough and not involved enough for a striker and nowhere near dangerous enough to move out wide. I've yet to see any reason why we've signed him.). Harsh. Extremely harsh.
TrickyTrev Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 like I say if Weale had no interest in either coming or receiving a back pass he should be shouting either away or out to Brown as loud as he can, he can see the entire field and knows where McLean is in relation to the ball so should be barking orders at his defenders, at all times, they don't like it (I had more then 1 tell me to shut the fook up, with the manager then telling the defenders to listen to me) but it makes you a better organised team In most situations I would agree with you mate. I've played centre back at quite a high level and a goal keeper with a good reading of the game makes all the difference. However, I can't see how Weale is supposed to know that Brown was going to try and do what he tried to do. There was just so obviously no chance of the ball having enough momentum to get back to Weale that it would have crossed his mind to make a call as to whether he fancied it or otherwise. Either way, dishing out a rollocking should be reserved for people not putting in the effort or ignoring instructions. Not for players making honest mistakes. It just smacked of unprofessionalism.
Ultra Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Weale - 6 Neilson - 6 Hobbs - 5 Brown - 4 Berner - 7 N'Guessan - 4 Oakley - 5 Wellens - 6 Gallagher - 6 Howard - 5 Fryatt - 6 King - 6 Tunchev - 8* Waghorn - N/A
TrickyTrev Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 I am a little confused.....You don't like a love in for a player who except the last 2 games has been our most solid defender yet after a handful of ok performances Berner is the best left back in the division. Opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one and some seem to stink more than others. Berner was a better performer than Mattock last season and he has just signed for the best side in the division. He's been one of our better performers since he has been here, thats over a year, and is showing that he is more than capable of carrying that forward at this higher division. You make it sound like he has played 2 games for us. Wayne Brown has shown his limitations throughout his time at Leicester. He is somtimes panicy and always slow in defense and his distribution is that of a pub player. He has qualities that for some make up for these negatives, but I don't understand how. Sometimes he will have games where he keeps his mistakes to a minimum, and he clearly knows how to defend, and as such give solid performances. When he does I mark him as such. I still don't want a player that can't pass in the side. I don't think anyone can argue that tonight was a complete nightmare for him.
Jimmy Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 In most situations I would agree with you mate. I've played centre back at quite a high level and a goal keeper with a good reading of the game makes all the difference. However, I can't see how Weale is supposed to know that Brown was going to try and do what he tried to do. There was just so obviously no chance of the ball having enough momentum to get back to Weale that it would have crossed his mind to make a call as to whether he fancied it or otherwise.Either way, dishing out a rollocking should be reserved for people not putting in the effort or ignoring instructions. Not for players making honest mistakes. It just smacked of unprofessionalism. not the point I'm making, Weale should of made Browns mind up for him, he was clearly in two minds as to how to handle the situation, which is where Weale needed to tell him what he wanted him to do
Thracian Posted 15 September 2009 Posted 15 September 2009 Harsh. Extremely harsh. It might help the guy if he were played as a centre-forward which is where he says he's best. But it certainly wouldn't be as a holding player, a master of the air, or a whippet-type so perhaps I've missed something.
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