Optimism anyone?

[lou]

Bit of a muppet's answer, Lou. Perhaps you ought to do a history lesson on the previous regime's appalling tenure.

Maybe some toffs still do break the fox hunting laws but so do some ignorant slimeballs still break the non-smoking regulations. Shall we give all these heroes a medal then?

ok resort to name calling if thats your style Just because someone doesnt share your political views, thats a bit low. I didnt call you names

Youre obviously a Labour supporter and blinkered by that, I have lived through the "previous regime" so I dont need to do any history lessons thanks! Over 2 trillion pounds national debt (that they will admit to) and fighting a war in foreign countries with out of date (if any) equiptment leading to our forces losing their lives on a daily basis because were so skint as a nation is enough for me. Ferral youths killing innocent kids every day and getting softer sentences... if indeed our overstretched police force can catch them in the first place. <_<

If you think "banning" fox hunting is a more worth while cause than our armed forces then theyres not a lot else to say.... oh yes its just a bunch of toffs isnt it most fox-hunters are farmers for the record, and secondly I dont agree with it either but Im afraid I think theres far more important things than the amount of time spent debating the whole debarcle when they knew it was unpoliceable from the outset. Hunting attendances have risen since the ban

[l444ry]

ok resort to name calling if thats your style Just because someone doesnt share your political views, thats a bit low. I didnt call you names

Youre obviously a Labour supporter and blinkered by that, I have lived through the "previous regime" so I dont need to do any history lessons thanks! Over 2 trillion pounds national debt (that they will admit to) and fighting a war in foreign countries with out of date (if any) equiptment leading to our forces losing their lives on a daily basis because were so skint as a nation is enough for me. Ferral youths killing innocent kids every day and getting softer sentences... if indeed our overstretched police force can catch them in the first place. <_<

If you think "banning" fox hunting is a more worth while cause than our armed forces then theyres not a lot else to say.... oh yes its just a bunch of toffs isnt it most fox-hunters are farmers for the record, and secondly I dont agree with it either but Im afraid I think theres far more important things than the amount of time spent debating the whole debarcle when they knew it was unpoliceable from the outset. Hunting attendances have risen since the ban

Yeah, fighting a war that the Tories supported, and in debt because of the regulations bought in by the Tories. Hardly a recommendation for bringing them back is it?

For the record, I have never, nor ever would have voted for Tony Bliar. He turned a once great party into the Tories Mark II.

[Webbo]

1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s

2. Low mortgage rates

3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.35

4. Brought back matrons to hospital wards

5. Restored city-wide government to London

6. Child benefit up 25 per cent since 1997

7. Created Sure Start to help children from low income households

8. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & extra £100 for over-80s

9. Negotiated the historic Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland

10. All workers now have a right to 4 weeks’ paid holiday

11. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships

12. Banned fox hunting

13. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since the industrial revolution

14. Free TV licences for over-75s

15. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals

16. Waiting times for operations halved

17. Cancer death rates down by 12 per cent, saving 43,000 lives

So they've brought back matrons Horay! Lets vote them in so they can piss another £2 trillion up the wall.

You're a labour supporter so I can understand it. I was just the same in 1997 until I realised I was becoming the pub bore. Chill out mate you're making yourself look silly.

[lou]

Yeah, fighting a war that the Tories supported, and in debt because of the regulations bought in by the Tories. Hardly a recommendation for bringing them back is it?

For the record, I have never, nor ever would have voted for Tony Bliar. He turned a once great party into the Tories Mark II.

Funnily enough I had guessed that - Socialist Labour more your bag? Sorry but you cant blame all this on the Tories not after nearly 13 years, I credit you with far more intelligence than that to be honest.

[davieG]

They're both full of self seeking.......

I don't konw why I'm wasting my time, wouldn't trust a political party with making me a slice of toast.

[James.]

1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s

Yeah and you'll probably blame the Tories when that all comes undone because of the ridiculous amount of debt this country is now in.

[lou]

They're both full of self seeking.......

I don't konw why I'm wasting my time, wouldn't trust a political party with making me a slice of toast.

Which is more or less what I posted earlier but to insinuate this Government has done a good job is nothing short of ludicrous. God knows what the right alternative is? Im buggered if I know

[davieG]

Which is more or less what I posted earlier but to insinuate this Government has done a good job is nothing short of ludicrous. God knows what the right alternative is? Im buggered if I know

I used to be really into politics but disillusionment set in a long while ago, with each change in government bringing in an ever more corrupt, incompetent, self seeking, career MPs who are experts at do as I say not as I do and seemed to think progress is all about control and introducing law after law after law.

I could go on but I'm bored with them all.

Just to add ditto local government as well.

[Ford Super Sunday]

Yeah, fighting a war that the Tories supported, and in debt because of the regulations bought in by the Tories. Hardly a recommendation for bringing them back is it?

For the record, I have never, nor ever would have voted for Tony Bliar. He turned a once great party into the Tories Mark II.

You generally see this from Labour politicians and blind Labour supporters.

the Labour party have had 12 YEARS, 12 YEARS, to clean up this so called 'mess' that the Conservatives left (though I believe the country wasn't in the worst state ever in 1997)

12 YEARS... if that was the Tories you would be swinging and slating them for their performance, and all you can do is pin the blame all on the previous government that was in power, I'll say it again, 12 YEARS ago.

Also, when the Chancellor promises 'No more boom and bust' and then delivers a crippling recession, he's not exactly brilliant. Though I suppose that was the tories fault too.

[Head Honcho]

Yeah and you'll probably blame the Tories when that all comes undone because of the ridiculous amount of debt this country is now in.

...............but Cameron has already assured us that inflation will remain low if he's given his chance at the next election.

This is in fact a fundamental part of his grand masterplan to get the country out of debt.

[Webbo]

Yeah, fighting a war that the Tories supported, and in debt because of the regulations bought in by the Tories. Hardly a recommendation for bringing them back is it?

Which regulations would those be?

Btw the reason we're in debt is because Labour were spending more money than we were earning even at the height of the boom.

[lou]

I used to be really into politics but disillusionment set in a long while ago, with each change in government bringing in an ever more corrupt, incompetent, self seeking, career MPs who are experts at do as I say not as I do and seemed to think progress is all about control and introducing law after law after law.

I could go on but I'm bored with them all.

Just to add ditto local government as well.

I concur!

Im not a politics lover, Im not a highly educated person and a lot of it is right over my head to be honest (yes I probably am a muppet) but I have to vote for someone and try and secure the best future I can for my kids thats the only reason I do show a bit of an interest.

I know I dont want these morons in charge of my country any longer though.

[davieG]

We simply rely too much on the financial markets to earn the country any income, the country has been 'sold off' and with the financial markets in turmoil we're bound to suffer more than most. Things will get worse as well because the London stock Exchange is no longer the powerhouse it used to be.

Both political parties have been party to this and many politicians have lived a good life off of the back of it.

[l444ry]

You generally see this from Labour politicians and blind Labour supporters.

the Labour party have had 12 YEARS, 12 YEARS, to clean up this so called 'mess' that the Conservatives left (though I believe the country wasn't in the worst state ever in 1997)

12 YEARS... if that was the Tories you would be swinging and slating them for their performance, and all you can do is pin the blame all on the previous government that was in power, I'll say it again, 12 YEARS ago.

Also, when the Chancellor promises 'No more boom and bust' and then delivers a crippling recession, he's not exactly brilliant. Though I suppose that was the tories fault too.

This government did not deliver a "crippling recession". Free market capitalism did.

As for the debt, if Labour had not saved the banks and put money into the economy to alleviate the inevitable then we would have been in a full blown slump by now.

Surely that is obvious, isn't it?

[MPH]

I suggest you do a history check on the Grantham Granny and the Galloping Major as well if you call that effort an argument!!

nice cop out.

And honestly.... resulting to name calling against someone Like Lou will lose any credibility you may of once held...

[l444ry]

nice cop out.

And honestly.... resulting to name calling against someone Like Lou will lose any credibility you may of once held...

By calling Lou's reply a "Muppet's answer", I was meaning a "silly answer" - not calling Lou names!!!

[MPH]

By calling Lou's reply a "Muppet's answer", I was meaning a "silly answer" - not calling Lou names!!!

I think she'll appreciate the clarification!

[BoneDog]

Which is more or less what I posted earlier but to insinuate this Government has done a good job is nothing short of ludicrous. God knows what the right alternative is Im buggered if I know

You're correct, He does

The only alternative in my opinion is a good old fashioned revolution. But even then it wouldn't take long for the people in the shadows to take control again.

Basically we are in the hands of these elite and it doesn't matter which party is in power cos no Prime-Minister ever has real control over things.

Come the next election we will have a Conservative government. They are being backed (with hard cash and the propaganda machine) by the same zionist groups who are behind the US government. So it is already a done deal fo real

[BoneDog]

Which regulations would those be?

Btw the reason we're in debt is because Labour were spending more money than we were earning even at the height of the boom.

The reason we are in debt is because we are spending billions on unending wars. Billions and billions. I think the US has spent trillions in the last 8 years

Not sure if this site is right but it is frightening if so costofwar And all for what?

This link is 2 years old and it talks of trillions! It's 'cking ridiculous when we think of what they are doing with our taxes

WashingtonPost

[ozleicester]

An interesting note.

The Liberal party (conservative) in australia, was in power from 1996-2007, pretty much the same time frames as Labour in the UK.

In that time we have had amazingly similar results lifestyle changes, pretty much says that the people in power dont actually do anything themselves, we are all part of a worldwide economy.

as an aside.. how the hell can the "Liberal" party be conservative???

[l444ry]

So they've brought back matrons Horay! Lets vote them in so they can piss another £2 trillion up the wall.

You're a labour supporter so I can understand it. I was just the same in 1997 until I realised I was becoming the pub bore. Chill out mate you're making yourself look silly.

Why don't you bore a hole in yourself and let the sap run out?

Your head is obviously as empty on these issues as a eunuch's underpants.

[Webbo]

Why don't you bore a hole in yourself and let the sap run out?

Your head is obviously as empty on these issues as a eunuch's underpants.