davieG Posted 12 May 2010 Author Posted 12 May 2010 How much will power be a factor in keeping the Liberals in govt? How many of them will sell their souls to stay in power? It's the first time they have been in power for nearly a century (excluding WWII). I can't see them throwing away power too easily and being in coalition may destroy them at the next election (some time within the next year) Didn't want to start a new topic for this. not if they legislate for 5 year term parliaments it'll be in 2015.
Daggers Posted 12 May 2010 Posted 12 May 2010 Er, hello, I cleared that all up. Brown has GONE. He's left politics, there's going to be a by-election in his constituency and someone else will take his place as a back-bencher. Where - because I can't see you citing a source in this thread and nowhere in the mainstream press is there any mention of him leaving politics, causing a by-election.
l444ry Posted 12 May 2010 Posted 12 May 2010 not if they legislate for 5 year term parliaments it'll be in 2015. They could still be subject to losing a vote of no confidence in parliament, thereby causing an election. Unlikely, but you never know. However, crafty Cameron and Ramsay McClegg are trying to sidestep this by attempting to raise the current 50% needed to win one up to 55%.
Jon the Hat Posted 12 May 2010 Posted 12 May 2010 not if they legislate for 5 year term parliaments it'll be in 2015. And there will be a LibDem minister in every department. Real coalition. Wow.
davieG Posted 12 May 2010 Author Posted 12 May 2010 And there will be a LibDem minister in every department. Real coalition. Wow. Relevance
Flynny Posted 12 May 2010 Posted 12 May 2010 I'm not pessimistic about this anymore. We're all social liberals now, by the looks of it. Read an interesting article saying that the Liberals and wet Tory MP's coalescing is the ultimate triumph of the old Whigs, which is certainly an interesting historical perspective. Clegg and Cameron are very similar politicians, the only thing that will hold them back from making this work is that they have to strain against the bungee cords of their parliamentary parties dragging them away from one another to the left and the right.
Flynny Posted 12 May 2010 Posted 12 May 2010 This is amazing! Worrying amounts of fox-like bias seeping through the calm exterior there. "I ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THIS COUNTRY" at the end. Christ.
FoxyPV Posted 12 May 2010 Posted 12 May 2010 Brilliant - Throwing accusations of being unelected at Alastair Campbell was absolute genius. Boulton is a fooking moron.
l444ry Posted 12 May 2010 Posted 12 May 2010 This is amazing! Worrying amounts of fox-like bias seeping through the calm exterior there. "I ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THIS COUNTRY" at the end. Christ. Ofcom have received over 1500 complaints about Adam "Tory Twat " Boulton and Kay Burley over their bias towards the Tory Party. Being one of Murdochs media arms it was always going to be slavish towards Cameron, however it must take a special type of arse kissing to get 1500 people to actually complain about it. To watch Adam "Tory Twat" Boulton in full right wing nutter mode at Campbell when Bad Al outed him on Sky News was something to behold. If they were like this before their golden boy arrived at Number 10 how much cheer leading will they do to try and keep Project Condem afloat?
Jon the Hat Posted 12 May 2010 Posted 12 May 2010 Ofcom have received over 1500 complaints about Adam "Tory Twat " Boulton and Kay Burley over their bias towards the Tory Party. Being one of Murdochs media arms it was always going to be slavish towards Cameron, however it must take a special type of arse kissing to get 1500 people to actually complain about it. To watch Adam "Tory Twat" Boulton in full right wing nutter mode at Campbell when Bad Al outed him on Sky News was something to behold. If they were like this before their golden boy arrived at Number 10 how much cheer leading will they do to try and keep Project Condem afloat? Painful isn't it. On the other hand how in the name of god did the BBC line up ed balls to be talking while Cameron was at the Palace?
Guest DavidJCW Posted 12 May 2010 Posted 12 May 2010 Where - because I can't see you citing a source in this thread and nowhere in the mainstream press is there any mention of him leaving politics, causing a by-election. Well as I was at home and already had the news channel on, I sat watching the entire event from the moment it broke to the very end so I think I'd know. The BBC's political correspondent Laura Kuensberg quite clearly stated that Brown was resigning as PM and as Labour leader with immediate effect. Not only this but he was leaving politics forcing a by-election in his constituency. Also, I suggest searching "Brown leaves politics" in Google and you might get a few hits on it.
Flynny Posted 12 May 2010 Posted 12 May 2010 For once Campbell making an understandable point. I like him in front of the cameras, beats him sitting behind the scenes pulling the strings.
Webbo Posted 12 May 2010 Posted 12 May 2010 I want to know why I'm not considered a biased party politico.If anyone makes Finners skin crawl it ought to be me.
davieG Posted 12 May 2010 Author Posted 12 May 2010 I want to know why I'm not considered a biased party politico.If anyone makes Finners skin crawl it ought to be me. Words to describe you are not publishable!
Guest DavidJCW Posted 12 May 2010 Posted 12 May 2010 Well as I was at home and already had the news channel on, I sat watching the entire event from the moment it broke to the very end so I think I'd know. The BBC's political correspondent Laura Kuensberg quite clearly stated that Brown was resigning as PM and as Labour leader with immediate effect. Not only this but he was leaving politics forcing a by-election in his constituency. Also, I suggest searching "Brown leaves politics" in Google and you might get a few hits on it. However, it would seem that this link on the BBC contradicts that view... leaves me very confused as they quite clearly said he was going forcing a by-election and there are many other links talking about what he'll do now he's gone... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8675913.stm
Daggers Posted 12 May 2010 Posted 12 May 2010 Also, I suggest searching "Brown leaves politics" in Google and you might get a few hits on it. Shame you didn't do that search yourself and read the results then seeing as it produces nothing more than conjecture due to the fact that he has not announced his retirement from politics, has not announced a by-election for his seat and not discussed the matter with anyone to date. Brown’s decision to step down does not necessarily mean the 59-year-old’s political career is over. He could remain in Parliament after stepping down as leader, as former Conservative Prime Minister John Major did. Or, like Blair, he could quit soon afterward.
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