Finnegan Posted 19 September 2010 Posted 19 September 2010 I hate how people cite how well English clubs have done in the Champions League as an excuse for high ticket prices. I couldn't give a fvck. I care about Leicester and England and I'm forced to pay top dollar to see them but that's alright as long as Manchester United stuff the whole of Europe.... oh wait. :appl: Seriously. And I wouldn't mind if it was all for the greater good and England were a brilliant side as a result. But what's the point of having "the best league in the world" if you can really only watch it on telly? It might as well be being played in Dubai.
Fosse Boy Posted 19 September 2010 Posted 19 September 2010 :appl: Seriously. And I wouldn't mind if it was all for the greater good and England were a brilliant side as a result. But what's the point of having "the best league in the world" if you can really only watch it on telly? It might as well be being played in Dubai. It probably will be sooner rather then later. Scudawhore's still convinced the 39th game proposal can work.
James. Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 Germany are basically better than us at pretty much everything.
CosbehFox Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 Germany are basically better than us at pretty much everything. Well, it works the other way too. Had a German work experience girl in recently, didn't wanna go back as Germany was (to quote) 'too uniform'. They even have more immigrants. This is true....but big country = more jobs = more manufacturing. Their biggest wave was Turks post-war, just West Indies post-war here. They passed a law too which restricts immigrants right to work in unskilled labour and encourage academics and professionals to the country.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 It is totally tight, and I don't see what is so commendable about them boycotting the game. Just seems totally petty, those boycotting the game will probably end up going shopping somewhere to fill their time and spend £19 anyway. It's a petulant reaction from the fans, they should be grateful for those prices. Things go up in price as time goes on whether it be a football ticket or a loaf of bread, it's natural inflation, they're acting like spoilt children. The reason for the boycott was because the price hike was something Schalke devised to pay the wages of the likes of Raul etc, that's where the problem lies. They're Dortmund's biggest rivals, anything that can put them in the shit will be done. It's got nothing at all to do with inflation. *And the Bundesliga in general doesn't need to raise prices, it's the most profitable league in the world. In the 08-09 season, German clubs made £146.1 million worth of profit, in comparison top the £79 million of Premier League teams, mainly because they don't spent lavish amounts on wages.
FoxyPV Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 The reason for the boycott was because the price hike was something Schalke devised to pay the wages of the likes of Raul etc, that's where the problem lies. They're Dortmund's biggest rivals, anything that can put them in the shit will be done. It's got nothing at all to do with inflation. *And the Bundesliga in general doesn't need to raise prices, it's the most profitable league in the world mainly because they don't ALL spend lavish amounts on wages. Bayern pay their top stars around £130k a week (Mr Honnigstein as my source) and I'm sure the other top teams do the same but I daresay the german equivalent of Wigan / West Ham don't pay their players over £40k a week. This is one of the things that the UK misses out on being an island off of Europe as the rest of mainland europe has benefitted much more from having a social democracy as their basis for govt (even the right have to adhere to this) rather than liberal capitalism. The PL is the prime example of free market capitalism - they have a popular commodity and have found those willing to pay for it, once establishing this market they can hike the prices accordingly and as MTWG said we don't have a culture of direct action protests so the clubs have little to fear. They propagate this market through the exaltation of the top few and their success worldwide (mainly in commercial terms but sometimes in footablling terms) and any notion of a salary cap, reduction of ticket prices etc is shouted down by playing on fears of a drop in standards as all the mercenaries, sorry footballers, will go else where and thus harming the Best League in the World (even though only three teams max can win it and it is horrendously uncompetitive) and this then filters down to the fans who accept this verbatim (of course grumbling about but doing nothing) and perpetuate the same argument by demanding instant success which of course has to be bought as they don't have the time to develop home grown talent etc and so the circle continues....
lildave3 Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 Bayern pay their top stars around £130k a week (Mr Honnigstein as my source) and I'm sure the other top teams do the same but I daresay the german equivalent of Wigan / West Ham don't pay their players over £40k a week. This is one of the things that the UK misses out on being an island off of Europe as the rest of mainland europe has benefitted much more from having a social democracy as their basis for govt (even the right have to adhere to this) rather than liberal capitalism. The PL is the prime example of free market capitalism - they have a popular commodity and have found those willing to pay for it, once establishing this market they can hike the prices accordingly and as MTWG said we don't have a culture of direct action protests so the clubs have little to fear. They propagate this market through the exaltation of the top few and their success worldwide (mainly in commercial terms but sometimes in footablling terms) and any notion of a salary cap, reduction of ticket prices etc is shouted down by playing on fears of a drop in standards as all the mercenaries, sorry footballers, will go else where and thus harming the Best League in the World (even though only three teams max can win it and it is horrendously uncompetitive) and this then filters down to the fans who accept this verbatim (of course grumbling about but doing nothing) and perpetuate the same argument by demanding instant success which of course has to be bought as they don't have the time to develop home grown talent etc and so the circle continues.... Kieron Dyer is on almost double that allegedly.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 Keiron Dyer has a stupid amount of caps for England considering how wank he is.
BlueSi13 Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 I live in Germany...football here is ok....not the paradise some back home believe it to be. My club out here is 1860 Munich, and we pay more per ticket than at the City and the atmosphere is usually non-existant (yes that would partly to do with them playing in the Allianz which is about 4 times too big for them but still...just my 2 cents. Both countries have positives and negatives.
LCFC-ARAB Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 Just watched the highlights of the game and the Dortmund end still looked packed, although going on official attendances it was about a thousand below Shalke 04's home game before. not sure if only having 60,000 people instead of 61,000 people will make any difference what so ever but the principle was right
purpleronnie Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 I live in Germany...football here is ok....not the paradise some back home believe it to be. My club out here is 1860 Munich, and we pay more per ticket than at the City and the atmosphere is usually non-existant (yes that would partly to do with them playing in the Allianz which is about 4 times too big for them but still...just my 2 cents. Both countries have positives and negatives. Having been to germany a few times, I would say thats the exception rather than the rule though, reverse that in england thesedays.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 Seen the highlights, Kagawa
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