CheshireFox Posted 19 September 2010 Posted 19 September 2010 what is it with this forum- DJ's gone so now we have to have a million threads slagging off someone, so lets pick on Fryatt, even though if he is given the correct formation in support he has proved that he can score and play well at this level? we were playing the league leaders, and from what i can gather it was tactical decisions made by Sousa which helped us not get anything out of this. However, i'm not suggesting we now have a million threads slagging off Sousa instead. how about we get behind the team instead of insulting them constantly? i think this is sometimes moving away from constructive critiscism and towards creating a scapegoat. its not just down to the striker to carry the can. how about someone moans about Gallagher shooting from too far out over and over, meaning a wasted striking opportunity and everyone back down the other end of the field and start all over again?
HonradaRaposa Posted 19 September 2010 Posted 19 September 2010 The guy is a con artist and for the second Saturday on the trot he has been a disgrace to the shirt. All those trying to defend him about challenging for long balls, ask yourself why our players were having to do that. It was because Fryatt was so static he didn't want to know, but it's another appearance bonus on top of his inflated salary so he'll be more than happy. Still he finished behind Beckford and Lambart in the League One goal scoring charts 2 years ago for that we must be forever thankful and forgive him any type of tripe effort in the name of our Club.
caz05 Posted 19 September 2010 Posted 19 September 2010 what is it with this forum- DJ's gone so now we have to have a million threads slagging off someone, so lets pick on Fryatt, even though if he is given the correct formation in support he has proved that he can score and play well at this level? we were playing the league leaders, and from what i can gather it was tactical decisions made by Sousa which helped us not get anything out of this. However, i'm not suggesting we now have a million threads slagging off Sousa instead. how about we get behind the team instead of insulting them constantly? i think this is sometimes moving away from constructive critiscism and towards creating a scapegoat. its not just down to the striker to carry the can. how about someone moans about Gallagher shooting from too far out over and over, meaning a wasted striking opportunity and everyone back down the other end of the field and start all over again?
accessory Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 The guy is a con artist and for the second Saturday on the trot he has been a disgrace to the shirt. All those trying to defend him about challenging for long balls, ask yourself why our players were having to do that. It was because Fryatt was so static he didn't want to know, but it's another appearance bonus on top of his inflated salary so he'll be more than happy. Still he finished behind Beckford and Lambart in the League One goal scoring charts 2 years ago for that we must be forever thankful and forgive him any type of tripe effort in the name of our Club. In the time he's been here (nearly five years) Fryatt has failed to convince me that he is anything better than an average Championship striker. It amazes me that some on here consider him the new Gary Lineker, unless Walkers are looking for an understudy for the crisp ads.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 In the time he's been here (nearly five years) Fryatt has failed to convince me that he is anything better than an average Championship striker. It amazes me that some on here consider him the new Gary Lineker, unless Walkers are looking for an understudy for the crisp ads. I totally agree. The guy tries hard enough, but really is just very, very, average.
Sooper Steve's shin Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 I don't think he's rubbish, but he is certainly not suited to the way we played on Saturday. He definitely has more of a striker's instinct than Howard, but unfortunately Big Steve plays the lone striker role better if only because he brings the supporting players (Dyer, King, Waghorn) into the game. Fryatt doesn't do that, but you could see when Howard came on to play alongside him that he is much better suited to that kind of setup. I think Sousa just has to have the courage of his convictions. If 4-2-3-1 is the way we are going to play, then we need to bring in players who will suit that system. I don't believe that Fryatt has a role in it unless he can adapt his game and I would maybe say the same for Gallagher - both would thrive as a secondary striker, but don't have the game to play the lone role up front or the pace/energy to play the Waghorn/Dyer roles. I do think Gallagher could play the King role though, but he would probably have to be content with acting as understudy at the moment; not sure Fryatt could do that, so I don't see much future for him in Sousa's plans.
Sooper Steve's shin Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 PS That's not necessarily a criticism of Sousa, who has only just joined and will still be working through his squad. I think he has to give everyone a chance to show what they can do and I believe he's done that. Paulo will now be much more aware of what works and what doesn't than he was even at the end of pre-season, but the transfer window system means he is pretty much stuck with what he has until at least January. In the time he had over the summer to review, assess and improve the squad, I don't think he could be blamed for not making the changes that we can all see are needed now. It would have been as unfair to have expected Sousa to try and offlad the likes of Howard, Oakley etc in the few weeks that he had as much as it would have been unfair not to give them a chance.
North-LondonFox Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 Not satisfied with hounding one good striker out of the club (DJ) we now want to turn on another. Matty has always done his best for City and when he's really sharp can be a top player at this level, I remember how he ripped Newcastle apart last season. Please can we try and be a bit more positive about our players - it reminds me of certain United fans slating Berbatov last season....
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 I dont undertand why it is seemingly impossible for Fryatt to win a single header up front. Yes, he is playing against some big CB's but he is hardly small he is at least average height but all he does is jump and get no where near it. Its quite frustrating really, I appreciate he is no Stvie howard in the air but not to win one header is disappointing.
HonradaRaposa Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 Not satisfied with hounding one good striker out of the club (DJ) we now want to turn on another. Matty has always done his best for City and when he's really sharp can be a top player at this level, I remember how he ripped Newcastle apart last season. Please can we try and be a bit more positive about our players - it reminds me of certain United fans slating Berbatov last season.... You clearly were not at Coventry or the Walkers on Saturday to see his gutless, apathetic and disrespectful performances. If you are willing for your loyalty, to him, be bent over and shafterd jailhouse style then more fool you
CosbehFox Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 he played that role most of last season as well and he didn't moan and lets face it, Pearson's side hit it long more often then we do now He didn't. He played there between Xmas until his injury and the long balls were often aimed towards one of the wingers. Similarly Waghorn couldn't head a ball to save his life either when it was one up front. Defintely needs someone to play alongside him but I am struggling to defend his form this season.
caz05 Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 You clearly were not at Coventry or the Walkers on Saturday to see his gutless, apathetic and disrespectful performances. If you are willing for your loyalty, to him, be bent over and shafterd jailhouse style then more fool you You really are one sad pathetic person arent you
caz05 Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 Not satisfied with hounding one good striker out of the club (DJ) we now want to turn on another. Matty has always done his best for City and when he's really sharp can be a top player at this level, I remember how he ripped Newcastle apart last season. Please can we try and be a bit more positive about our players - it reminds me of certain United fans slating Berbatov last season.... Yes but so called fans dont remember these times do they,thier not happy unless 1 or more of our players are being ripped to shreds
lou Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 Dunno how shit he has to play before some people will accept any criticism of this guy!!?? Deluded! Hes a decent League 1 striker - that is all. Hes done feck all so far this season (including pre-season) and I'll be amazed if he does either. Lets all blame everyone else bar the man himself eh? Wish we had sold him and got James Vaughan back
lou Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 He looked like he was sulking. He has done for a while IMO
caz05 Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 Dunno how shit he has to play before some people will accept any criticism of this guy!!?? Deluded! Hes a decent League 1 striker - that is all. Hes done feck all so far this season (including pre-season) and I'll be amazed if he does either. Lets all blame everyone else bar the man himself eh? Wish we had sold him and got James Vaughan back Hes hardly fooking played,cos sousa spent too much time sucking up to a player that didnt want to be here,rather than playing the ones that did. Id be fooking sulking
North-LondonFox Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 You clearly were not at Coventry or the Walkers on Saturday to see his gutless, apathetic and disrespectful performances. If you are willing for your loyalty, to him, be bent over and shafterd jailhouse style then more fool you I suppose I just understand that certain players lose form and confidence because they are human. I remember being at the Walkers numerous times seeing bitter, unhappy cretins slating DJ Campbell and loving every minute of doing it and then I watch and see him tearing Forest to shreds for Blackpool and think if only we'd got behind him this kid really has something. Have it your way lets slate a good player until he fooks off and does a great job for one of our rivals.
caz05 Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 I suppose I just understand that certain players lose form and confidence because they are human. I remember being at the Walkers numerous times seeing bitter, unhappy cretins slating DJ Campbell and loving every minute of doing it and then I watch and see him tearing Forest to shreds for Blackpool and think if only we'd got behind him this kid really has something. Have it your way lets slate a good player until he fooks off and does a great job for one of our rivals. It will be waggy next if he doesnt score in the next couple of games
North-LondonFox Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 It will be waggy next if he doesnt score in the next couple of games hahahahahaha - the worst thing is it wouldn't actually surprise me!
Adster Posted 20 September 2010 Posted 20 September 2010 To be fair fryatts service is extremely poor.
leftsideoverhere Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 Hes hardly fooking played,cos sousa spent too much time sucking up to a player that didnt want to be here,rather than playing the ones that did. Id be fooking sulking Christ on a bike. Sousa put DJ in the shop window in a couple of games. DJ scored more goals than Fryatt both in pre-season and since the season's started, and the net result of that was that Holloway finally put his hand in his chairman's pocket and funded the purchase of Waghorn. And you're slating Sousa for that? Nonsense.
tomtom Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 I've said it once, i'll say it again Fryatt can't play up front on his own or as the central forward of the 3, he needs a big man to play off and if we stick with the 4-2-3-1 formation he will be a casulaity sooner or later regardless
leftsideoverhere Posted 21 September 2010 Posted 21 September 2010 Not satisfied with hounding one good striker out of the club (DJ) we now want to turn on another. Matty has always done his best for City and when he's really sharp can be a top player at this level, I remember how he ripped Newcastle apart last season. Please can we try and be a bit more positive about our players - it reminds me of certain United fans slating Berbatov last season.... Do you remember how he finished that move? Fryatt's not shit, and he's not a disgrace to the shirt, and he's not any of the other playground-style insults people have been throwing his way in this thread. But he's sure as fooking hell not Berbatov, either. Lou's nailed it. He's a good league one striker, and a moderate championship one. He's done good for the club but he takes too many touches, and he makes too many bad decisions - passing when he should shoot, and shooting when he should pass. He could play a role for us, but no way should he walk in to the side. And if he wants to go somewhere where he's guaranteed a start, then so be it.
HonradaRaposa Posted 22 September 2010 Posted 22 September 2010 Any player who doesn't bother their arse is a disgrace to the shirt and that is Matt Fryatt.
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