rabbid Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 As for the Poll tax riots nobody gave a shit about those soap dodgers, the opinion polls had more to do with it being scrapped than rent a mob. Absolute shit. But I agree with your opinion of protests when it comes to football. If you want to protest about the rampant idiocy running around in the club then send your season ticket back or don't go on Saturday. Supporters opinions dont matter to the club any more they just want your money. Stop giving it to them, let the Mercury no why and the message will soon get home. But most of you wont have the bollocks to do it.
hackneyfox Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 I feel more angry about the lack of clarity about the takeover and the identity of the club owners. That I would protest about. The takeover is going through. Extra investors will be named WHEN they join. What is the problem? And why do some people have a problem with academies in Thailand, it dosn't them or the club a penny. It may even raise money for the club. And this constant talk of all od Sousa's signings being poor, well Abe looks good, and when the two Portugese get a run in their proper positions then they may well come good. Neilson was an NFP signing Oakley was constantly played by NFP Morrisson was signed by NFP Brown was already gone. People not being happy about changing tactics is also bull, last year eceryone complained that we didn't have a Plan B. The squad we had last year, prior to the loans coming in, was awful, about the same as this years. I'm not defending Sousa here, just asking that people think things through before posting, what appears at times, to be hysterical knee jerk reactions.
Matt Posted 29 September 2010 Author Posted 29 September 2010 The takeover is going through. Extra investors will be named WHEN they join. What is the problem? And why do some people have a problem with academies in Thailand, it dosn't them or the club a penny. It may even raise money for the club. And this constant talk of all od Sousa's signings being poor, well Abe looks good, and when the two Portugese get a run in their proper positions then they may well come good. Neilson was an NFP signing Oakley was constantly played by NFP Morrisson was signed by NFP Brown was already gone. People not being happy about changing tactics is also bull, last year eceryone complained that we didn't have a Plan B. The squad we had last year, prior to the loans coming in, was awful, about the same as this years. I'm not defending Sousa here, just asking that people think things through before posting, what appears at times, to be hysterical knee jerk reactions. Not even going to begin picking the bones out of that.
hackneyfox Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 There's a lack of respect to the fans concerning the very identity of the club and the ramifications for future finances. I don't want to be associated with a club that turns into being a laughing stock like Portsmouth, Notts County etc. You've supported Leicester since 1957 but you've never seen us be a 'laughing stock' before? Come on, how many times have we been already?
hackneyfox Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 Not even going to begin picking the bones out of that. Matt Don't fob me off, discuss it, pick the bones out of it, your happy to throw your poor opinion of Sousa about all over the place. Explain to me why my points are wrong
Webbo Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 People not being happy about changing tactics is also bull, last year eceryone complained that we didn't have a Plan B. This year we haven't even got a Plan A.
Jackirius Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 If the team are gonna win, they'll win. Why get behind the team?
hackneyfox Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 That's the kind of knee jerk hysterical comment that I'm talking about.
Matt Posted 29 September 2010 Author Posted 29 September 2010 The takeover is going through. Extra investors will be named WHEN they join. What is the problem? And why do some people have a problem with academies in Thailand, it dosn't them or the club a penny. It may even raise money for the club. And this constant talk of all od Sousa's signings being poor, well Abe looks good, and when the two Portugese get a run in their proper positions then they may well come good. Neilson was an NFP signing Oakley was constantly played by NFP Morrisson was signed by NFP Brown was already gone. People not being happy about changing tactics is also bull, last year eceryone complained that we didn't have a Plan B. The squad we had last year, prior to the loans coming in, was awful, about the same as this years. I'm not defending Sousa here, just asking that people think things through before posting, what appears at times, to be hysterical knee jerk reactions. "All talk of Sousa's signings abeing poor, well Abe looks good, and when the two Portugese get a run in their proper positions then they may well come good." Abe - Thai signing, Not Sousa. 'When the two Portugese get a run in their proper positions then they may well come good.' - I think Sousa is incapable of a) Given players a run - Chopping and changing every game, again I think Sousa is incapable of playing many players in proper positions, and then may well come good...they just as easily may well stay bad. Neilson was a NFP signing - Possibly one of not many praises I have for Sousa, Neilson was shit under NP, Come quite good under Sousa. Oakley - in a winning team. Morrison - Good under Pearson, Bad, Awful under Sousa. Brown, Gone as you say, don't quite see your point. [i'm gonna 'steal' one of Webbo here too] "People not being happy about changing tactics is also bull, last year eceryone complained that we didn't have a Plan B." - This year we don't even have a plan A. "The squad we had last year, prior to loans coming, was awful, about the same as this years" - But guess what, The manager last year did something about it, What's Sousa doing and done? "I'm not defending Sousa here, just asking that people think things through before postng, what appears at times, to be hysterical knee jerk reactions." - I myself called people's comments after 2 or 3 games knee jerk reactions, Now we are 9 games down the line, rock bottom, conceaded 22 goals, won 1, drew 2, and lost 6, and tbh can't really see where our next win is coming from. I think conceading 22 goals for a start is alarming, and losing 6 out of 9 games is also alarming and more than knee jerk reactions. Bold - Hackney Fox Normal type - Matt.
Leicester_Mad Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 If what you are saying is so set in stone that we cant affect things then why get behind the team? Yeah the players and manager come out and say thanks for the support etc but in all honesty the manager and half of the players really dont give a shit about us. A protest wont affect what happens so why will getting behind them? If its all so set in stone that we cant affect it why do we even bother?
unreachable Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 You've supported Leicester since 1957 but you've never seen us be a 'laughing stock' before? Come on, how many times have we been already? I can see from your scattergun rant that you're frustrated and lashing out. Join the club. My post specifically dealt with the current and immediate future. Perhaps you would quote the details of the takeover and the identity of the clubs owners since I have not seen any details. Ian Stringer and the press have been unable to extract much detail. The delay in ratification may be affecting our current financial position and ability to make the signings that Sousa may be demanding.
hackneyfox Posted 29 September 2010 Posted 29 September 2010 "All talk of Sousa's signings abeing poor, well Abe looks good, and when the two Portugese get a run in their proper positions then they may well come good." Abe - Thai signing, Not Sousa. 'When the two Portugese get a run in their proper positions then they may well come good.' - I think Sousa is incapable of a) Given players a run - Chopping and changing every game, again I think Sousa is incapable of playing many players in proper positions, and then may well come good...they just as easily may well stay bad. But they haven't been bad, the best midfield was with Moreno in it, due to Vitor's injury he was forced to play at centre half and Vitor has played one game, due to injury Neilson was a NFP signing - Possibly one of not many praises I have for Sousa, Neilson was shit under NP, Come quite good under Sousa. Oakley - in a winning team. Morrison - Good under Pearson, Bad, Awful under Sousa. Disagree, Morrisson was awful at center back alongside Hobbs last year. Brown, Gone as you say, don't quite see your point. That him missing is the main problem at the back, one that NFP would have had as well. [i'm gonna steal one of Webbo here too] People not being happy about changing tactics is also bull, last year eceryone complained that we didn't have a Plan B. - This year we don't even have a plan A. As I answered Webbo, and we quite clearly do have 2 plans, we have played great passing football in a couple of games, not sure the squad is up to it. "The squad we had last year, prior to loans coming, was awful, about the same as this years" - But guess what, The manager last year did something about it, What's Sousa doing and done? When did he get the loans in? We only played good football near the end of the season when Spearing, Vaughan & Waghorn were playing together "I'm not defending Sousa here, just asking that people think things through before postng, what appears at times, to be hysterical knee jerk reactions." - I myself called people's comments after 2 or 3 games knee jerk reactions, Now we are 9 games down the line, rock bottom, conceaded 22 goals, won 1, drew 2, and lost 6, and tbh can't really see where our next win is coming from. I think conceading 22 goals for a start is alarming, and losing 6 out of 9 games is also alarming and more than knee jerk reactions. The goals conceded is very alarming but is a lot is covered by my points about Brown, Morrisson & Hobbs, Vitor & Miguel above And a season includes cup games so 4 wins out of 12
Matt Posted 29 September 2010 Author Posted 29 September 2010 Yeah whatever, I said I wasn't going to begin picking the bones out of your first post but bowed to your request, let's just agree to disagree, read my signature, I have my opinions, you have yours. We're obviously not going to come to an agreement. All that is clear and fact is, we're sinking, and we weren't under Pearson, We should forget about Pearson now agreed, however this team (+ a few loans...But Sousa is allowed to get loan signings in, so no excuse) was fine under Pearson, not under Sousa, and i'd rather play poor (Which I don't think it was that poor under Pearson) and get results than 'pretty' and lose, that's not saying Sousa should get us to play poor and it will guarantee us results because it won't but I don't buy into this 'pretty football' shit when we are doing so shite, if we were scrapping draws ok, might have abit of patience but the amount of goals we are conceding and games we have lost just simply leads to one things
Trav Le Bleu Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 99% of protests of any kind are self indulgent bollox. I definitely won't be taking part. How about in the "Webbo for Mod" protest?
purpleronnie Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 Still waiting. For what?. Do you mean all protests are irrelevant? or just football fan protests? or just english football fan protests?
Webbo Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 How about in the "Webbo for Mod" protest? I think it'd be just you and me with the placards.
Webbo Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 For what?. Do you mean all protests are irrelevant? or just football fan protests? or just english football fan protests? I'll leave it up to you. You found my original comment so laughable I'd of thought you could have given me a dozen examples by now.
hackneyfox Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 I can see from your scattergun rant that you're frustrated and lashing out. Join the club. My post specifically dealt with the current and immediate future. Perhaps you would quote the details of the takeover and the identity of the clubs owners since I have not seen any details. Ian Stringer and the press have been unable to extract much detail. The delay in ratification may be affecting our current financial position and ability to make the signings that Sousa may be demanding. We know who the current owners are. There will be other investors joining, but why would anyone want the names until it has gone through? And you'd like it to be public knowledge how much they are investing a well? What a great idea that would be. This takeover is no different to any other whether it be a telecomms business or a football club. Nobody it told everything until it is all signed, sealed and delivered. You appear to be the one lashing out. I am calmness personified, but then I do know who one of the future investors or directors is.
purpleronnie Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 99% of protests of any kind are self indulgent bollox. I definitely won't be taking part. I'll leave it up to you. You found my original comment so laughable I'd of thought you could have given me a dozen examples by now. civil rights protests? for example The March on Washington pressuring President John F. Kennedy to draw up firm civil rights legislation. Anti-poll tax campaign? 1000's of Union protests worldwide improved working conditions and workers rights. CPE protests in france. Greenpeace protests I remember the US abandoning nuclear testing grounds in Alaska and the grey seal slaughter in the Orkney Islands was halted after Greenpeace campaigning. The first Earth Day led directly to the Clean Air Act in America and the creation of the United States Environmental Protection Agency . And wasn't it Shell who planned to dump oil storage the North Sea, with the full support of the British Government. Greenpeace activists boarded the facility, the publicity led to a consumer boycott and Shell was forced to backtrack. The Brent Spar was dismantled and recycled on land, and the case led to a total ban on the dumping of oilrigs at sea. Others that spring to mind that changed either political sympathy or fundemental change - Gandhi's Salt March, Berlin Wall Protests just 2 months after mass protests in berlin the government yielded. Ukraine's Orange Revolution - huge numbers of demostraters protesting against the Ukrainian presidential election until a revote was called, reversing the results and putting the opposition candidate in. Plus the large number of fan protests against the club/manager directly leading to managers getting sacked. I honestly can believe you think 99% of protests are self indulgent? Its one of the strangest things I've ever read. Pretty sums up the apathetic can't be arsed attitude thesedays though.
Webbo Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 civil rights protests? for example The March on Washington pressuring President John F. Kennedy to draw up firm civil rights legislation. Anti-poll tax campaign? 1000's of Union protests worldwide improved working conditions and workers rights. CPE protests in france. Greenpeace protests I remember the US abandoning nuclear testing grounds in Alaska and the grey seal slaughter in the Orkney Islands was halted after Greenpeace campaigning. The first Earth Day led directly to the Clean Air Act in America and the creation of the United States Environmental Protection Agency . And wasn't it Shell who planned to dump oil storage the North Sea, with the full support of the British Government. Greenpeace activists boarded the facility, the publicity led to a consumer boycott and Shell was forced to backtrack. The Brent Spar was dismantled and recycled on land, and the case led to a total ban on the dumping of oilrigs at sea. Others that spring to mind that changed either political sympathy or fundemental change - Gandhi's Salt March, Berlin Wall Protests just 2 months after mass protests in berlin the government yielded. Ukraine's Orange Revolution - huge numbers of demostraters protesting against the Ukrainian presidential election until a revote was called, reversing the results and putting the opposition candidate in. Plus the large number of fan protests against the club/manager directly leading to managers getting sacked. I honestly can believe you think 99% of protests are self indulgent? Its one of the strangest things I've ever read. Pretty sums up the apathetic can't be arsed attitude thesedays though. Anything this century?
purpleronnie Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 Anything this century? Ahhh we're getting more specific now, keep back tracking.
Webbo Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 Ahhh we're getting more specific now, keep back tracking. if you're going to quote Ghandi and the American Civil rights movement. Even I wasn't born then.
purpleronnie Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 if you're going to quote Ghandi and the American Civil rights movement. Even I wasn't born then. Like I said your now back tracking and by the way I have already posted about protests in this century, read up son.
Webbo Posted 30 September 2010 Posted 30 September 2010 Like I said your now back tracking and by the way I have already posted about protests in this century, read up son. The Iraq war march was a great success.There were a million people walking pass Parliament on the country side alliance march and they couldn't even save fox hunting (and most of them had jobs). But you're right ,Al Qadi will no doubt call off their reign of terror when they see the EDL are marching through Leicester and the rival UAF counter march will lead to an end of racism and peace and harmony throughout the land.
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