Foxblogger Posted 3 January 2011 Posted 3 January 2011 Were still waiting for a goal from a corner. Both goals today were from open play. Any planks who think we scored from corners today need to brush up on their definitions of a 'dead ball' and what constitutes 'open play' Could you provide us with a definition from a reputable organisation? Opta, say? I'd be genuinely interested if there is one.
Haydos Posted 3 January 2011 Posted 3 January 2011 Which is quite correct, you are right. Matt Mills' goal for Reading against us this season, THAT was a goal from a corner, Hernandez' goal for Man U against West Brom, THAT was a goal from a corner Chill the **** out mate. We got a win. With two goals 'from corners'. Try and enjoy it yeah? And if you're going to be a twat, this is a 'goal from a corner'....
Adster Posted 3 January 2011 Posted 3 January 2011 Which is quite correct, you are right. Matt Mills' goal for Reading against us this season, THAT was a goal from a corner, Hernandez' goal for Man U against West Brom, THAT was a goal from a corner For gods sake lighten the fvck up.
Jimothy Posted 3 January 2011 Posted 3 January 2011 Which is quite correct, you are right. Matt Mills' goal for Reading against us this season, THAT was a goal from a corner, Hernandez' goal for Man U against West Brom, THAT was a goal from a corner So a goal from a corner has to be corner taken, first player to touch it scores. What a load of bull. So if next game Gallagher whips a corner in to Morrison at the back post, he nods the ball back into the middle and Vassell turns it in, that's not a goal from a corner? Of course it is.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 3 January 2011 Posted 3 January 2011 Chill the **** out mate. We got a win. With two goals 'from corners'. Try and enjoy it yeah? And if you're going to be a twat, this is a 'goal from a corner'.... Well. I've done that. Was about 10. but still a memorable goal.
Finnegan Posted 3 January 2011 Posted 3 January 2011 Oh put a sock in it, Donut. Of course it was a goal from a set piece. If we win a free kick thirty five yards out, throw everyone forward, pump the ball in and someone pokes in a rebound then it's a goal from a set piece - the free kick created the goal scoring situation. If Stoke win a throw-in, chuck a bunch of big men in the box and mark up the keeper, the ball bounces a few times and someone smacks it in it's still a goal "from a throw-in", a situation arose by a set piece. Both goals today were scored as the direct result of a corner. By literally everyone's definition they were goals... from a corner. Stop being such a terrible WUM.
themotivator Posted 3 January 2011 Posted 3 January 2011 i was there and it certainly not "open play"
Donut Posted 3 January 2011 Posted 3 January 2011 Could you provide us with a definition from a reputable organisation? Opta, say? I'd be genuinely interested if there is one. In response to foxblogger law 13 of the fifa laws of association football covers game restart whereby a corner constitues a 'dead ball' A goal scored from a taken corner kick met by a touch to the net is a goal via a corner. If the ball is subsequently played after it begins a second phase of play, of which this happened both times today (i.e. the defender or keeper cleared the ball after the leicester touch). A corner is a direct free kick. a direct free kick can be scored into the opposing net directly with a single touch, most commonly, a free kick around the box. an indirect free kick must be played into open play before a goal can be scored.....just to draw attention to the phases notion. Likewise, if a player takes a penalty which is saved, but the attacking team score from the rebound, this is not a goal resulting from a dead ball (signalling restart of play). this is a goal from open play (phase 2, open play after the save, both teams can contest possession) Anyway i wont say any more on the subject, im copping a load of stick, all i wanted to do was point out these werent genuine goals from corners. sorry for any offense caused.
Jimothy Posted 3 January 2011 Posted 3 January 2011 In response to foxblogger law 13 of the fifa laws of association football covers game restart whereby a corner constitues a 'dead ball' A goal scored from a taken corner kick met by a touch to the net is a goal via a corner. If the ball is subsequently played after it begins a second phase of play, of which this happened both times today (i.e. the defender or keeper cleared the ball after the leicester touch). Anyway i wont say any more on the subject, im copping a load of stick, all i wanted to do was point out these werent genuine goals from corners. sorry for any offense caused. Hmmmm but if there is one organisation that knows **** all about football, it's FIFA.
The Doctor Posted 3 January 2011 Posted 3 January 2011 Were still waiting for a goal from a corner. Both goals today were from open play. Any planks who think we scored from corners today need to brush up on their definitions of a 'dead ball' and what constitutes 'open play' Dead ball - very fooking uncomfortable open play - the period in a rocky stage of a relationship between the girlfriend dumping you taking time apart to do some soul searching and getting back together with you finishing her soul searching. that sort of thing? Anyway utter bullshit, the goals today were from corners, the ball was swung in, knocked down and poked home. Regardless of what the **** fifa say, that has always been regarded as a goal from a corner and always will be.
Foxblogger Posted 3 January 2011 Posted 3 January 2011 In response to foxblogger law 13 of the fifa laws of association football covers game restart whereby a corner constitues a 'dead ball' A goal scored from a taken corner kick met by a touch to the net is a goal via a corner. If the ball is subsequently played after it begins a second phase of play, of which this happened both times today (i.e. the defender or keeper cleared the ball after the leicester touch). A corner is a direct free kick. a direct free kick can be scored into the opposing net directly with a single touch, most commonly, a free kick around the box. an indirect free kick must be played into open play before a goal can be scored.....just to draw attention to the phases notion. Likewise, if a player takes a penalty which is saved, but the attacking team score from the rebound, this is not a goal resulting from a dead ball (signalling restart of play). this is a goal from open play (phase 2, open play after the save, both teams can contest possession) Anyway i wont say any more on the subject, im copping a load of stick, all i wanted to do was point out these werent genuine goals from corners. sorry for any offense caused. The laws of the game as to when a ball is considered 'dead' is surely not the same as a goal being scored from a set play of any kind. To put it another way, if Leicester had conceded two goals like the ones we scored today would we be sitting here complaining about how we couldn't defend from 'open play'? I hardly think so. To my mind, until the ball is cleared from the penalty area, the defending team cannot be said to have dealt with the danger presented to it from the corner, therefore any goal resulting from the passage of play where the ball remains in the area can, I think, be called a goal resulting from a corner.
Corky Posted 3 January 2011 Posted 3 January 2011 I was there- just shows what a good corner and players attacking the ball can do.
themotivator Posted 3 January 2011 Posted 3 January 2011 ive got to be honest i had a great view and there was nothing impressive about our goals today. ill admit that berner and vassell showed awareness and good reactions, we didnt attack the corners well enough to threaten and got lucky in my opinion. jack hobb's header just before vassell scored was poor quality really considering he was in miles of space. i'm suprised de vries didnt catch it. goals a goal though.
C.J Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 I agree, they wern't from corners. But it was nice to see some good old school 'scrappy' goals!
Matt Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 We will score in the next 4 or 5 games from one, I'm going away so I won't be there thus it will happen. Told ya.
Foxblogger Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 As luck would have it OptaJoe has indirectly put this debate to bed. 4 - Four of Blackpool’s last six league goals have come from corners. Swingers. I've had a look at the match reports on the Blackpool website and here are two of the decriptions of 'goals from corners'. The Bloomfield Road crowd could sense a second goal and it duly arrived on the stroke of half-time; David Vaughan's deep, ins-swinging free-kick was headed back into the six-yard box by Varney and Harewood bundled home his fourth of the season and the Seasiders' second of the game. David Vaughan, captain for the day in the absence of Charlie Adam, played a short corner to Eardley and the Welshman rolled the ball on to his left foot and delivered a wicked near post cross that was flicked on by Ian Evatt, leaving Campbell to pounce and send the away contingent into raptures.
okie fox Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 ive got to be honest i had a great view and there was nothing impressive about our goals today. ill admit that berner and vassell showed awareness and good reactions, we didnt attack the corners well enough to threaten and got lucky in my opinion. jack hobb's header just before vassell scored was poor quality really considering he was in miles of space. i'm suprised de vries didnt catch it. goals a goal though. Morrison's header was low down to the keeper's left so de Vries did well to stop it.
Donut Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 As luck would have it OptaJoe has indirectly put this debate to bed. 4 - Four of Blackpool’s last six league goals have come from corners. Swingers. I've had a look at the match reports on the Blackpool website and here are two of the decriptions of 'goals from corners'. That's fair enough foxblogger, ill hold my hand up for my incorrect interpretation
themotivator Posted 4 January 2011 Posted 4 January 2011 Morrison's header was low down to the keeper's left so de Vries did well to stop it. oops my bad. still after watching the replay. it wasn't the best header. by no means shit, but still right at the keeper.
MikeyT Posted 7 January 2011 Posted 7 January 2011 I think we should now have a thread entitled "I was there the day Leicester City beat Man City in the F.A. Cup". Man city wth an estimated squad of around £393 mil and Leicester's being...ummm....whatever it is?
skyblueinpeace Posted 8 January 2011 Posted 8 January 2011 i know how u all feel haha.. weve only sored 1 header all season!
ozleicester Posted 9 January 2011 Author Posted 9 January 2011 I was... I was THERE!!! We love you Lesta
Donut Posted 9 January 2011 Posted 9 January 2011 You'll see plenty of goals from corners now We look like were gonna score from every one now Sol 'BamBam' Bamba is throwing his head at it!
Footballscoutaustralia Posted 10 February 2011 Posted 10 February 2011 The laws of the game as to when a ball is considered 'dead' is surely not the same as a goal being scored from a set play of any kind. To put it another way, if Leicester had conceded two goals like the ones we scored today would we be sitting here complaining about how we couldn't defend from 'open play'? I hardly think so. To my mind, until the ball is cleared from the penalty area, the defending team cannot be said to have dealt with the danger presented to it from the corner, therefore any goal resulting from the passage of play where the ball remains in the area can, I think, be called a goal resulting from a corner. Even though your definition isnt technically accurate, I personally prefer how you recognize that the danger that a corner kick implies, and how, until it has been dealt with, it remains a passage of play resulting from a corner.A Direct Corner Kick Goal or Olympic Goal is simply when the ball goes in directly from a corner without anyone touching it. It's fairly rare and usually some sort of gross keeper mistake, especially as the player taking the corner is certainly not aiming for a "direct corner goal"
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