Multiculturalism has failed

[Trav Le Bleu]

Zin ... why have you started putting spaces in front of punctuation ?

It 's really offputting !

I would really like it , if at all possible , if you could stop doing it , please .

[Zingari]

Zin ... why have you started putting spaces in front of punctuation ?

It 's really offputting !

I would really like it , if at all possible , if you could stop doing it , please .

Basically, I'm self taught at typing , and whilst I must say that I am a excellent learner , I'm a fookin crap teacher

[Trav Le Bleu]

You shroud tray these voice reconnoitre softwhere that eye use, hits turtley ore sum!

[Zingari]

I certainly will

[l444ry]

If Cameron is so opposed to multiculturalism, then why does he tolerate, no, encourage faith schools? If you want to create true citizens with common values, the first thing you do is educate them all in the same schools, rich and poor, native or immigrant.

Same old Tories. Appealing to the Daily Mail type readers and knuckle draggers in order to deflect from the shambles they are making of governing the country.

[Zingari]

If Cameron is so opposed to multiculturalism, then why does he tolerate, no, encourage faith schools? If you want to create true citizens with common values, the first thing you do is educate them all in the same schools, rich and poor, native or immigrant.

Same old Tories. Appealing to the Daily Mail type readers and knuckle draggers in order to deflect from the shambles they are making of governing the country.

To do this, you would be in favour of forcing all muslims into state schools ?

You may need to think this through a little more

[l444ry]

To do this, you would be in favour of forcing all muslims into state schools ?

You may need to think this through a little more

On the contrary. If children grow up apart, separated from one another by ethnicity and religion, then we really will have problems!!

[cc_star]

To do this, you would be in favour of forcing all muslims into state schools ?

You may need to think this through a little more

So your version of multi-culturalism is effectively apartheid? This is why it has broken in this country... because people have accepted the divide and made zero attempts to bridge it.

People think Cameron was being slightly, or even very racist when he made the speech, but really he was combating a racist situation that exists, and 'the left' seem to accept.

[Webbo]

Depends on who you think has more right to decide where our children are educated, the state or the parents. My vote goes to the parents.

[coale39]

Depends on who you think has more right to decide where our children are educated, the state or the parents. My vote goes to the parents.

Some parents want to keep their child separate though.

[MC Prussian]

More likely some Pole is to be honest

But they're taking your jobs?

[Zingari]

On the contrary. If children grow up apart, separated from one another by ethnicity and religion, then we really will have problems!!

Yes i know this , it's the point that I was making

It's the muslims themselves who choose to segregate their children into muslim schools not British society

How do you intend to achieve this goal of all children being taught at all inclusive schools without draconian laws ?

What you are proposing actually goes much further than what Cameron is suggesting.

[Starkwell]

When I read things like this I always wonder exactly what parts of our culture we have actually lost? What actual things, activities, thoughts, or whatever makes up 'culture', can/do we no longer do or see or feel? And how much of that loss is as a direct result of multiculturalism and not, say, technological advancements or globalisation?

I'm not going to start a list, and naturally technology and the 2nd world war contributed hugely - but globalisation is the essence of multiculturalism, the clue is in the world, global - Britain has sunk into an obsession with Americanisation of media and social life - everything from the obliteration of the highstreet to multiplexes to glamourised crime, combined with a half arsed pandering to forcing ethnic togetherness.

I cringe when i see every single television program containing a mixed ethnicity group of friends - not through a lack of trying but i've never had a black, asian, chinese, ginger, gay and disabled mate all at the same time, and the reason is probably because I've yet to meet a black person who likes the Carpenters and Thomas Hardy.

Half a century of multiculturalism in leicester has seen it decline, it has lost it's identity - not saying that this is because of the behaviour of the asian population but rather that as a new multicultural city the pride of ownership, of permanence and city pride seems to have wilted. I get the feeling that nobody feels it really belongs to them anymore. Before the mass spreading of culture, people were more parochial, walk through the city centre or even a suburb today and people don't even smile at each other, let alone say hello.

Culturalism isn't just about race, it's about lifestyle and habit. There was a leaked report that part of the reason the council were shutting four key museums was that the visitors were predominantly white - bad in itself, but if going to museums isn't part of non-white culture then it is evident that meshing of cultures will always fail, no matter how much the government try to force it.

[Zingari]

I'm certainly adding young Starkwell here to my mental list of posters to look out for

belated welcome to you Starkwell

[l444ry]

Yes i know this , it's the point that I was making

It's the muslims themselves who choose to segregate their children into muslim schools not British society

How do you intend to achieve this goal of all children being taught at all inclusive schools without draconian laws ?

What you are proposing actually goes much further than what Cameron is suggesting.

Agree. That's why I was attempting to point out that Cameron is playing the populist card on one hand while actively supporting faith schools on the other.

[Zingari]

Agree. That's why I was attempting to point out that Cameron is playing the populist card on one hand while actively supporting faith schools on the other.

i sort of see your point , but either way he, ( and any other politician ) seems to be in a catch 22 situation on this one

On the one hand trying to encourage tolerance of all faiths and giving parental choice in education seems to be the right thing to do , but on the other, we all know this is where the seeds of segregation are sown .

how does he (or anyone else) square the circle here ?

[dave the caveman]

if going to museums isn't part of non-white culture then it is evident that meshing of cultures will always fail, no matter how much the government try to force it.

That's a very narrow example to use when coming to such a definite conclusion. You could equally go down to Abbey park on any given weekend, observe different races playing sport together and announce that the meshing of cultures has been a complete success and always will be.

Lack of pride in the city is a fair point, but for me local or national pride is a bit of a backward concept and doesn't usually manifest itself in anything positive. Observe the types of people who usually promote patriotism on a national level.

I would also suggest that this Leics-topia you speak of probably wasn't quite as romantic in reality as it is in your memory.

[Zingari]

That's a very narrow example to use when coming to such a definite conclusion. You could equally go down to Abbey park on any given weekend, observe different races playing sport together and announce that the meshing of cultures has been a complete success and always will be.

Lack of pride in the city is a fair point, but for me local or national pride is a bit of a backward concept and doesn't usually manifest itself in anything positive. Observe the types of people who usually promote patriotism on a national level.

I would also suggest that this Leics-topia you speak of probably wasn't quite as romantic in reality as it is in your memory.

Maybe the example he used is narrow one , but so was the mirror article that somehow concluded that "Leicester was flying in the face of Cameron's assertion "

Maybe local and national pride are backward concepts , but why are they then promoting Leicester ( and the rest of the uk )as having pride in it's multi cultural status ?

Maybe the Leics-topia wasn't so great , but maybe the vision of multi -culturalopia is not as rosy and romantic as the mass media have been portraying , or many have been promoting it to be either

it's all mostly just personal opinions really , but some opinions are pushed by the globalist media more than others