cc_star Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Dunno what Babylon is on about (again) above - Weale provided some heroics yet again today accordng to everything I've heard. and bringing Yak up in a thread about defence when there's 17 Yakubu threads for a Mod to merge on the front page is a bit odd (FYI - It's Yak's lack of effort over the past 6-7 games that people have complained about, not that he's a no hoper in the 18yrd box) Back on topic: Sven's defensive coaching ability is a fooking embarrassment, an absolute embarrassment It's not like he hasn't paid attention to the defence either signing 402 defenders in the course of half a season. Getting in the playoffs was always a big ask, but we could have easily done it if Sven could have turned some of his massive 9 defeats into draws, along with today's gutting draw into a win. A new coach, of the defensive variety should be the number 1 summer priority because no one on the payroll obviously have what it takes! Unless someone with a clue joins us, we'll be destined to lose almost as many as we win forever more Today feels like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory (yet again) the only positive is every team seems to be playing like they don't want 6th, meaning the hope & agony goes on for one more week at least Bruma has been a disaster, and it seems to be common knowledge that he HAS to play, if that is the case its a nightmare for us, especially the way Vitor has been treated, but Sven knows best
iBleedLeicesterColours Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 next season's defence for me: Naughton-Bamba-Tunchev-Cunningham Tunchev's best days are long gone. Surely cant come back the same player after so many ops.
iBleedLeicesterColours Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 One of the Caldwell brothers ? Experienced.. Or the extreme, David Weir
blue army 1988 Posted 2 April 2011 Author Posted 2 April 2011 next season's defence for me: Naughton-Bamba-Tunchev-Cunningham Would still prefair an older head
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Dunno what Babylon is on about (again) above - Weale provided some heroics yet again today accordng to everything I've heard. and bringing Yak up in a thread about defence when there's 17 Yakubu threads for a Mod to merge on the front page is a bit odd (FYI - It's Yak's lack of effort over the past 6-7 games that people have complained about, not that he's a no hoper in the 18yrd box) Back on topic: Sven's defensive coaching ability is a fooking embarrassment, an absolute embarrassment It's not like he hasn't paid attention to the defence either signing 402 defenders in the course of half a season. Getting in the playoffs was always a big ask, but we could have easily done it if Sven could have turned some of his massive 9 defeats into draws, along with today's gutting draw into a win. A new coach, of the defensive variety should be the number 1 summer priority because no one on the payroll obviously have what it takes! Unless someone with a clue joins us, we'll be destined to lose almost as many as we win forever more Today feels like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory (yet again) the only positive is every team seems to be playing like they don't want 6th, meaning the hope & agony goes on for one more week at least Bruma has been a disaster, and it seems to be common knowledge that he HAS to play, if that is the case its a nightmare for us, especially the way Vitor has been treated, but Sven knows best Agree with all of this. The thing that gets me is that he gets rid of Hobbs and Morrison, yet they are clearly no worse than Bruma. He is rubbish, but Sven wil lalways play him regardless. When the tought gets going and the pressure is on, Sven is no good at all. I keep saying it, I wont be bothered if he goes in the summer, not saying he should, but I wouldnt be upset if he did. He is useless tactically and loves to sign players for the sake of it, who then HAVE to play. The defence was poor before he came, but it has got worse. We cant defend set pieces. We arent physically strong enough. We have no leader at the back. And the player selections are bizarre and needlessly changed. Weale is a good keeper, not outstanding, but adequate enough for this league. He was part of the side that let in 45 goals last season, not look at how many we have let in. Its embarrassing really. He wont be here next season though, Sven will be after another keeper for no reason at all, someone like Ricardo or Kirkland, another shit keeper. PVA isnt good enough. Peopel say Berner is past it, but I'd rather have a past it Berner than PVA. I'd rather have Morrison or Hobbs next to Bamba than Bruma/Mee/etc, yet he got rid of them. Think he has this big reputation as a manager yet, in recent years what has he done?! Conman.
Edmund Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Agree with all of this. The thing that gets me is that he gets rid of Hobbs and Morrison, yet they are clearly no worse than Bruma. He is rubbish, but Sven wil lalways play him regardless. When the tought gets going and the pressure is on, Sven is no good at all. I keep saying it, I wont be bothered if he goes in the summer, not saying he should, but I wouldnt be upset if he did. He is useless tactically and loves to sign players for the sake of it, who then HAVE to play. The defence was poor before he came, but it has got worse. We cant defend set pieces. We arent physically strong enough. We have no leader at the back. And the player selections are bizarre and needlessly changed. Weale is a good keeper, not outstanding, but adequate enough for this league. He was part of the side that let in 45 goals last season, not look at how many we have let in. Its embarrassing really. He wont be here next season though, Sven will be after another keeper for no reason at all, someone like Ricardo or Kirkland, another shit keeper. PVA isnt good enough. Peopel say Berner is past it, but I'd rather have a past it Berner than PVA. I'd rather have Morrison or Hobbs next to Bamba than Bruma/Mee/etc, yet he got rid of them. Think he has this big reputation as a manager yet, in recent years what has he done?! Conman. Different players suit different tactics. If you want pretty football, Hobbs and Morrison aren't in that vein. How can you even suggest the defence has got worst since Sven came in? Where were you when Portsmouth made our defence look like a pub side?
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Different players suit different tactics. If you want pretty football, Hobbs and Morrison aren't in that vein. How can you even suggest the defence has got worst since Sven came in? Where were you when Portsmouth made our defence look like a pub side? In the majority of cases, pretty football doesnt get you out of this league. You need to be organised, and in the league its better to be hard to beat and let few in than have a great attack and shite defence. Like we had last season. The defence hasnt got any better since Sven came in. Due to him tinkering with it, changing players and making some poor signings. We havent kept a clean sheet at home since Forest in November, that stat says it all really.
blue army 1988 Posted 2 April 2011 Author Posted 2 April 2011 Paul Robinson has just been said on another thread and I think he would do an excellent job down here
Kitchandro Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 next season's defence for me: Naughton-Bamba-Tunchev-Cunningham I really don't see what people saw in Cunningham defensively. He was only good at going forward. Tunchev will never be the same again
Babylon Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Dunno what Babylon is on about (again) above - Weale provided some heroics yet again today accordng to everything I've heard. and bringing Yak up in a thread about defence when there's 17 Yakubu threads for a Mod to merge on the front page is a bit odd (FYI - It's Yak's lack of effort over the past 6-7 games that people have complained about, not that he's a no hoper in the 18yrd box) Idiot doesn't understand, what a shocker.
Kitchandro Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Idiot doesn't understand, what a shocker. Another tolerant and mature post from Mr Moderator To answer your point, Ricardo was blamed when he conceded goals because he was at fault for them. Not every one, but a couple, and got away with some other shockers. I am yet to see any evidence that Weale was to blame for any goal today. But yeh, lets just slate Weale because you feel sorry for Ricardo. That makes sense. And btw, you keep pushing the same sarcastic point on every thread. Wasn't it you who told me I post the same point too many times?
cc_star Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Idiot doesn't understand, what a shocker. Wanna get personal mr mod? I love the fact your quick to throw an insult, but don't say anything about the content Seriously you must be a traffic warden or some other sort of **** away from this site
cc_star Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Have I said the defence is good? It's aimed at the people who blamed EVERY goal on Ricardo. Nobody blamed every goal on Ricardo, not many people even blamed any goals on Ricardo apart from maybe one can't remember who it was against but it went through his hands, most people think he's just unsteady (at best) and the results since Ricardo's come into the side along with Bruma (displacing the excellent Mee & the damn good Vitor) speak for themselves but as usual, idiot is idiot - exaggerating something that doesn't exist to make his point
leicester4life Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Agree with all of this. tl;dr Think he has this big reputation as a manager yet, in recent years what has he done?! Conman. Wouldn't say Bruma was rubbish, more pace and ability with a football rather than hoofers Hobbs or Morrison. Genious plan, who would you suggest as a replacement? Dowie? Maybe you missed the first 9 games of the season? Weale was never that good, only reason we only conceded 45 was because 11 men were focused on defending.
Kitchandro Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Wouldn't say Bruma was rubbish, more pace and ability with a football rather than hoofers Hobbs or Morrison. Genious plan, who would you suggest as a replacement? Dowie? Maybe you missed the first 9 games of the season? Weale was never that good, only reason we only conceded 45 was because 11 men were focused on defending. Where has this ridiculous idea come about that we parked the bus every game? We were good defensively, we were not negative. We were a better team last season than we are now, there is no denying that.
leicester4life Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 I suppose we need to bring back Fryatt and start Oakley as a right winger week in week out then.
Guest bennytwohats Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Where has this ridiculous idea come about that we parked the bus every game? We were good defensively, we were not negative. We were a better team last season than we are now, there is no denying that. More consistent and solid maybe - i don't think we came anywhere close to the level of performance we have reached at times this season. Our problem has been patchy form and inconsistency - pretty much the mark of a thrown together team like we are. I reckon we'll settle down with a pre-season and a bit more stability for next season. Let's not forget either (before someone makes the point), we were playing pretty much the same players as last season at the start of this season and we all know how that went. With Pearson i'm sure it would have been different, but rightly or wrongly he has gone and we need to look forward, and we have every reason to do that optimistically imo.
Kitchandro Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 I suppose we need to bring back Fryatt and start Oakley as a right winger week in week out then. Yeh well done, make a silly sarcastic comment that no one would agree with to cover up your first silly comment.
Kitchandro Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 More consistent and solid maybe - i don't think we came anywhere close to the level of performance we have reached at times this season. Our problem has been patchy form and inconsistency - pretty much the mark of a thrown together team like we are. I reckon we'll settle down with a pre-season and a bit more stability for next season. Let's not forget either (before someone makes the point), we were playing pretty much the same players as last season at the start of this season and we all know how that went. With Pearson i'm sure it would have been different, but rightly or wrongly he has gone and we need to look forward, and we have every reason to do that optimistically imo. Yes, better. It's no good being breathtaking every few games but not good enough in the rest. The league table and points tally don't lie. The early season form was down to the terribly inept Sousa, not the players. We saw the majority of them were good enough last season, they don't just become rubbish overnight. Anyway, I'm not saying Sven hasn't improved us from the Sousa team because he has, but he's still got a lot to do to make us into a promotion side.
Guest bennytwohats Posted 2 April 2011 Posted 2 April 2011 Yes, better. It's no good being breathtaking every few games but not good enough in the rest. The league table and points tally don't lie. The early season form was down to the terribly inept Sousa, not the players. We saw the majority of them were good enough last season, they don't just become rubbish overnight. Anyway, I'm not saying Sven hasn't improved us from the Sousa team because he has, but he's still got a lot to do to make us into a promotion side. The manager puts the team out but he doesn't take sole responsibility - that's stupid. How can you say the bad form was wholly down to Sousa but that the good form last season wasn't wholly down to Pearson - neither are right, you're being terribly selective. Anyway, you're flogging a dead horse by arguing that we had a better season last year - everyone can see that. My point is that we were never going to acheive the consistency this season given the start we had and the position Sven took over from, the point is that when we do acheive it under him i'm confident that it will be with a much higher level of performance than we had last season - i think our better performances serve as a taster of what is to come - we've seen what we're capable of, next step is to do that every week. Hopefully with a whole summer to prepare next season will be alot better(more consistent). We'll have to wait and see i guess, but i think criticising Sven at this point is pretty unfair tbh.
leicester4life Posted 3 April 2011 Posted 3 April 2011 Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. Weale Morrison Hobbs Brown BernerOakley King Wellens DyerFryatt / Waghorn Howard Ricardo Naughton Bamba Bruma / Mee / Vitor PVAAbeWellens KingVassell . . . . . . . . . . . . GallagherYakubu I know which of those two lineups is the more adventurous.
topharry123 Posted 3 April 2011 Posted 3 April 2011 I have to admit that I may be one of the minority, but i'm not convinced on Bamba. I think he won a lot of fans over on his debut and since then however he plays people always seem to think he's good, or just had a bad game. I honestly think we need an overhaul in defence in the summer. Keep Naughton, apart from that replace the other three. Personally, I liked Jack Hobbs and would like to see him given a run in the team with someone a little more experienced to partner him. He showed what a player he was last year, but didn't get as much of a chance to this time around. I honestly thought last season that we "could" have an england captain in the making, and players do not get bad overnight. I haven't seen as much of Leicester as i'd like to recently, but i really does seem like we have the quality going forwards, but if we do not make the play offs which is looking more and more realistic every game, our defense will be to blame.
Kitchandro Posted 3 April 2011 Posted 3 April 2011 Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. Weale Morrison Hobbs Brown BernerOakley King Wellens DyerFryatt / Waghorn Howard Ricardo Naughton Bamba Bruma / Mee / Vitor PVAAbeWellens KingVassell . . . . . . . . . . . . GallagherYakubu I know which of those two lineups is the more adventurous. I want a team put out to win games, not be adventurous. We scored 3 today and conceded 3. We got just 1 point because we couldn't defend properly. Your argument is silly.
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