AoWW Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 Pity English isn't taught properly in schools these days. The misplaced apostrophe gets me too. The reductive apostrophe...It's... or Mike's... are to abbreviate It is... or, Mike is... Derby's shit... and replaces the missing letter in the reductive word, in this case 'i' If something belongs to someone or is part of something it becomes Its' face... Mikes' house... the engines' power... this is the POSSESSIVE apostrophe. Derbys' shit, would be shit belonging to Derby... i.e Robbie Savage Got to dispute your examples of POSSESSIVE apostrophes. Its face (doesn't need an apostrophe as 'It' is a possessive pronoun - the only time it's should have an apostrophe is when it's a contraction of 'it is'. Other possessive pronouns that do not need an apostrophe to show possession are: theirs, ours, yours, his, hers, etc.)... Mike's house (unless, in your example, you were referring to a house that happened to belong to many Mikes!!), etc Oh and it would be Derby's shit (if referring to Savage, as you're talking about just the one 'Derby''). Perhaps you were off school that day?!! Happy to expand on this further if anyone's interested!!!
Parafox Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 Mike's house (unless, in your example, you were referring to a house that happened to belong to many Mikes!!), etc Oh and it would be Derby's shit (if referring to Savage, as you're talking about just the one 'Derby)'. Perhaps you were off school that day?!! Happy to expand on this further if anyone's interested!!! Gosh... I must've made a right t*t of myself in trying to be clever, I take your point, in the examples I used I got pretty mixed up. I knew what i was trying to say but used bad examples of what i meant. Thanks for correcting me so pleasantly... felt like a small wagging of a finger whereas someone else might've hurled abuse... But I thought that "Derbys' shit" would be correct in that it's shit belonging to Derby, therefore a possessive apostrophe. Thought the Savage quip was quite good though.
StanSP Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 So was I correct with Wellens's Goals? If there's an 's' on the end, you don't need the extra s after the apostrophe
AoWW Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 Gosh... I must've made a right t*t of myself in trying to be clever, I take your point, in the examples I used I got pretty mixed up. I knew what i was trying to say but used bad examples of what i meant. Thanks for correcting me so pleasantly... felt like a small wagging of a finger whereas someone else might've hurled abuse... But I thought that "Derbys' shit" would be correct in that it's shit belonging to Derby, therefore a possessive apostrophe. Thought the Savage quip was quite good though That's ok, I'll save the hurling abuse for when you miss a full stop at the end of a sentence. Derby's shit is referring to shit that belongs to JUST THE ONE Derby. Derbys' shit makes it look like it's shit belonging to MORE THAN ONE Derby, which I'm sure isn't how you intended it. Derby's shit could also mean Derby is shit.
Parafox Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 That's ok, I'll save the hurling abuse for when you miss a full stop at the end of a sentence. Derby's shit is referring to shit that belongs to JUST THE ONE Derby. Derbys' shit makes it look like it's shit belonging to MORE THAN ONE Derby, which I'm sure isn't how you intended it. Derby's shit could also mean Derby is shit. What missing full stop??? Thanks, I liked to think I used the apostrophe appropriately, now I'm all f**cked up... So how does it work with your username? Are you anotherofwalshie'swomen.. anotherofwalshies'women or anotherofwalshieseswomen
Houdini Logic Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 Can someone explain to me why 90% of people on here seem to write 'she could of', 'he should of', 'I would of', etc. in their posts? If it's to shorten things if you their post because they are posting off from a phone or something , or for a similar reason that may warrant abbreviation, then why would they not use 'should've', 'could've' , etc.?
Fosse Boy Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 And it's Lineker, not Linekar. THANK YOU! Unreal how any Leicester fan can get it wrong.
Salieri Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 Loose instead of lose is still irks me the most. <_<
davieG Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 If there's an 's' on the end, you don't need the extra s after the apostrophe If you do that it will look like the volley was belonging to lots of people called Wellen
Leicester Lass Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 I could of sworn there's been a million threads about this before.
StanSP Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 If you do that it will look like the volley was belonging to lots of people called Wellen Nah it would look like Wellens'.
davieG Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 Nah it would look like Wellens'. Exactly and that could be interpreted as I've explained and as per AoWW's explanation of something belonging to lots of someone or something.
Rodders Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 If there's an 's' on the end, you don't need the extra s after the apostrophe Kind of right. And always right for plurals. However... Chris's [KRISIZ] dog The bus's [bUSIZ] wheels The business's [bIZNUSIZ] profit The octopus's [OCTOPUSIZ] tentacle For me, if you pronounce the possessive bit as an extra syllable, it needs an s after the apostrophe. So for the pass by Wellens, it is [WELLENS] pass (=Wellens' pass), or [WELLENSIZ] pass (=Wellens's pass) ? The second one sounds a little awkward, so I'd be more tempted by the first. It's an interesting one. Which gets me thinking about the plural of Wellens. Paul Gallagher's family would be the Gallaghers. Richie Wellens family though? The Wellenses - doesn't sound quite right!
AoWW Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 Kind of right. And always right for plurals. However... Chris's [KRISIZ] dog The bus's [bUSIZ] wheels The business's [bIZNUSIZ] profit The octopus's [OCTOPUSIZ] tentacle For me, if you pronounce the possessive bit as an extra syllable, it needs an s after the apostrophe. So for the pass by Wellens, it is [WELLENS] pass (=Wellens' pass), or [WELLENSIZ] pass (=Wellens's pass) ? The second one sounds a little awkward, so I'd be more tempted by the first. It's an interesting one. I was about to embark on trying to explain all this. I'm so glad you beat me to it.
StanSP Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 Cheers Rodders. I just checked a few sites off Google and it appears that both are/can be correct; it just depends on the comfortability of the pronunciation. We're both right, DavieG
davieG Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 Cheers Rodders. I just checked a few sites off Google and it appears that both are/can be correct; it just depends on the comfortability of the pronunciation. We're both right, DavieG Well I thought about it for quite a while before posting it as Wellens's volley as I didn't want get detention in the Mod's room from AoWW Is it the Mod's room or Mods' room as there is more than one Mod?
danny. Posted 11 April 2011 Author Posted 11 April 2011 Well I thought about it for quite a while before posting it as Wellens's volley as I didn't want get detention in the Mod's room from AoWW Is it the Mod's room or Mods' room as there is more than one Mod? Mods', innit
AoWW Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 Well I thought about it for quite a while before posting it as Wellens's volley as I didn't want get detention in the Mod's room from AoWW Is it the Mod's room or Mods' room as there is more than one Mod? I think you'll find it's AoWW's Room.
BoneDog Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 Thanks to Haydos and Parafox for the replies. I understand now. Although tomorrow is a new day and I might have forgotten by then!
Houdini Logic Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 I think you'll find it's AoWW's Room. How come Walshy becomes Walshies anyway? Loophole or what?
AoWW Posted 11 April 2011 Posted 11 April 2011 How come Walshy becomes Walshies anyway? Loophole or what? Nah, it was a windup.
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