Religion, do you believe?

[AdamN]

That's how I started, but I defeated the spikes so obviously never looked back and gave thanks to the Big Man!

God obviously has his favourites. Bastard!

[smallpauldj]

If you believe in god or whatever explain how its a test that in 2 billion years the milky way is going to crash into another galaxy which if that don't kill us all our sun will die in 5 billion. And let's just say we have the know how to get to other planets then, in the centre of every galaxy are black holes which are swallowing everything even matter which will leave nothing of the universe eventually. There is your god theory down the pan. Wow I've learnt so much off the discovery channel

[MikeyT]

If you believe in god or whatever explain how its a test that in 2 billion years the milky way is going to crash into another galaxy which if that don't kill us all our sun will die in 5 billion. And let's just say we have the know how to get to other planets then, in the centre of every galaxy are black holes which are swallowing everything even matter which will leave nothing of the universe eventually. There is your god theory down the pan. Wow I've learnt so much off the discovery channel

But that nothing is still something though.

[Houdini Logic]

As evolution/Darwinism always comes up in these threads I'll chuck a bit into the mix.

In the article 'Toward a New Science of Life,' EIR journalist Jonathan Tennenbaum makes the following the statement concerning Darwinism:

"Now, it is easy to show that Darwinism, one of the pillars of modern biology, is nothing but a kind of cult, a cult religion. I am not exaggerating. It has no scientific validity whatsoever. Darwin's so-called theory of evolution is based on absurdly irrational propositions, which did not come from scientific observations, but were artificially introduced from the outside, for political-ideological reasons.*

If you find this hard to believe, just have a close look at Charles Darwin's classic work, first published in 1859, usually known as Origin of the Species. Actually, the full title is more ominous: 'Origin of the Species by Means of Natural Selection or the Preservation of the Favored Races'. As Darwin himself states very clearly, the essential idea for this theory came from Thomas Malthus."

If anyone wants to read more of this hot potato, here is the full article :

EIR Tennenbaum - Toward a True Science of Life

*The following quote is from another article reagarding the Tennenbaum piece that I find interesting : "Given Darwinism's roots in occult Freemasonry and its expedient promotion of an emergent species of supermen (i.e., the elite), this is a fairly accurate assessment. Charles Darwin acted as the elite's apostle, preaching the new secular gospel of evolution. Darwinism could be considered a Freemasonic project, the culmination of a publicity campaign conducted by the Lodge."

Not quite sure what your point is here? Darwin even said at the time there was 'no hard science' behind his theory - it is the many scientists in the following years that have proved him to be correct.

[Parafox]

]The following quote is from another article reagarding the Tennenbaum piece that I find interesting :

I Can't believe I'm trolling my own thread... But weren't they the scissors used by Dr Huffuuhrr in The Man With Two Brains" ??

[BoneDog]

Not quite sure what your point is here? Darwin even said at the time there was 'no hard science' behind his theory - it is the many scientists in the following years that have proved him to be correct.

I don't think I really had a point apart from throwing in a little anti-Darwinist reading!

I didn't know that Darwin had ever been proved to be correct. There are still many scientists of different fields who say that, "the more we discover, the more everything points to an intelligent designer". I wouldn't necessarily dispute that evolution could be one of the factors in the shaping of our world, but it's the origins of it all that I am most concerned with, and not what has happened since the big bang or whatever it was. And from what I know I always thought that Darwinism pointed to the fact that everything must have come from some inanimate object

On a side note, there is also alot of archeaology being 'covered up' or hidden because it is starting to prove that alot of what we learn from our textbooks about our origins and history is wrong. I'll try and find some links to what I'm talking about (just incase anyone is interested!).

I Can't believe I'm trolling my own thread... But weren't they the scissors used by Dr Huffuuhrr in The Man With Two Brains" ??

HA I think they were! I linked the name to some comedy I'd seen but couldn't think what it was.

[lavrentis]

Richard Dawkins

[Trav Le Bleu]

I'm going to put the bible in footballing terms so it's easy to understand. Just imagine this a football season and God is the manager.

August - FC Bible are formed, along with the universe and everything in general. Pre-season goes well; there is a division of the water and the land, creatures of the sea and air come forth and land animals follow. God makes Adam his captain and all goes well until the first game of the season against Serpent Rovers when Eve scores an own goal. It's going to be a long hard season!

Sept - Following a tricky start, September proves to be a very wet month and god names Noah as his new captain. FC Bible sweep away all before them and storm into a commanding position, until new signing, Nimrod, causes much confusion in the ranks and disharmony in the dressing room. As a result, much of the team put in transfer requests and what was looking like a good team is scattered to the four corners.

Oct - Now sitting mid-table, and with the lose of many players, God appoints Abram captain (though for some reason it's spelt Abraham on his shirt.) Initially there is still some unrest as vice-captain Lot shows himself up and the defence are rooted to the spot as they lose to Sodom Rangers. Abraham has to make the diffcult decision whether or not to sacrifice his son's place in the team, but it turns out to be unnecessary and he goes on to play a major role for the club. A move to a new stadium sparks a revival of fortunes and God promises that Abraham will be blessed and there is a short unbeaten run until the end of the month.

Nov - A big rift between new captain Isaac and vice captain Ishmael sees the later leaving to form his own team, FC Arab. Jacob has problems fielding the right number of players as he plays 12, only to lose Joseph following dissent from the other players. Joseph throws his multi-coloured armband on the floor in disgust and leaves to play for Pharoah Argyle. This is the start of hard times again for FC Bible.

Dec - With FC Bible languishing near the bottom of the table and Pharoah Argyle storming the league, the Egyptian masters come unstuck as they are plagued by problems, losing ten on the trot. The inspired decision to make Moses captain reaps rewards and God promises his team will be playing silky football flowing like milk and honey. However, due to much complaining FC Bible have a period in the wilderness and stumble to yet another halt.

Jan - The new year brings fresh hope with David leading the team to a giant-killing act in the cup, knocking out Philistine United. Expectations are raised especially with the emergence of Solomon in the team, who proves to be wise head in defence, until revelations in the media about David's private life once again undo all the good work that has gone before and the team splits in two, with Samaria Town going their own way.

Feb - Much unrest in the team with a host of different captains means that FC Bible plods through Feb with nothing much to report until a devastating home loss to Babylon Wanderers seems to end FC Bible's meagre hopes of winning the title. Even so, God remains optomistic and the international break gives God a chance to look through the reserves and make necessary change.

March - In an unprecedented move God makes his son captain and many supporters are bouyed by this, except for Herod, who is quite upset and can be heard chanting "Satan! Satan!" from the stands. However, young Jesus proves himself more than capable and Herod is rapidly silenced. Things are so much on the up that where the stadium hospitality previously only served water, they now serve wine. Jesus leads FC Bible to score points against the Pharisees Academicals and the Sadducee Rovers and FC Bible surge up the table to become real contenders.

April - In a tragic miscalculation against Pilate Romana in the cup, Jesus fields 12 men, but this is rectified when Judas is sent off for diving. It seems all is lost as Jesus is taken off with some nasty injuries that threaten to be career threatening. The cup is lost, but there's still everything to play for in the league and with Peter and Paul in scintilating form in midfield, FC Bible march on towards the title. "I'm doing this for my captain," says Paul and God says that he is confident that Jesus will play an important roll before the end of the season.

May - Astonishingly, Jesus returns to the field for the final match at the Armageddon Bowl. A win over the Satan Forest (sic) will clinch the title. Some horsemen trample the pitch before hand and various beasts are put on display, leaving the supporters wondering what it all means, before the game kicks off. It turns out to be a very one-sided affair, with the Devils never in the match. Jesus lifts the trophy and God is very pleased and announces a new dawn of exceptional football.

Hope this helps.

[Steven]

Hope this helps.

Er not really if I am being honest.

[zubi]

wow that was ever so blasphemous

[The Doctor]

This shits all over the regular llama song.

[bigjohn]

So jesus turned some water into wine? I turned a weeks wages into cider,beat that jesus !