Hobbs to hand in transfer request

[Guest Col city fan]

So you would support a city player who moves on to another club, but won't support your own Team Manager?

Come man, Sven got us closer to the play offs than we could have ever hoped to imagine. Remember at the turn of the year, 7 wins and 1 draw? I know it seems a long time ago and we've since hit bad form, but I bet Sven wasn't useless then was he

Sven got us closer to the play offs than we could have ever hoped to imagine

This really is utter pants... Sven had tons of games to turn things round, some money with which to do it and the nucleus of a squad that had very nearly made the play-off final only a season before.

In addition, he was asked to do it in a division of very very average teams with relatively few points between top 6 and bottom 3

Lots of teams have maintained the 'winning runs' and made the play-offs when new managers have come in at some point after the season has started. Dowie, for example, with Palace.... Reading only this season

Pants

[zubi]

Sven got us closer to the play offs than we could have ever hoped to imagine

This really is utter pants... Sven had tons of games to turn things round, some money with which to do it and the nucleus of a squad that had very nearly made the play-off final only a season before.

In addition, he was asked to do it in a division of very very average teams with relatively few points between top 6 and bottom 3

Lots of teams have maintained the 'winning runs' and made the play-offs when new managers have come in at some point after the season has started. Dowie, for example, with Palace.... Reading only this season

Pants

We were bottom of the table with that same squad under Sousa

[Corky]

Sorry JT but are you attending the same matches as me? Mee has been better but let's remember is was awful in his first few matches and if it was someone else they would have been dropped but I'd rather our own talent, Sven say's he wants Hobbs to go and get experience yet brings in Mee, Hobbs hasn't been given a fair chance cos he hasn't played in his right position. Typical Leicester fans, minute a player is out the door you bum the one coming in. Same happened with Fryatt who again wasn't given the chance under Sven. I'd rather Fryatt over Yak. I'd even prefer Stevie H on some days. Vitor has been the only good defender for me and yet scores2and gets dropped. Sven doesn't seem to care about who got us where last year and I think it's a shame we have forgotten what this lad has done for us.

Mee was awful in his first match, yet since then has turned in consistent performances at both CB and LB (remember when Hobbs played at right-back? Oh dear). Hobbs played a fair number of games under Sven and didn't look the presence he was before. What was Sven to do? Keep Hobbs' fans happy and continue to play him or look for an improvement?

The reason we "bummed" the new player, namely Yakubu, was that early on he showed class that Fryatt didn't have, the way he bullied defenders, scared them. That hasn't continued to any great level but at the start you could see why the fans preferred Yakubu to Fryatt.

You must remember that when Sven came in those players who did so well last season were a mess, losing games and leaking goals. We still are conceding far too many but Hobbs, Morrison, Berner- would they have done a huge deal better?

[Bettsj2]

Mee was awful in his first match, yet since then has turned in consistent performances at both CB and LB (remember when Hobbs played at right-back? Oh dear). Hobbs played a fair number of games under Sven and didn't look the presence he was before. What was Sven to do? Keep Hobbs' fans happy and continue to play him or look for an improvement?

The reason we "bummed" the new player, namely Yakubu, was that early on he showed class that Fryatt didn't have, the way he bullied defenders, scared them. That hasn't continued to any great level but at the start you could see why the fans preferred Yakubu to Fryatt.

You must remember that when Sven came in those players who did so well last season were a mess, losing games and leaking goals. We still are conceding far too many but Hobbs, Morrison, Berner- would they have done a huge deal better?

Fryatt had the hump long before Sven arrived. He didn't want to play for us the second Sousa favoured DJ over him.

[Brown Fox]

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Brilliant post foxes fan123! I can safely say as I am very close to one of Hobbs' best mates - although I've never met him my friend would know everything and Hobbs HAS NOT handed in a transfer request.

I agree regarding midfield, I think we loose the ball too easily. I said in a post ealier we need a Scott Parker type player. I don't think Sven actually rates any of the Pearson players - yeah King, Gally and Wellens have signed but what's a piece of paper? Contracts mean nothing nowdays. I feel Sven will support and priase his own players that he has deals on and will use any chance to drop or knock the confidence of our play off's squad. Last year, no money! This year I dread to think how much the Thai's have spent and look whose above us.....hull! Maybe Pearson didn't play beautiful football but I want to watch the lads who want to play for us and not here for the money. Maybe we should be praising the lad for what he's done and not slagging him off. DavieG- you don't win Player of the year for being OK!

Sven's done it to most of the lads we loved last year. Waggy, price tag has drogged through being a bench warmer when I'd rather watch him than Yak run around. IF Hobbs goes then good luck to him and let's wait for him to come out and say why he wants to leave if he does instead of starting rumours and running the risk of causing a stir for no reason!

Money has blinded some of you, true fans can see what is in front of them. A toy for the Thai's! Let's hope Sven does cut it. I didn't rate him before and now I'm still not over joyed by the Sven circus. I would rather a tracky manager on NP or Powelly than someone here for the money. I love my club and my boys adore their weekends at the football so I do hope we have something to look forward too next season. I think we've missed Brown more than we'd like to say.

I can totally understand where you're coming from but I have to disagree on a few points. The people who have come 'for the money' haven't really come for the money because they'd earn the same on the bench at their respective club. Though I understand what you mean because some players won't put their bodies on the line and have the same passion etc. but look at Ben Mee and Naughton. They've tried they're hardest and have been totally committed to the club.

The only real money you could say was spent on a player that you don't feel connected to is the Yak but he's scored 9 goals which is more than any striker at the club. But I also want to be entertained when I watch us play, as well. When you have success you can say it's fine not playing beautiful football but think of some of our games last year. Derby home and away, Sheff Wed away, Doncaster at home. They were terrible, terrible matches of football and there was nothing worse than watching us in those games.

I know Waghorn might display the passion you'd love to see but is he seriously better than Yak? Waghorn has had lots of chances this season and when he's come on he seems to do all the hard work yet mess up the final product as seen with QPR away, Preston home. Obviously we feel more connected to Waghorn because he displays passion and because of last season but in the end I want us to succeed. I don't want to see us playing players because of their popularity, I'd rather see them play on ability. If that means not being able to relate to them as much then so be it, but I guarantee that the more success we have the more we will relate to the new players that we will inevitably get this summer. Obviously at the moment we are a team of individual talent but next season I am sure we will have a 'team' that works for each other as well as having that ability.

I really don't see the appeal of a tracky manager though? Just because they'll shout their heads off and show their emotions more how does that make any difference to the team you support? I couldn't care less what the manager is wearing because I'd rather see us succeed. We haven't done it this season but we have a massive chance next season, and I'd rather have Sven over Powell just because Powell shows his emotions and doesn't wear a suit. You say Sven is here for the money but he's not really, he's here because we HAVE money for him to be able to work with. I'm sure if we appointed Sven with little money he would not be doing the job he is doing now and I bet he'd confess that he only came here because we have money, but i don't believe he came here just to get paid.

Last season was great and we all felt a real connection with the players but this season feels no different. I still feel the same about my club now even in a state of transition and I hope to the heavens that we can get promoted next season and return to the promised land especially as I believe Sven would be a better manager in the prem than in the championship and I believe we would be able to survive if we get to the prem, a belief that I didn't fully have if Pearson took us up.

[Brown Fox]

Sven got us closer to the play offs than we could have ever hoped to imagine

This really is utter pants... Sven had tons of games to turn things round, some money with which to do it and the nucleus of a squad that had very nearly made the play-off final only a season before.

In addition, he was asked to do it in a division of very very average teams with relatively few points between top 6 and bottom 3

Lots of teams have maintained the 'winning runs' and made the play-offs when new managers have come in at some point after the season has started. Dowie, for example, with Palace.... Reading only this season

Pants

Reading got McDermott last season I think? So he had a pre-season to work with. You can't say 7 months is enough time to assemble a squad capable of promotion after being bottom of the table. Manager usually have at least 1 or 2 years to get their teams up.

[Guest Col city fan]

Reading got McDermott last season I think? So he had a pre-season to work with. You can't say 7 months is enough time to assemble a squad capable of promotion after being bottom of the table. Manager usually have at least 1 or 2 years to get their teams up.

I agree with you...its just the 'ever hoped to imagine' bit which is crap.... lets all be honest with ourselves for a second... a couple or three months ago this forum was full of 'we're the best team in the division' - most of us are actually surprised, if we're being totally truthful, that we went on the stinky run we did after this... Sven did well to get our hopes us, and then we have felt let down, to some extent, that the great form couldnt continue. I actually thought, upon Sven's appointment, that actually we WOULD make the play-offs, particularly when we started to bring-in some talent. And we fell at the last hurdle really..

[zubi]

I agree with you...its just the 'ever hoped to imagine' bit which is crap.... lets all be honest with ourselves for a second... a couple or three months ago this forum was full of 'we're the best team in the division' - most of us are actually surprised, if we're being totally truthful, that we went on the stinky run we did after this... Sven did well to get our hopes us, and then we have felt let down, to some extent, that the great form couldnt continue. I actually thought, upon Sven's appointment, that actually we WOULD make the play-offs, particularly when we started to bring-in some talent. And we fell at the last hurdle really..

Look I think 99% of fans would agree if we still had sousa we would be bottom half at best. Given the poor run we had at the begining of the season I don't think fans thought we had a chance. But like you said Sven gave us hope, which was the point I was trying to make. We got there! O.k maybe we could have with any other manager. But say Sven took over at the begining of the season, even if we won one more game than we did under Sousa, we would still be in the play off fight.

[Guest Col city fan]

Look I think 99% of fans would agree if we still had sousa we would be bottom half at best. Given the poor run we had at the begining of the season I don't think fans thought we had a chance. But like you said Sven gave us hope, which was the point I was trying to make. We got there! O.k maybe we could have with any other manager. But say Sven took over at the begining of the season, even if we won one more game than we did under Sousa, we would still be in the play off fight.

that makes far more sense, and I agree with you

[Wymsey]

I quite rated Hobbs and I kind of disagree him going to Hull because he could make a good impression during pre-season to change Sven's mind on not selecting him. But if he is going to request to leave, I wouldn't be surprised as Sven may well have someone in mind that is costly but has more ability than him.

[getty5]

Mee was awful in his first match, yet since then has turned in consistent performances at both CB and LB (remember when Hobbs played at right-back? Oh dear). Hobbs played a fair number of games under Sven and didn't look the presence he was before. What was Sven to do? Keep Hobbs' fans happy and continue to play him or look for an improvement?

The reason we "bummed" the new player, namely Yakubu, was that early on he showed class that Fryatt didn't have, the way he bullied defenders, scared them. That hasn't continued to any great level but at the start you could see why the fans preferred Yakubu to Fryatt.

You must remember that when Sven came in those players who did so well last season were a mess, losing games and leaking goals. We still are conceding far too many but Hobbs, Morrison, Berner- would they have done a huge deal better?

Yes Hobbs wasn't fantastic at) but he isn't a right back, he was moved there through injuries. Some players are better in their prefered postion. You can't blame them for not being able to play all over the pitch, weale wouldn't be any good as a striker. It's not his place, same as waggy would be usless in goal. I'm not talking about every position Hobbs has or hasn't played in but can Sven honestly say he's watched Hobbs in HIS position? No, because Sven didn't care whether he was good enough because he came in like a ball in a china shop. If he had played Hobbs in RCB and thought thanks but your not for me then I'd say fair enough. Managers have their faves...But Sven didn't and for me this is bad management. Why spend money you don't need too if you give the players you have the time.

Regarding the tracky comments, I don't care what his wearing either. I mean it in the sense that he showed so much passion and he seemed to get the players going when they were down. Nobody can say NP didn't get our lads going. I do support Sven but I don't like his management skills. Doesn't mean I hate him but it just means I don't connect with him or in my personal opinion think he's right for us. I think our boys would have done better. When Cunningham broke his leg and Bruno came in he was fantastic. Morrison - I wasn't sure off but least he had a bit of passion. Hobbs has taken a lot of rubbish this season. With not playing RBC and playing along side godknows how many different partners. It doesn't take Fergie to see that continuity at the back is the main place you need conversation, communication, leadership and organisation. I do think a big worry is midfield. Most teams cut through it like a knife through butter. We need to back OUR players and forget the loans. We should look to our future and I hoped that was the lads we had last year.

With Sven's money the owners must be questioning why they have spent what they have and not made the play offs.

[Haydos]

Yes Hobbs wasn't fantastic at) but he isn't a right back, he was moved there through injuries. Some players are better in their prefered postion. You can't blame them for not being able to play all over the pitch, weale wouldn't be any good as a striker. It's not his place, same as waggy would be usless in goal. I'm not talking about every position Hobbs has or hasn't played in but can Sven honestly say he's watched Hobbs in HIS position? No, because Sven didn't care whether he was good enough because he came in like a ball in a china shop. If he had played Hobbs in RCB and thought thanks but your not for me then I'd say fair enough. Managers have their faves...But Sven didn't and for me this is bad management. Why spend money you don't need too if you give the players you have the time.

Regarding the tracky comments, I don't care what his wearing either. I mean it in the sense that he showed so much passion and he seemed to get the players going when they were down. Nobody can say NP didn't get our lads going. I do support Sven but I don't like his management skills. Doesn't mean I hate him but it just means I don't connect with him or in my personal opinion think he's right for us. I think our boys would have done better. When Cunningham broke his leg and Bruno came in he was fantastic. Morrison - I wasn't sure off but least he had a bit of passion. Hobbs has taken a lot of rubbish this season. With not playing RBC and playing along side godknows how many different partners. It doesn't take Fergie to see that continuity at the back is the main place you need conversation, communication, leadership and organisation. I do think a big worry is midfield. Most teams cut through it like a knife through butter. We need to back OUR players and forget the loans. We should look to our future and I hoped that was the lads we had last year.

With Sven's money the owners must be questioning why they have spent what they have and not made the play offs.

You do realise Hobbs was on loan first? And Waggy?

It's hard to take some of you lot seriously.

[Leicfox]

NO! Jack Hobbs is a strong centre-back and will only get better.

This, but if true, I don't blame the lad as he just wants to play football. I really can see him going on to be a regular centre-back at National level.

[getty5]

You do realise Hobbs was on loan first? And Waggy?

It's hard to take some of you lot seriously.

Yes of course, Hobbs got in the team through Kisnorbo being injured (or in and out of being injured) waggy got his main chance when Fryatt got injured. They were never rushed into the side.

[Haydos]

Yes of course, Hobbs got in the team through Kisnorbo being injured (or in and out of being injured) waggy got his main chance when Fryatt got injured. They were never rushed into the side.

You said 'forget the loans' and that wasn't your point. For all you know we'll have Mee and Naughts next season and you'll still be saying how we should 'forget loans'.

[irDeano]

We need to back OUR players and forget the loans.

What's your opinion on Ricardo then?

[getty5]

What's your opinion on Ricardo then?

My opinion from what I've seen in a city shirt - not brilliant! Weale's confidence has been shot to bits so no wonder he's been nervous.

And if we signed Mee and he got pushed out for an inexperienced loan player by a manager only interested in his own signing then yes I will be saying it again. It's an area that didn't need a massive shake up. Replace Brown and a right back and job done. There's no doubt Hobbs will do but I hope our fans have abit of dignity and wish him well. Along with Pearson and Fryatt.

[Babylon]

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Brilliant post foxes fan123! I can safely say as I am very close to one of Hobbs' best mates - although I've never met him my friend would know everything and Hobbs HAS NOT handed in a transfer request.

I agree regarding midfield, I think we loose the ball too easily. I said in a post ealier we need a Scott Parker type player. I don't think Sven actually rates any of the Pearson players - yeah King, Gally and Wellens have signed but what's a piece of paper? Contracts mean nothing nowdays. I feel Sven will support and priase his own players that he has deals on and will use any chance to drop or knock the confidence of our play off's squad. Last year, no money! This year I dread to think how much the Thai's have spent and look whose above us.....hull! Maybe Pearson didn't play beautiful football but I want to watch the lads who want to play for us and not here for the money. Maybe we should be praising the lad for what he's done and not slagging him off. DavieG- you don't win Player of the year for being OK!

Sven's done it to most of the lads we loved last year. Waggy, price tag has drogged through being a bench warmer when I'd rather watch him than Yak run around. IF Hobbs goes then good luck to him and let's wait for him to come out and say why he wants to leave if he does instead of starting rumours and running the risk of causing a stir for no reason!

Money has blinded some of you, true fans can see what is in front of them. A toy for the Thai's! Let's hope Sven does cut it. I didn't rate him before and now I'm still not over joyed by the Sven circus. I would rather a tracky manager on NP or Powelly than someone here for the money. I love my club and my boys adore their weekends at the football so I do hope we have something to look forward too next season. I think we've missed Brown more than we'd like to say.

Jesus wept, I'm not even sure where to start.

If Sven didn't rate the players they wouldn't be playing, let alone given long term contracts.

Hull are above us by the odd point. They have spent millions themselves on players and wages, in total I'd say not far from our own if not more. They had a head start on Sven as he wasn't here for pre season or the first ten games.

Can you please prove Sven is here for the money? No thought not. He gets paid a good wage yes, but for good reason.

You think Sven goes out of his way to have a go at any of our team from last year? Get real.

The Thais have so far been good owners as far as most are concerned, love how you think you're a "real fan" for not liking them. I would love to know why you don't like them, suppose you loved MM?

Chris Powell as manager, do me a bloody favour. Supprised you didn't say Walshy because he shows "pashun".

Funny how 99% of those vocally against Sven all seem to have had pre formed opions of him before he came.

[Babylon]

Sven got us closer to the play offs than we could have ever hoped to imagine

This really is utter pants... Sven had tons of games to turn things round, some money with which to do it and the nucleus of a squad that had very nearly made the play-off final only a season before.

In addition, he was asked to do it in a division of very very average teams with relatively few points between top 6 and bottom 3

Lots of teams have maintained the 'winning runs' and made the play-offs when new managers have come in at some point after the season has started. Dowie, for example, with Palace.... Reading only this season

Pants

Reading had their manager in place last season not this and they weren't bottom after 9 games.

Dowie took over Palace when in 19th place and did have an unbelievable run, but that really has been almost a one off in terms of coming from so low, so far into the season.

[Nick]

He was immense last season and there's no doubt he's an excellent defender, but as has been said, he's just not suited to Sven's style of play. He wants players that are comfortable on the ball all over the field and can pass their way out of defence, but Hobbs always looked uneasy and prone to making mistakes when asked to play that way. That's not his fault, by any stretch of the imagination, but if he's not that kind of player, he's not that kind of player, and would be better off playing in a team and for a manager that suit his abilities. Bamba and Mee are vastly superior in this department, so it's not hard to see why Sven saw them as better options (I'd include Vitor in that too, but I don't think he ever took Hobbs' place in the team, as he was injured).

Good luck for the future, Jack, you'll be remembered fondly.

This.

Though it doesn't matter how many times you write it.

The Sven haters do not understand football.

If they can't see a difference in quality on the ball between Sven's team and Pearson's team they may as well go and support Man U with the rest of the 'adopt a team for insecurity' band of 'unknowing, football feral' moomin-fans.

They only understand words and phrases like: Fryatt, Hobbs, Pearson and 'didn't make the playoffs so we're not as good as last year'; player of the season last year; Hobbs didn't get bad at football overnight........ la la la.

Keep trying though Adam - I'm on the verge of giving up.

[Babylon]

Yes Hobbs wasn't fantastic at) but he isn't a right back, he was moved there through injuries. Some players are better in their prefered postion. You can't blame them for not being able to play all over the pitch, weale wouldn't be any good as a striker. It's not his place, same as waggy would be usless in goal. I'm not talking about every position Hobbs has or hasn't played in but can Sven honestly say he's watched Hobbs in HIS position? No, because Sven didn't care whether he was good enough because he came in like a ball in a china shop. If he had played Hobbs in RCB and thought thanks but your not for me then I'd say fair enough. Managers have their faves...But Sven didn't and for me this is bad management. Why spend money you don't need too if you give the players you have the time.

Regarding the tracky comments, I don't care what his wearing either. I mean it in the sense that he showed so much passion and he seemed to get the players going when they were down. Nobody can say NP didn't get our lads going. I do support Sven but I don't like his management skills. Doesn't mean I hate him but it just means I don't connect with him or in my personal opinion think he's right for us. I think our boys would have done better. When Cunningham broke his leg and Bruno came in he was fantastic. Morrison - I wasn't sure off but least he had a bit of passion. Hobbs has taken a lot of rubbish this season. With not playing RBC and playing along side godknows how many different partners. It doesn't take Fergie to see that continuity at the back is the main place you need conversation, communication, leadership and organisation. I do think a big worry is midfield. Most teams cut through it like a knife through butter. We need to back OUR players and forget the loans. We should look to our future and I hoped that was the lads we had last year.

With Sven's money the owners must be questioning why they have spent what they have and not made the play offs.

Did you just compare Hobbs playing at right centre back to Weale playing upfront?

As for Sven not seeing him at RCB, you do realise that he sees them in training every day. Trying players in different positions, with different partners etc. Just because you don't see something on a much day doesn't mean its not been tried.

Seems to me someone only has to show "Passhun" and that's enough for you. Not sure how you measure "passhun" anyway, is it how much someone runs about? How many stupid tackles they put in? How someone celebrates a goal?

[getty5]

Jesus wept, I'm not even sure where to start.

If Sven didn't rate the players they wouldn't be playing, let alone given long term contracts.

Hull are above us by the odd point. They have spent millions themselves on players and wages, in total I'd say not far from our own if not more. They had a head start on Sven as he wasn't here for pre season or the first ten games.

Can you please prove Sven is here for the money? No thought not. He gets paid a good wage yes, but for good reason.

You think Sven goes out of his way to have a go at any of our team from last year? Get real.

The Thais have so far been good owners as far as most are concerned, love how you think you're a "real fan" for not liking them. I would love to know why you don't like them, suppose you loved MM?

Chris Powell as manager, do me a bloody favour. Supprised you didn't say Walshy because he shows "pashun".

Funny how 99% of those vocally against Sven all seem to have had pre formed opions of him before he came.

Like I said before, I think certain people see what they want to see -

Sven is a money man and anyone in their right mind can see it. You don't get an ex England manager going to a club like Notts County for the 'love of the game' as soon as the money wasn't in place he legged it. Yes that situation was slightly different with the 'fake money' thing going on but like I said, do you really think he didn't go there for the money???

I didn't say Chris Powell as full time manager, I said upto the new season and not such a rushed job to get a name in.

It's not that I dislike the Thai's, I couldn't stand MM but I don't think we was as much of a toy in his hands as we are in the Thai's.

Regarding Hull and NP I'm pretty sure he had a massive job on his hands when he took over. The other side of my family are from Hull and most of them thought coming down from the prem with big money earners to get rid off and clear out the egos would really send them to the ground. John didn't think NP was the man for the job but he said to me at the QPR match that he was worried for the state the club was in but somehow NP has managed to add abit of stability. Hobbs and Gerrard look like a very good partnership (Hobbs was outstanding and those who say the lad can't play the ball out didn't see that game. I like Hobbs! I think he is far from the finished player but he's still a few years away from his peak so giving time and the experience I do think he'll go on to be a very good player. He's good now so imagine how he'd be with 300 plus games under his belt. JT and Carra didn't get into the first teams regular until they were 23/24? Anyway, back to Pearson and although I thought we played boring football under Pearson it was achieving results and pushing us on to the direction we want to be in and building solid foundations. I think another season under him and we would be higher up the table.

I hope Sven does a good job, I really do. I love my club but you're never going to get everyone agree and lthough you've said most of us who have been vocal about him had 'pre formed opinions' I have judged him on what he's done here so far. (Apart from the money view) but I think a lot of fans are living on the SGE bum bus because he has bought a new set of media interest and he's ex England manager. IF he's here next year - we don't know what the Thai's are like regarding keeping hold of managers and I hope we don't get through as many as we did under MM it all remains to be seen. Fingers crossed we go up next season but there could be some 'biggish' clubs on their way down so we'll have to wait and see on that one. Sven will have millions for the summer and I'm sure big names will follow, I just hope Sven can build a foundation for us to move on from but I'll be honest, I'm worried if he goes this summer what state our current squads confidence will be in and all the loanee's will return to their parent clubs.

[B52]

It all comes down to what a proffessionell fottball player is.

Do you fight for your place in the team or do you cry like a baby because the manager doesn't pick you as often as before.......

I don't get it........ Hypocracy...... If a player give everything under one manager he's a great player and when he moans under another manager he still is a great player with commitment. It's been written on this forum that a few players are unhappy primarly because they haven't played so much.

Why are they unhappy... They are proffessionals. They can only work harder on rheir flaws and hope it's enough to get back in the team. Sulking players are like children and should be treated like children. It's not like they under paid either. A large paycheck and sulking - I don't get it. Can someone explain that bit for me? It's not like the manager is a useless( ) championship manager either. It's a manager that players like Mancini appreciated and learned a lot from. Sven has worked with an insane amount of stars and have dealt with the same problems with players before. He's probably learnt that it's better to get rid asap.

I think Sousas problem was a few players too. If a few players didn't give it all for the team when playing under Sousa, he didn't have a chance to achieve something. So those players, unhappy, sulking players, are better somewhere else and don't come with - Ohhh, he was so good under Pearson. Uh, why did the same player suck under Sousa/Sven. Waggy played a lot under Sven at the beginning. And when he didn't score - Waggy wasn't in form.

When Yak plays and scores the odd hat-trick he's lazy and produce too little.

Can someone get stats over Waggys starts under Sven and see goals/pass ratio over Yaks stats.. Interesting reading I presume.

Proffessional football player. I know how I would be If I got the same paycheck like them. I would work my socks off on my days off to get a headstart over the other players. Too little fitness training under Sousa. Those players who thought that. Why didn't they train harder besides the normal training. It's not like we don't know how muscles/the body react to training theese days.

[irDeano]

My opinion from what I've seen in a city shirt - not brilliant! Weale's confidence has been shot to bits so no wonder he's been nervous.

Were you one of the ones chanting 'Weale' at him?

[sphericalfox]

It couldn't be simpler:

A.) Hobbs wants 1st team football

B.) Hobbs does not fit the type of CB that Sven would like in his team (ie. one comfortable on the ball)

I watched the last Hull match's highlights and it seemed to me and discussions with my Hull supporting friends that sometimes Hobbs can flap under pressure. Not really conducive to our team that requires less goals shipped than we currently are shipping.

If we got a good fee then all parties will be happy. Hobbs will work under a manager which he felt comfortable with and got confidence from, and we spend the money on some youth players some place from Sven's little black book.

We are definitely going to be replacing Hobbs with an experienced CB this summer. I can feel it in my bones.